Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one
willtill
Posted 2012-01-22 3:10 PM (#105896)
Subject: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
In all of my years or riding motorcycles... I have NEVER used a backrest for myself. Since I've had the Vision last year; I thought that maybe it'll be a nice addition. So I just ordered a Utopia backrest.

I know I've stated before that I was going to make one, rather than purchase it... but after analyzing the time for designing, gathering materials and putting one together from scratch; I'd rather just cough up a little extra money to a company that seems to know what they're doing, and already has designed what I want.

Hope it's comfortable. We'll see....

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cchristo
Posted 2012-01-22 3:18 PM (#105897 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
I used to look at bikes with backrests and just shake my head. Until I got mine last summer!
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ScoreBo
Posted 2012-01-22 3:42 PM (#105900 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Willtill, you won't be disappointed. I had the Utopia version on my 2008 and loved it. When I got my 2011, I just added the Victory version. Not as big, nor as adjustable as the Utopia version.
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SYNSTR
Posted 2012-01-22 3:47 PM (#105901 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
Once you get 'squinched down' in the seat the Utopia will make the miles go much better and in recliner-like comfort. Play with the adjustment angle screw to find what'fits' you.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-22 7:20 PM (#105915 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

Posts: 401
willtill - 2012-01-22 3:10 PM

In all of my years or riding motorcycles... I have NEVER used a backrest for myself. Since I've had the Vision last year; I thought that maybe it'll be a nice addition. So I just ordered a Utopia backrest.

I know I've stated before that I was going to make one, rather than purchase it... but after analyzing the time for designing, gathering materials and putting one together from scratch; I'd rather just cough up a little extra money to a company that seems to know what they're doing, and already has designed what I want.

Hope it's comfortable. We'll see....



You sound like me, and I'm sure you will be as happy as I am with my Utopia.
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mkultra
Posted 2012-01-22 8:57 PM (#105925 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

Posts: 374
Tucson, AZ
On long rides I change the adjustment on mine all the time....great product, great addition.

mike
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JIMBU
Posted 2012-01-22 9:08 PM (#105926 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 8
YOU WILL LOVE IT, IF YOU RIDE SOLO!! INSTALLED MY OWN ON "09"PREM. TOUR
JUST TAKE YOUR TIME ON THE INSTALL.
MY WIFE DOSEN'T CARE FOR IT SHE SAYS "IT CROWDS ME TO MUCH DOWN THERE".
OFFERED HER A COUPLE OF WAYS TO TOUGHEN THINGS UP----BASIC PART OF CONVERSATION
AFTER THAT WAS TAKE A HIKE.
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chesshiretuna
Posted 2012-01-23 7:19 AM (#105946 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

Posts: 390
I always thought the backrests were for older rider with back issues. Now I see it as completing the bike. After all , jet fighters have backs on their seats...
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willtill
Posted 2012-01-23 7:31 AM (#105948 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Thanks for the comments. Am really starting to look forward to installing and trying it.
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2012-01-23 8:21 AM (#105953 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
I was under the impression that the 2o10 and 2011 Visions were back rest ready. Now I'm looking at the back rest online and it is $229.99 but needs a $99.00 mount . Is this true ?

How much is a Utopia Backrest complete and shiped ?

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willtill
Posted 2012-01-23 8:31 AM (#105954 - in reply to #105953)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Trekwolf164 - 2012-01-23 9:21 AM

I was under the impression that the 2o10 and 2011 Visions were back rest ready. Now I'm looking at the back rest online and it is $229.99 but needs a $99.00 mount . Is this true ?

How much is a Utopia Backrest complete and shiped ?



Comes with the bracket:

https://www.utpr.com/vision2010installation.html

I added a bar cover to my order; so subtract $18.00 from the total amount below:


Vision Utopia Driver Backrest $215.00 X 1 = $215.00
(Vis-10FL) (Do You Have A Slit in Your Seat?: YES, I DO HAVE A SLIT IN MY SEAT.)
(BCL) Bar Cover $18.00 X 1 = $18.00
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Product Total $233.00
Shipping (1 Backrest with or w/o Opti) $14.00
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Grand Total $247.00

Edited by willtill 2012-01-23 8:38 AM
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2012-01-23 8:39 AM (#105955 - in reply to #105954)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
willtill - 2012-01-23 8:31 AM

Trekwolf164 - 2012-01-23 9:21 AM

I was under the impression that the 2o10 and 2011 Visions were back rest ready. Now I'm looking at the back rest online and it is $229.99 but needs a $99.00 mount . Is this true ?

How much is a Utopia Backrest complete and shiped ?



Comes with the bracket:

https://www.utpr.com/vision2010installation.html

I added a bar cover to my order; so subtract $18.00 from the total amount below:


Vision Utopia Driver Backrest $215.00 X 1 = $215.00
(Vis-10FL) (Do You Have A Slit in Your Seat?: YES, I DO HAVE A SLIT IN MY SEAT.)
(BCL) Bar Cover $18.00 X 1 = $18.00
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Product Total $233.00
Shipping (1 Backrest with or w/o Opti) $14.00
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Grand Total $247.00





Thanks
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-01-23 12:05 PM (#105971 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Looks like a good video on you tube on how to instal it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9vMaBvs1qo<br />

Edited by john frey 2012-01-23 12:09 PM
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PCNova
Posted 2012-01-31 1:06 PM (#106487 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: (TREK WOLF) RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Cruiser

Posts: 72
Trekwolf,

I just bought an original factory Victory Backrest complete with bracket inlike new condition. Problem for me is thought it would bolt onto stock heated seat on my '08 Vision, wrong. I have to go with a Utopia backrest, so, am willing to sell backrest for what I bought it for $170 plus shipping. It has the Victory embroidered on back plus cool little zipper puch on back for passenger use i.e. cell phone, camera, etc. email if interested pcnova54@yahoo.com.

Peace
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KCVic
Posted 2012-01-31 2:05 PM (#106492 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Cruiser

Posts: 57
Kansas City, MO
Do these remove/attach fairly easy without tools (after the bracket has been installed of course)? And if so, how?
I found something that said the Victory model is easily removable, but couldn't find anything on the Utopia that said if it does.
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BlueByu
Posted 2012-01-31 2:05 PM (#106493 - in reply to #106487)
Subject: RE: (TREK WOLF) RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Cruiser

Posts: 130
Houston, Tx

PCNova - 2012-01-31 1:06 PM Trekwolf, I just bought an original factory Victory Backrest complete with bracket inlike new condition. Problem for me is thought it would bolt onto stock heated seat on my '08 Vision, wrong. I have to go with a Utopia backrest, so, am willing to sell backrest for what I bought it for $170 plus shipping. It has the Victory embroidered on back plus cool little zipper puch on back for passenger use i.e. cell phone, camera, etc. email if interested pcnova54@yahoo.com. Peace

Not sure I understand this correctly that the backrest and bracket wont work for you.  Is that b/c you dont have the "slit" already cut in your seat like the newer seat or is it something to do with the underside and fitment?  I've had my Vic backrest on a few different seat and all worked beautifully.   If it's that you dont have the slit, then Utuopia wont work for ya either...since you need to cut the seat for either to work.   

 

Also, to those thinking Utopia is alot cheaper.....keep in mind that at that price it is locked in there and is NOT a quick disconnect backrest.  That QD mount adds another sum onto your total which puts it somewhere in the $300 range which is similar to the Vic amount.  Still is cheaper by a small margin, but then the only main difference is the size and I like the sleeker look of the Vic unit  (plus I bought mine used and got a helluva deal on it).  Additionally, glad mine is QD as my wife is another of those that says she feels slightly crowded by it.  So, when solo its on and when 2up it is off and stored in saddlebag.  Easy as pie.....



Edited by BlueByu 2012-01-31 2:09 PM
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KCVic
Posted 2012-01-31 2:11 PM (#106494 - in reply to #106493)
Subject: RE: (TREK WOLF) RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Cruiser

Posts: 57
Kansas City, MO
Thanks Michael,
I know you weren't replying to me, but you answered my question perfectly. That was just the info I was after.
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-07 12:37 PM (#107109 - in reply to #106492)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Just received the Utopia backrest. Looks well made and well crafted. Will unstall tonight when I get home. Woot!
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2012-02-07 2:37 PM (#107117 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Fountain Inn, SC United States
willtill - Once you have it installed and in use, consider writing a review for others on the site. Put it in the Review section: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/category-view.asp?catlock=12
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-02-07 2:39 PM (#107118 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i just ordered another Utopia backrest. i gave my last one away with the 2008 vison...8(
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V92SC
Posted 2012-02-07 4:23 PM (#107136 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

Posts: 324
New Orleans, La,
I added a Utopia backrest to my VV a few K mi. ago and wonder to this day how I ever rode without one. Then again I was younger and really didn't do to many 4-900 mile rides so I guess I can really stop wondering. Anyway once you go backrest you can't go BACKrestless.
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-07 7:09 PM (#107145 - in reply to #107117)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Jedi Jeff - 2012-02-07 3:37 PM

willtill - Once you have it installed and in use, consider writing a review for others on the site. Put it in the Review section: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/category-view.asp?catlock=12[/QUOTE...


Will do. It's actually a very simple install, but took I some pictures while I did it. I post something in the next couple of days in that section for it.

Too late for me to try it out but just sitting on the bike; I can tell that my comfort level is going to be elevated by it.

Edited by willtill 2012-02-07 7:10 PM
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radioteacher
Posted 2012-02-08 9:55 AM (#107206 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I will posting more info about the Utopia Backrest in a few days. Stay Tuned.
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Maverick
Posted 2012-02-08 11:18 AM (#107215 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Cruiser

Posts: 154
Cabot Arkansas
I installed the Utopia on my 09 Vision last year based on everyone saying how much more comfortable the ride was.Well after a few 600 mile plus days I can't really tell much difference than without the backrest.I wish I had my money back and a seat without a slit in it : )
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-08 12:00 PM (#107223 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Well... one thing is for sure. It's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to swing a leg over it now; with the Utopia installed. Will have to resort to stepping up on the left floorboards and swinging my foot over (basically stepping into the bike).
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-08 12:00 PM (#107224 - in reply to #105896)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Well... one thing is for sure. It's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to swing a leg over it now; with the Utopia installed. Will have to resort to stepping up on the left floorboards and swinging my foot over (basically stepping into the bike).
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-02-13 6:13 PM (#107661 - in reply to #107224)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
does any one have the link to the post on here where someone figured out how to make a Cheap quick release for the utopia backrest? they used some type of chrome pin with a Loop on the end?
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gilbertma
Posted 2012-02-14 7:46 AM (#107704 - in reply to #107224)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Puddle Jumper

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willtill - 2012-02-08 1:00 PM
Well... one thing is for sure. It's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to swing a leg over it now; with the Utopia installed. Will have to resort to stepping up on the left floorboards and swinging my foot over (basically stepping into the bike).


One thing I just noticed with the Victory backrest that I just put on my 8-Ball (it's incredible- very comfortable), if you have it pulled up so that there is a 1" gap between the seat and pad, you can fold it down to throw your leg over. Then fold it back up as you sit back. Don't know if the Utopia is like that but it probably is. This the first time I've used a backrest and it really makes you feel like you're a part of the bike, more attached so to speak.
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-14 10:36 AM (#107720 - in reply to #107704)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
gilbertma - 2012-02-14 8:46 AM

willtill - 2012-02-08 1:00 PM
Well... one thing is for sure. It's going to be a hell of a lot more difficult to swing a leg over it now; with the Utopia installed. Will have to resort to stepping up on the left floorboards and swinging my foot over (basically stepping into the bike).


One thing I just noticed with the Victory backrest that I just put on my 8-Ball (it's incredible- very comfortable), if you have it pulled up so that there is a 1" gap between the seat and pad, you can fold it down to throw your leg over. Then fold it back up as you sit back. Don't know if the Utopia is like that but it probably is. This the first time I've used a backrest and it really makes you feel like you're a part of the bike, more attached so to speak.


Yes, the Utopia's mechanism has that ability, but I want to keep the backrest as low as possible.... so that it doesn't contact a higher region of my back; I like the support mid to low on my back.

I have resigned myself to stepping on the left passenger footrest with my left foot; and lifting my right foot over the seat and back down. Kind of like stepping up; and into the bike.... rather than swinging a leg way up high and over. Am a little concerned about the momentary strain on the side stand though. I need to practice doing it from the right side of the bike; since there's less strain on the side stand but the bike could start leaning over to the right if not careful....
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willtill
Posted 2012-02-14 10:41 AM (#107721 - in reply to #107661)
Subject: Re: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Visionary

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Arkainzeye - 2012-02-13 7:13 PM

does any one have the link to the post on here where someone figured out how to make a Cheap quick release for the utopia backrest? they used some type of chrome pin with a Loop on the end?


I know of the pin you are talking about. Like a safety pin lock. That is a great idea; it would work for the Utopia, I think Lowes carry's those pins in the specialty hardware cabinets; I must go look sometime later today.

An example:

http://www.amazon.com/Hitch-Pins-Safety-Tension-Lock-HITCH/dp/B000A...

Edited by willtill 2012-02-14 10:41 AM
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samsplace
Posted 2012-02-17 4:16 AM (#107922 - in reply to #105926)
Subject: RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 28
Raleigh NC
JIMBU - 2012-01-22 10:08 PM

YOU WILL LOVE IT, IF YOU RIDE SOLO!! INSTALLED MY OWN ON "09"PREM. TOUR
JUST TAKE YOUR TIME ON THE INSTALL.
MY WIFE DOSEN'T CARE FOR IT SHE SAYS "IT CROWDS ME TO MUCH DOWN THERE".
OFFERED HER A COUPLE OF WAYS TO TOUGHEN THINGS UP----BASIC PART OF CONVERSATION
AFTER THAT WAS TAKE A HIKE.



I have the same problem...... but the utopia that I used just a few times and is sitting on the shelf is a great addition. I have thought about taking the seat of and taking the lip off of the back of the seat, giving her more room. Has anyone tried that?
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-17 6:34 AM (#107930 - in reply to #107922)
Subject: RE: Never used this before... backrest... just ordered one


Tourer

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san antonio, tx
samsplace - 2012-02-17 4:16 AM

I have the same problem...... but the utopia that I used just a few times and is sitting on the shelf is a great addition. I have thought about taking the seat of and taking the lip off of the back of the seat, giving her more room. Has anyone tried that?


I did two things to increase the backseat comfort. Added the footrest extensions and cut the lip off the back of the seat. I still need to remove the backrest when riding two up, but no more complaints from the wife.

The removal was pretty simple, but you have to build it up and extend it further back with good quality foam or else you would end up with a rather large and unattractive gap between the back of the seat and the trunk.

The hardest part is reupholstering the back of the seat. I did it myself, but it would be a good idea to have a professional do it if you're not handy with a sewing machine. I separated the rear upholstery from the front and reused the front half. I used the rear upholstery as a starting point pattern and modified the new material to fit. I don't have any pics of the finished product, but it looks good and you really can't tell until you start really looking.

Here's some pics of the back seat lip removal.



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samsplace
Posted 2012-02-18 3:46 PM (#108040 - in reply to #107930)
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Puddle Jumper

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Raleigh NC
Thanks for the info ccchristo, I may talk to someone later this year who is an upholster and maybe give it a shot..
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