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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Any one use MSD or Accell spark plug wires, need to replace my stock ones, might like a little color...... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I only hear the crickets chirpping ??? |
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Central Maryland | Give it time. It's the weekend. They're be responses soon... I'm interested as well |
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| I really don't think there is a "name" brand bad wire out there.
You want 8mm carbon fiber wires and both the same length.
The only way you will know witch one is the best is plug it into the coil and hold onto the other end and crank the motor. The one that sends you the farthest across the room is giving you the best spark. ( please don't really try this) |
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | The stock wires will provide all the performance and NO PROBLEMS. They are perfect for the bike and the bike is designed to use them. The front and rear cylinder is supposed to have different resistance readings so buying another type that have the same length is not the way to go. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Since the bike has a radio is there any difference between wires? (Noise) |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | The ACCEL and MSD 8 mm wires are used on 8000 HP fuelers and Funny cars with 80 amps of ignition power so should handle the bikes 'weeinie' amps. Since the radio is FM not AM, should have zero effect on reception. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | is there any "advantage" at all to using non-oem plug wires for OUR application? i dont consider the vision to be a high performance engine. when you have 600cc sports bikes making more HP. (not ragging the vision) just saying.. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | The reason I ask is because mine NEED to be replaced, they are very badly corroded after only 14,600 miles and two years of riding. The bike is always garaged, probably spent the night out in the rain maybe twice on a trips. Everybody check both ends, yours could be too.......... |
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Memphis | Conquest Customs is a great Victory vendor and has the Accels. Instantly recognizable. One of the guys here on the forum put them on his bike and liked them (can't remember who it was). Looked cool. http://www.conquestcustoms.com/accel88mmwires.aspx |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | SongFan - 2012-02-05 11:49 AM
Conquest Customs is a great Victory vendor and has the Accels.? Instantly recognizable.? One of the guys here on the forum put them on his bike and liked them (can't remember who it was).? Looked cool. http://www.conquestcustoms.com/accel88mmwires.aspx?
And don't forget the tube of dilectric grease for each end boot, keeps the moisture out and the electricity in |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | YES: I agree PLENTY of dilectric grease !!!!!!!!! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Ok guys: You will either laugh or be pissed on this info. I called my local Victory dealer and asked about replacement spark plug wires, first none in stock, there or on the east coast anywhere. second the cost: $ 55.00 APIECE !!!!!! Are you F***kin kidin me ????? So I went to Noemtz Designs and bought a replacement set of Accell wires for $34.00 total.........Sometimes Polaris's prices are beyond ridicules............ |
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| XRsteve - 2012-02-07 3:26 PM Ok guys: You will either laugh or be pissed on this info. I called my local Victory dealer and asked about replacement spark plug wires, first none in stock, there or on the east coast anywhere. second the cost: $ 55.00 APIECE !!!!!! Are you F***kin kidin me ????? So I went to Noemtz Designs and bought a replacement set of Accell wires for $34.00 total.........Sometimes Polaris's prices are beyond ridicules............ You're dealer sounds like mine, they order everything and at twice the price lol. |
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Princeton, MN | I used Witch Doctor SS braided plug wires,,, clear sheath to see the stainless braiding with a blue underlay... they have worked well and look nice too! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Witch Doctor seems to have good stuff............... |
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | Look at the Victory parts website for spark plug wires, you can get different colors. I think I paid 20-25 dollars a set from my dealer. Do not go to the parts dept and have them look up each wire individually. Everybody can do what they want but I put a set of Magnecore wires and the bike did not run the same even though Magnecore had been great on my Harleys. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Wroman: I wonder why the parts man didn't mention this ?? Ain't that something ?? Either he didn't know or just figured on selling me some $110.00 + TAX wires. Hmmmm.......................I installed the Accell wires for Nometz last night, rode 100 miles this afternoon, all is good......... |
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New Bohemia, VA | I got wires once from my dealer and they sold me the ones for the older Vic bikes. They didn't know there was a difference. I'm still on original wires. Mine is always on the outside and there doesn't seem to be any problems. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | There is something very different between the stock vistory wires and any other I've seen. There is a small slot cut in the end of the wire connector that mates with the enside of the coil, in that slot is a small D-ring, it helps to connect to the male style coil connection point........ |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | varyder: I also got a replacement set of wires from Victory, the red ones with black boots they were about $35.00 for the set, they do have the small D-Ring female connectors and they snap right on. The Aceel wires worked fine too, but just for everybodys info wanted to tell about the "custom" replacement wires from Victory........... |
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| wroman - 2012-02-08 12:43 PM Look at the Victory parts website for spark plug wires, you can get different colors. I think I paid 20-25 dollars a set from my dealer. Do not go to the parts dept and have them look up each wire individually. Everybody can do what they want but I put a set of Magnecore wires and the bike did not run the same even though Magnecore had been great on my Harleys. I saw those on the Factory parts list a while back & was thinking of ordering a set (09 needs blue) I wrote the number down 2876145 at $29.99. Do you have the number that you ordered & got. Also were they of equal length. I read some place that one is longer (#1) by design for some reason.. |
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Moravia, IA | In the Victory Performance catalog they have colored wires for the Vision.....$30.....plug and play and no worries cause they are a true Victory part.
Ive got the red ones on my bike....they do what they are supposed to. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I bought a set ( red ) of these also, they have been on for around 10,000 miles and work perfect...... |
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| Just read this thread, and looked for a while on line.
If you search for Victory / Polaris parts, you'll find the original equipment wires (4012733, 4012746) at $45 - $55 EACH.
If you search for Victory / Polaris accessories, you'll find the colored wires (2876145) in Yellow (-053), Blue 9-027), or Red (-015) for under $30 a PAIR!
What is Polaris thinking?
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| I bought a set from Witchdoctor, they work and fit great. |
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South Carolina | http://www.magnecor.com/
Reputed to be the best made. They make custom sets. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | To be fair the red wires I got from the Victory on line catalouge have been on for a year and 13,000 miles. No problems and they still look great, no fading of the red color............ |
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| biermark - 2013-01-29 8:28 PM http://www.magnecor.com/ Reputed to be the best made. They make custom sets. _________________________________________________________________________________ What mite be the cost of a set from them? |
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South Carolina | Prices vary depending on what you order - they have sets but you can also custom pick each type of end, the conductor, the length etc. I used a set on an S&S 124 - very nice wires, high silicone content, thick, well made boots. I think I paid $35 and had them in a few days. |
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Charleston, SC United States | I did the Accell replacement plug wires from Noemtz Designs as an attempt to lessen static in the AM radio. Yellow wires with red tips for $34. Took minutes to install and working great, and even reduced the radio static about 60%. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | my dealer just quoted me $60 EACH ... that is insane.. and i will tell you this. witch doctors website is WRONG.. their wires dont fit.. at least not the ones i bought.... ( TRK-08-RD) IM TALKING NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FITTING....... |
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Central Maryland | Arkainzeye - 2014-06-16 6:38 PM
my dealer just quoted me $60 EACH ... that is insane.. and i will tell you this. witch doctors website is WRONG.. their wires dont fit.. at least not the ones i bought.... ( TRK-08-RD) IM TALKING NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FITTING.......
Give him a call. He'll make it right. I called him up once and he called me a dickhead (seriously... he does lack customer skills); but eventually what we were quibbling about worked out.
So no hard feelings here... I have ordered stuff from him since.
Edited by willtill 2014-06-16 6:30 PM
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Pittsburgh, PA | willtill - 2014-06-16 6:30 PM
Arkainzeye - 2014-06-16 6:38 PM
my dealer just quoted me $60 EACH ... that is insane.. and i will tell you this. witch doctors website is WRONG.. their wires dont fit.. at least not the ones i bought.... ( TRK-08-RD) IM TALKING NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FITTING.......
Give him a call. He'll make it right. I called him up once and he called me a dickhead (seriously... he does lack customer skills); but eventually what we were quibbling about worked out.
So no hard feelings here... I have ordered stuff from him since.
thanks.. i bought them off of another vendor that sold his product. so im going to return them.. and actually Will i have to thank you ... because on my other thread about them being too short, i mentioned to you that i made my own many years ago.. well i looked in to it and i THINK i can repair these. on each wire the boot/ end , is what broke.. well they sell those in auto part stores... i ve been down 1 week.. i want NO more down time... =)
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New Bohemia, VA | oh, are we suppose to replace the wires? I have the originals still. |
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Central Maryland | Just for the coolness factor varyder. I must say though... I did also replace my spark plugs; along with the new wires... and it did idle better. I'm -NOT- kidding.
Edited by willtill 2014-06-17 6:36 PM
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New Bohemia, VA | Yeah, they're long overdue... |
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Pittsburgh, PA | i wonder how important these specs are..... in regards to replacement wires??
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| Does anyone know why the different OHM's on 2010's verses the 2009's, My 2009 front wire went bad with a 9000 ohm reading? My which doctors wires are in the 450 ohm area. |
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| Looking at that page of Arkainzeye
it says spark plug gap 32 my owners book says 36
wounder witch one is right
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Pittsburgh, PA | http://www.onedirt.com/tech-stories/efi-electronics/getting-wired-s... |
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SE, FL | XRsteve - 2012-02-05 12:52 PM
The reason I ask is because mine NEED to be replaced, they are very badly corroded after only 14,600 miles and two years of riding. The bike is always garaged, probably spent the night out in the rain maybe twice on a trips. Everybody check both ends, yours could be too..........
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As someone searching for a new vision, the above concerns me. Most everyone who has a Vision, and a Victory in General, seems happy with their bike. I know forums are hit or miss, but........
Seems like at 15k miles, wires shouldn't be corroded, or even need to be replaced.
So am I over concerned?
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Pittsburgh, PA | well, i ended up making my own after failed attempts of purchase plug wires labeled for the victory vision... I purchase Ford wires. cut them shorter and installed the victory end cap (the part that goes on the actual spark plug) I was able to purchase 6 ford spart plug wires for $30.. they are the same if not thicker than Victory wires. ... and i dont know if my wires were "bad" for a long time or not.. but when i installed these home made wires.. WOW .. this is the way my bike should have been..... now i have 4 extra wires that i am going to purchase end caps for from NGK and make a few more sets of vision wires... might have a back up set.. just because i dont want to waste the rest of the wires... |
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| Had a semiliar experience. Thought I had a bad plug wire. So I tried and old Horizon plug wire I had in the garage, & wow. So I put in a second one.
"Arkainzeye" how did you put that end on? Open it with brute force & then crimp on as best you could or do you have a crimper?
I tried to get that Vic end cap (plug end) off but had to split the boot to get it off and the boot part is what I wanted to reuse. What type of center wire did the ford wire have?
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| Arkainzeye - 2014-06-17 11:14 PM i wonder how important these specs are..... in regards to replacement wires?? This is a nagging question for me. 2009 plugwires Ohms reading differ from 2010 Ohms reading. They use the same coil. the parts book shows the same part number for the wires on o9's & 10's. Why the differnt Ohms spec's ? Does it make a difference as to which one you use on an 09 ? |
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| To think Polaris/Victory buys 50 thousand plug wires a year if not more and has the nerve to sell them to us for $60 bucks each.
I look at witchdoctor plug wires and don't understand why one is short and one is long in length. I though you want the same length so the spark travels the same length with the same amount of power. |
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