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Pittsburgh, PA | i was wondering who changes their own tires on here and what tools do you buy? i know the typical tire irons can do the job, but is there anything out there to break the bead and make the tire replacement alot easier.? |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | I change approx 10 sets of tires per year on smaller bikes. The tube tires on those smaller bikes seem easier to dismount and remount. I have not tried the larger tubeless tires on the Vision yet. Though I have a tire changing stand and tire tools, I was afraid I would scar up the rims trying to get the stiff E3's off the Vision. I have to take the wheels to the shop anyway for balancing, so I decided I would let them swap the tires. Takes them 10 minutes and there is no fear of rim scratches with their machine. |
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Central Wisconsin | Arkainzeye - 2011-12-05 10:53 AM i was wondering who changes their own tires on here and what tools do you buy? i know the typical tire irons can do the job, but is there anything out there to break the bead and make the tire replacement alot easier.? I change my own tires with a harbor freight tire changer anchored to the concrete floor, tire spoons , nylon rim protectors , and some old carpeting. If your ready to invest in a tire changer check out this No-Mar. |
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| I ask why? You would have to change at leased 10 tire to brake even I'm guessing. Not to say all the room the equipment takes up in the garuage.
If you screw up and scratch the paint or the chrome now what. If a tire iron pops out is it going to hit the car or the bike or maybe the kid playing in the garage.
My hats off to the guys that do it but if your only going to change one tire a year pull the wheel and go to a aftermarket shop or dealer and let them do it.
By the way you do have a air compressor that can put in a good 75 pounds of air to get the tire to seal. |
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Tourer
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New Orleans, La, | I've changed every tire my 08 VV ever had since the OEMs and that's 3 sets. I bought a machine called the Tire Stripper. They are no longer made and that is a shame because it is really easy and simple to use. It came with tools that don't mar any wheel surface and can be used on cars, light trucks, and motorcycles. Never had an incident with using it yet. Just saying. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | if there was a cheap way to do it i would like too. i mean $100-$200 in tools. my local HD dealer will do it for me, IF i buy the tire from them and schedule an appointment... it would be nice to be able to buy tires from where ever i like and not have to make appointments for replacement. a few times i had to wait until the next week for them to do it. they dont take walk ins... |
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| say harbor freight has tire tool. keep in mind there not the quality that the pros use.
http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?keyword=tire+... |
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| Been riding for 45 years and never paid to have a tire changed. I'm on my 5th back tire and my 4th front on my Vision, all changed on the garage floor with a pair of short m/c tire irons I've had for 25 years and a piece of old carpet. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | http://www.harborfreight.com/bead-breaker-92961.html
http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcycle-bead-breaker-98875.html
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Pittsburgh, PA | savage - 2011-12-05 5:43 PM
Been riding for 45 years and never paid to have a tire changed. I'm on my 5th back tire and my 4th front on my Vision, all changed on the garage floor with a pair of short m/c tire irons I've had for 25 years and a piece of old carpet.
once the new tire is on the wheel is it hard to get the bead set? do you need real high air pressure? can it be done at a gas station air pump? |
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New Orleans, La, | You can seat just about any tyre with 45 psi.. The thing that's most important is the volume that can flow at a specific psi. when seating a tyre. With that being said a tyre can be seated with the average pancake compressor. The biggest problem' aside from the flow rate at a specific psi., you may need to help the tyre to seat by manipulating the tyre about the rim to help close up gaping areas where tyre bead is really far away from the rim seating surface. also remove the valve core and secure an inflation head/chuck that lets air flow without that little push valve device in the centre. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | V92SC - 2011-12-05 6:47 PM
You can seat just about any tyre with 45 psi.. The thing that's most important is the volume that can flow at a specific psi. when seating a tyre. With that being said a tyre can be seated with the average pancake compressor. The biggest problem' aside from the flow rate at a specific psi., you may need to help the tyre to seat by manipulating the tyre about the rim to help close up gaping areas where tyre bead is really far away from the rim seating surface. also remove the valve core and secure an inflation head/chuck that lets air flow without that little push valve device in the centre.
thanks for the heads up. maybe for 2012 i will start installing my own tires and just buy replacements online. (most dealers and shops around here teamed up to NOT install tire bought from the internet) long story.... bascially forcing you to buy tires from them. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | neat Harbor freight video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QciztgPcgVE |
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| "(most dealers and shops around here teamed up to NOT install tire bought from the internet) long story" I wonder if this is something a good Attorney General could sink his/her teeth into. It does smell of price fixing. Release the dogs.... |
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Pittsburgh, PA | RedRider - 2011-12-06 7:16 AM
"(most dealers and shops around here teamed up to NOT install tire bought from the internet) long story" I wonder if this is something a good Attorney General could sink his/her teeth into. It does smell of price fixing. Release the dogs....
they already thought up a plan of action against that.. and heres what it is
the most common thing i hear from dealers and local shops about WHY they will NOT install tires bought from someone else (internet) is......
they can not Guarantee the quailty of the tire you are bringing to them therefor they will Not be held responsible for what "could" happen after they install this tire. they are using excuses like when you buy tires off the internet they could be blems or they could be older and not as safe. basically whatever you can think of they can say it. and i have noticed over the past few years that more and more shops are taking a stand against you buying a tire someplace else and bring it to them.. they use the issue ot SAFETY to protect them from any legal action. they even make it sound like they are doing you a favor by watching out for you... lol meanwhile i never ever had a issue with getting a tire off the internet. |
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| Arkainzeye - 2011-12-06 7:45 AM RedRider - 2011-12-06 7:16 AM "(most dealers and shops around here teamed up to NOT install tire bought from the internet) long story" I wonder if this is something a good Attorney General could sink his/her teeth into. It does smell of price fixing. Release the dogs.... they already thought up a plan of action against that.. and heres what it is the most common thing i hear from dealers and local shops about WHY they will NOT install tires bought from someone else (internet) is...... they can not Guarantee the quailty of the tire you are bringing to them therefor they will Not be held responsible for what "could" happen after they install this tire. they are using excuses like when you buy tires off the internet they could be blems or they could be older and not as safe. basically whatever you can think of they can say it. and i have noticed over the past few years that more and more shops are taking a stand against you buying a tire someplace else and bring it to them.. they use the issue ot SAFETY to protect them from any legal action. they even make it sound like they are doing you a favor by watching out for you... lol meanwhile i never ever had a issue with getting a tire off the internet. If your a dealer and some one walks in with a internet tire you cut the dealer out of a good $50 dollar profit. I can understand they want to pay for there lights and heat and so on. They don't much care your hurting for money like they are and if the shoe was on the other foot you know they would do the same as us. Here most aftermarket store will do the tire and charge a extra $10 for bring it in. I pay cause my fingers are very valuable to me and the amount of time it takes to drive some place visit with guys while the working is getting done is easier for me then chasing the dame tire around on the floor. Hats off to you that change your own tires just not for me. By the way how much do you play to get rid of the old tire? I pay $5 bucks.
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Pittsburgh, PA | I don't pay anything to get rid of my old tires.. |
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New Bohemia, VA | i almost always get my tire off the internet and the dealers I have dealt with has done it off the bike for $35 - $45 and took the old tire. It started when I had my Gold Wing and I took it to the Victory dealer. Hmmmm, now I ride a Victory. But my Victory dealer is closed up and I take it to the Yamy place, but guess what, no Yamy in my future, but they don't know that. Dealers do well if it is worth their while to offer little perks like this regardless where you get the tire. I want to go to changing my own tire, but normally I can get it changed when I make a trip to town, drop the tire off, and then pick it up on the way home. So far, no big deal, but I thought of getting a tire changer and also letting the buds use it if they need to. |
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Who changes their own tires?