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Puddle Jumper
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| Still doing my research on Victory MCs. When I was into BMWs, my local dealership would blowout last year left overs as soon as the new models came in. And the same with Chevys. What about Victory? For guys that have been around Victorys for awhile, is there a certain time that Victory has sales? In AZ there really isn't a non-riding season. Looking at the pricing locally, it looks like all the dealerships just post MSRP, similar to the Harley dealerships. I searched but didn't see many discusions on pricing... and I don't know anyone locally with a Vic, hell, I never see one on the road. My wife and I love the CCT... |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Corporate discounts will be on last years models but Victory has done a very good job of limiting inventory to dealers so you won't see a lot of those bikes. That said, they do exist and now is the time you'll see discount both from corporate and dealer.
You might also check this out:
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/victory-motorcycles/special-...
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Iron Butt
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Tri Cities, WA | Victory runs great deals on older models such as 09-10's and some 2011's. My wife and I just bought her the 2012 CCT and we got the black friday $500 discount along with the 3 year free extended (Red tag sale) warranty for buying during this time Nov-Dec. They also have the $1000 military discount as well on all models. Make sure and read the fine print though. Good luck. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| I see the 3 yr is actually 2 extra years. So what is the $$ value of the 2 extra years?
And if there are not too many corporate discounts, is everyone paying sticker? Are the sticker prices negotiable?
I haven't decidede whether I would trade in my HD RG or sell it. |
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Tourer
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Columbia, SC | I got an 09 at the end of 2010 (december) and all in all (including military discount) it was 5k off of MSRP. Didn't seem too bad to me. Wait for December, get that "Buy before January" money off, sometimes they throw a $500 in accessories as well, and try to catch a 2010 model if you can.
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Desert Hot Springs (Palm Springs area), CA | chipmaker - 2011-11-29 4:34 PM
Still doing my research on Victory MCs. When I was into BMWs, my local dealership would blowout last year left overs as soon as the new models came in. And the same with Chevys. What about Victory? For guys that have been around Victorys for awhile, is there a certain time that Victory has sales? In AZ there really isn't a non-riding season. Looking at the pricing locally, it looks like all the dealerships just post MSRP, similar to the Harley dealerships. I searched but didn't see many discusions on pricing... and I don't know anyone locally with a Vic, hell, I never see one on the road. My wife and I love the CCT...
I too found it difficult to figure out pricing. What I did was combine the factory discount offered at the time ($1000) along with the $1000 "coupon" given if you do a demo ride. I found my bike and started negotiations WITHOUT these discounts figured it. The coupon had a 2 week window and could be used at ANY dealer and applied to the purchase price (or accessories). I was very pleased with the result. A bike that retailed for $26k OTD for $19k. True, it was already 2 years old, but I'm happy it sat on the dealers floor waiting just for me!
I think the dealership really didn't know how to sell these bikes. They had more NOS (New Old Stock) Vics on the floor than I've ever seen. I'm talk'n 2007s and 2008s... even. Kinda sad. They actually were complaining to me about my purchase deal. I had to tell them that it is strictly business and that they should have sold this bike long before I purchased it. They did say that they had just undergone management change and that more bikes were going to be sold. I sure hope so... Holding out for top dollar often means NO dollars as customers in this economy will go elsewhere.
One final thing - for any dealers reading this... Please show interest in us AFTER our purchase. We love our bikes! Have your salespeople step outside and check our bikes out, see what we've done to them; ask where we've ridden, etc. etc. I for one, WANT to give you more business - if you care. Post-sale customer service / care helps retain a customer for future purchases. |
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Tourer
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Akron Ohio area | A brand new current model year Vision should cost you list price minus 10%.
Anything older than the current model year will be discounted, and sometimes DEEPLY discounted.
A large dealership in Arizona or Nevada was selling 2011 Visions in the $15,000 range a few months ago. (list price $23,200)
That should give you an idea of what their markup is.
I got a 2 year Polaris extended warranty and $1,000 in extras thrown in with my purchase.
The only Victory's that might sell at list price or above would be the "Ness" or "LE" (limited edition) bikes. |
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Visionary
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| Your going to have to travel to where the snow is to get a good deal on a vision |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | john frey - 2011-11-30 11:28 AM
Your going to have to travel to where the snow is to get a good deal on a vision
There's a dealer up here in MA that buys Old New Stock (bikes) from around the country by the truckload and sells them deeply discounted. http://www.MomSouth.com |
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Chandler, AZ | Hey Chipmaker,
If you're in the Metro Phoenix area - or willing to ride there - go see Eric at Victory of Mesa. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I bought a brand new 2008 in 2010 for about $ 3000 off MSRP.......... |
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Cruiser
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| As with any purchase, It all comes down to "what you can negotiate". The most I have heard of is around 18.86% off list for a current year model including accessories. The demo rides are a starting point so you can pretty much EXPECT to ALWAYS be able to get AT LEAST $2K off a current year model simply by using that demo ride discount + a typical $1K dealer discount.
Edited by ndabunka 2011-12-04 9:06 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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| Jedi Jeff - 2011-11-30 1:24 PM
There's a dealer up here in MA that buys Old New Stock (bikes) from around the country by the truckload and sells them deeply discounted. http://www.MomSouth.com
Problem with MOM's is they want top dollar and seem to get it. I bought two of my bikes from them. They are good people (Joel the owner is great), just like to start at the high end so you think your getting a great deal when you talk them down a little. I paid just under MSRP for my XC in Nov '09, but then again I was one of the first of a new model delivered to this area, so I expected to pay almost full price. On the other hand, got a BIG discount on my wife's Ness JP as a repeat customer. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | bigfoot - 2011-11-30 11:01 AM
A large dealership in Arizona or Nevada was selling 2011 Visions in the $15,000 range a few months ago. (list price $23,200)
That should give you an idea of what their markup is.
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I would love to see what the end price was on that. $15K is several thousand BELOW cost, and that price has a lot of baggage to carry around |
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Tourer
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| As said before and I agree with kevinx....PROVE it to me, I am from Missouri, A lot of folks blow "smoke up your ass" on great deals at Joe Blow's dealership....99% turn out to be in reality pure B.S......If any dealer was selling brand new 2011 Visions for $15,000 he is just plain stupid or one lousy businessman and want's to go out of business soon....C'mon man...give me a break.......
Edited by opas ride 2011-12-05 2:03 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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East Haven, CT | I purchased my 2011 Vision in July of this year. Cost was 20.5k and I added the 5 year extended warranty for $500. This was shortly before the 2012 release. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| I've been to Mesa victory looking twice, haven't talked to anyone.
Edited by chipmaker 2011-12-05 6:32 PM
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Chesterfield, VA | I bought my 2011 Vision Tour around the end of Aug 2011 for $17,500 from PA. This included the normal $2,500 rebates at the time along with the $1,000 military rebate. The deal was good enough to convince me to upgrade from my 2009. |
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| Just bought a new 2011, Crimson Vision for $15,500 from El Dorado Cyle, in El Dorado Springs, MO. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Huskerjoe - 2011-12-22 6:36 AM
Just bought a new 2011, Crimson Vision for $15,500 from El Dorado Cyle, in El Dorado Springs, MO.
Great Price! Let's see a photo. |
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Tourer
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| Sounds almost to good to be true!!!What was the final out-the-door price????Just Asking as sometimes the real price is much different that what readers see on the board.... |
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Puddle Jumper
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Tyler Texas | A dealer in dallas for a 2011 vision quoted me a price of $21,499 after $2500.00 rebate 5yr warranty $500 gift card +freight,setup,texas inventory tax,inspection,registration and license $22,396.42 is this a reasonable price? also offered 10% off all accesseries. |
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Tourer
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| I'd check with the guy on this board that claims he bought a new 2011 Vision for $15,500 in Missouri...If he, in reality, got it for close to that price you should contact the dealer and buy a bike from them, fly or drive out there and ride or ship the bike home..And still save money...
....Maybe you could get you local dealer to read the post about this issue on this board and negoitiate a better price????? I paid less for my 2011 in May of last year which included S1L1 pipes and 10% off accessories....... |
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Tourer
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Tucson, AZ | You might want to talk to Cochise Motorsports in Sierra Vista. The sales manger's name is Craig. That's where I bought mine and they treat you right. I've sent other people down there, not for a Vision but to buy a Razor, and they beat Tucson big time. Just sayin'. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | i traded in my 08 vision because of the discount(s) i found on a 2011 vision. factory was offering $2500 off list and my dealer gave $1500 off as well. it was coming time to start bringing in 2012 models and they wanted the 2011 models off the floor. |
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| opas ride - 2011-12-22 11:01 AM
Sounds almost to good to be true!!!What was the final out-the-door price????Just Asking as sometimes the real price is much different that what readers see on the board....
Why even Bother getting someone's "out the door" price? That has GOT to be one of the MOST pointless ways of comparing prices. Afterall, everybody has differing "out the door" costs. Some have huge taxes but others have NONE. Some think that "out the door is tax, tag & title while others think it HAS to include "add-ons" like pipes or Stage 1 tuning (which of course is an OPTION & not required by others so OBVIOUSLY is not an "out-the-door" component for 99% of the buying public.
Just comparing BASE negotiated price IS a more logical way to compare what people are paying around the country in differing tax areas... |
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| HA HA HA ndabunka.. that's silly. You must be a dealer cause that's the kind of hokey smokey bull a salesman would say just to get you off topic Out the door price is the real money out of your pocket. Any smart dealer will have a low "base" price to get you in the door, then hit you with freight, pdi, doc, registration, invisible tax, whatever they have. It seems dirty at first, but its what everyone expects from any dealer in any industry so there is no point bichin about it. It's a gimmik and it works on everyone. Even the smoothest negotiators. It gets you in the door, then the extras are added on. SO THE FACT IS the only number that really truly matters is whats out of your pocket in the end. That's the "out the door" price. Negotiating on a base price is just plain stupid. They will either give you a price that makes you happy and you inquire further... or they won't and you'll carry on. If they add all that extra crap in there when quoting you you're "out the door price" then they just won't earn your business because they will be too high.... and if they still do earn your business, then who cares what the price includes. It was a better price than everyone elses. |
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Tourer
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| I realize that all situations are different....I sold bikes for a while when I retired from Ford so I am not ignorant as to what REALLY goes on once you are in the door. BTW if my questions about the final price are so "pointless" as ndabunka suggests...Why have those that I have asked this question never responded??? Personally I do not give a "rats ass" what others pay for there bikes, It is just strange that most who post here raving about a super low price at some dealer never have data to back it up or do not wish too......No offense intended to anyone...... |
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Akron Ohio area | <p>double post</p>
Edited by bigfoot 2012-01-12 8:47 PM
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Akron Ohio area | I'm also a 5 year Ford retiree.
The only price we can compare across all States is the agreed price before taxes, title, etc.
I payed 6.5% sales tax in my county in Ohio, while in another State there may not be any sales tax.
Maybe they have huge title fees or licensing fees.
if I trade in a vehicle, the Out the Door price will of course be less and the taxes will be less.
Some dealers, mine included, will buy unsold stock from failed dealerships.
Polaris gives them great prices to "move" these bikes out. |
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