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| This past weekend, my five month old Vision went out from under me on a sweeping curve while I was riding with an organized motorcycle tour in northern California. The bike didn't slip out from under me, and I had very good control on this relatively easy curve. Rather, the bike seem to drop straight down and then begin to slide on the metal side protectors before careening down a ninety food embankment on the right side of the road My own injuries were limited to bruised knees; but my beautiful Vision was totally destroyed. The bike flew through the air without hitting any trees or rocks, and ultimately crashed into some brush. When my riding companions and I got the bike, the front axle was completely sheared at the point were it met the left front fork. My concern is that the front axle may be structurally defective. Have any other Vision riders or dealers know of any such problems with the front axle.? Trust that I'm enormously thankful to have survived my first motorcycle accident in over thirty years of riding. I just don't want anyone else to have the same bad experience. |
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Under the Rule of Jedi - Masshole | Bummer of a first post.
Glad you are ok. Steel and plastic can be replaced, flesh can't. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Jack, very glad hear you came away with just bruises. This is the first we've heard of a defective axle. Is it your belief that the axle gave way and caused the accident? If so, that may be hard to prove. Not questioning your account, just looking at it from an insurance adjuster's POV. Noticed your email has "lawyer" in it, are you a litigator? You'd know better about the legalities involved in things like that.
Again, happy to hear you are ok.
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LaPorte,Tx. | Calflawguy - 2008-05-27 7:13 PM
This past weekend, my five month old Vision went out from under me on a sweeping curve while I was riding with an organized motorcycle tour in northern California. The bike didn't slip out from under me, and I had very good control on this relatively easy curve. Rather, the bike seem to drop straight down and then begin to slide on the metal side protectors before careening down a ninety food embankment on the right side of the road My own injuries were limited to bruised knees; but my beautiful Vision was totally destroyed. The bike flew through the air without hitting any trees or rocks, and ultimately crashed into some brush. When my riding companions and I got the bike, the front axle was completely sheared at the point were it met the left front fork. My concern is that the front axle may be structurally defective. Have any other Vision riders or dealers know of any such problems with the front axle.? Trust that I'm enormously thankful to have survived my first motorcycle accident in over thirty years of riding. I just don't want anyone else to have the same bad experience.
Glad your ok, how about posting some pictures of the bike and front axle. |
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Park City, Utah | First thing... glad you walked away. The difference between it happening in that spot or one that could have proved fatal is luck and devine intervention. Consider yourself blessed.
That said, may I ask... How many miles? has the front wheel been off for any reason like a new tire? any indicator just prior to it dropping like a front end shake or fast wobble?
forget that bike, and take care of your knee. Sounds like another good story of being properly attired and walking away. Sorry for your accident but happy for the outcome.
Rock
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Iron Butt
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Western WA | Wow.
Glad you came out relatively unscathed, but I'm sorry to hear about your Vision.
I'll be anxious to see your answers to Rock Star's questions. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Glad to hear you are okay. |
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| The important thing is that you are okay.
Please keep us updated on what you find may have caused the accident. |
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Central Florida | Glad to hear you are OK! Metal and plastic can be replaced!
Get well soon and get back up on the horse ASAP! |
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Opelika, AL | Glad you came out alright... Sucks that this was your first post subject... Get another Vision and ride it like you stole it...  |
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SE Florida | Glad to hear you are OK but it might be worth finding an NDE outfit to analyze how that axle broke. By testing the fracture site they should be able to tell what caused it to break. |
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Under the Rule of Jedi - Masshole | Lets try this again...
Hope this guy faired better than you did!
Wonder if his new ride will be a Vision |
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rhode island | Ya gotta know your limits, I believe fergy was bragging on how far over he could take her.
these are great drivers ed. pic's. This is also a good lesson on what you should'nt do
on a harley. 
Edited by sandman 2008-05-28 12:24 PM
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Western WA | I've seen those before but they still make me cringe. Ouch. |
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Under the Rule of Jedi - Masshole | I would love to see pics 4, 5, and 6! |
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Victoria, BC | oooh! I hate to imagine how much road rash he incurred. 
Painful! Painful!
Reg |
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Carrollton, TX | I saw a video of this crash about a year ago and after he falls off the bike stands back up and goes straight until it hits the ditch and finally crashes. |
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Frisco, TX | Calflawguy - 2008-05-27 7:13 PM This past weekend, my five month old Vision went out from under me on a sweeping curve while I was riding with an organized motorcycle tour in northern California. The bike didn't slip out from under me, and I had very good control on this relatively easy curve. Rather, the bike seem to drop straight down and then begin to slide on the metal side protectors before careening down a ninety food embankment on the right side of the road My own injuries were limited to bruised knees; but my beautiful Vision was totally destroyed. The bike flew through the air without hitting any trees or rocks, and ultimately crashed into some brush. When my riding companions and I got the bike, the front axle was completely sheared at the point were it met the left front fork. My concern is that the front axle may be structurally defective. Have any other Vision riders or dealers know of any such problems with the front axle.? Trust that I’m enormously thankful to have survived my first motorcycle accident in over thirty years of riding. I just don’t want anyone else to have the same bad experience. I'm glad you're ok. It sounds like a mechanical problem for sure. Let us know what you find out. I didn't know something like this would be possible. |
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Frisco, TX | sandman - 2008-05-28 11:23 AM Ya gotta know your limits, I believe fergy was bragging on how far over he could take her. these are great drivers ed. pic's. This is also a good lesson on what you should'nt do on a harley. "Bragging" is a bit strong but I'll accept that. It was really more of a shock factor for me than bragging since this thing has so much lean angle and then I was excited that it handles the turns better than any other bike I've ridden. |
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rhode island | Just playin fergy
anybody that scrapes a vision regularly has a right to bragg.
I did witness a couple of harley riders go a little to fast around a very tight off ramp, one made it the other didn't.
when i came around the corner one guy was sitting spread eagle in the middle of the road, His bike no where to be seen.
They were traveling about 80mph when they passed me, then went into a decreasing radious off ramp.
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Frisco, TX | sandman - 2008-05-28 5:58 PM Just playin fergy anybody that scrapes a vision regularly has a right to bragg. Yep, I know. I did witness a couple of harley riders go a little to fast around a very tight off ramp, one made it the other didn't. when i came around the corner one guy was sitting spread eagle in the middle of the road, His bike no where to be seen. They were traveling about 80mph when they passed me, then went into a decreasing radious off ramp. I've seen many accidents like that. Understanding how to turn the bike is second only to understanding how to stop it and yet so many riders don't understand either. |
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Opelika, AL | HD Guy was already in trouble in the first pic... |
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| Yes. I realize that I'm very lucky. Yes, too, I am a lawyer. I don't have any idea of suing anybody, I just wanted to make sure that, if there is a design flaw, noone else is injured. Thanks for your reply. |
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| You bet! I'm VERY lucky. No, wheel was never off. Bike had 4,600 miles. No pre-warning, it just seemed to drop straight down vertically. |
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| Here are some pictures of the crashed bike
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CALGARY ALBERTA | Yes, we all waiting with our breathe held to see your pictures. I'm not very religious but we can see from here that it must have been great to have God as a passenger.
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, FL United States | Glad to see you walk away. Sorry to hear about your bike. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Calflawguy - 2008-05-28 9:48 PM Here are some pictures of the crashed bike Calfawguy, I'm not seeing any pics. Keep us posted on the investigation. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | Question, how did the bike just drop? Did you hit some oil? Where you trying to be cool and wave at the camera like the bonehead on the hog? (the Vision is cool, no need to point to the camera) I'm thinking there might be a bit more to how it all happened than what your telling us. As for the axle, I think a 800 and some odd pound bike, falling 90 feet off a cliff, might put a bit of strain on the best of metal, ya think? Like most, I'm glad your fine, but could you tell us the real reason it side flopped on you? |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | Do you happen to know Pollolittle? I was wondering, how many years riding experience do you have? |
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Brighton, TN | Be-Yatch, You must be back and in good caffeinated spirits. You take one safety course from the back of some ladies pickup truck and I call myself a seasoned rider. Hey, at least I manned up on the real reasons my bike (not me) has issues! It's me, not You, really Honey! |
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| Calflawguy - 2008-05-28 8:25 PM
No pre-warning, it just seemed to drop straight down vertically.
Oh. I guess it wasn`t a banana peel then. Glad you`re ok. Were you wearing gear? |
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Crashed Vision