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Fountain Inn, SC United States | As shown from the Dealer Show in Vegas, here's Lloydz custom build that he's been secretly working on for the last couple months. It utilizes a Procharger. Kits will be available only through Lloydz.
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Tourer
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Albuquerque, NM | Is the Procharger kit comprised of his new air filter and adjustable intake? I'd like to see the dyno sheets on this combo both before and after a cam upgrade! |
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Visionary
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| Sweet!!!
Hold on we are going to PLAID............... |
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seattle, wa | More pics! |
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Tourer
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| Wonder what the cover on the saddle bag is. I saw another picture with out the cover yesterday. Could not tell what was in the hole. |
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Iron Butt
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| From the picture the Procharger looks to be a supercharger add on! Look at the cam shaft cover by the brake pedal, it has been modified and extended forward of the engine to something that crosses in front of the engine. The only thing I can think of that would be driven off of the crank or camshaft is a supercharger. Just my thoughts though, I could be wrong!
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Grand Cane, LA | Procharger is a centrifugal supercharger. I had one on an '09 Ford F-150. They are bad a**! Their kits are simple to assemble and they can be custom tuned. I still have the kit; just couldn't let it go with the truck for nothing. I would love to know what kind of numbers this bike puts out. |
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Iron Butt
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Broken Arrow, OK | not sure about power numbers but those are some big azzzzz logos on the back of the clothes you can see in the pic. |
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Iron Butt
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| Travelin Man - 2012-08-01 8:00 PM From the picture the Procharger looks to be a supercharger add on! Look at the cam shaft cover by the brake pedal, it has been modified and extended forward of the engine to something that crosses in front of the engine. The only thing I can think of that would be driven off of the crank or camshaft is a supercharger. Just my thoughts though, I could be wrong! Definately driving something. Curious about the numbers. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Pro chargers work the same way on Harleys, except their drive is on the primary side of the bike. They can make 50 more HP....... |
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Iron Butt
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| XRsteve - 2012-08-02 6:44 AM Pro chargers work the same way on Harleys, except their drive is on the primary side of the bike. They can make 50 more HP....... Any idea what they cost? |
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Iron Butt
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| chesshiretuna - 2012-08-01 7:25 PM
Wonder what the cover on the saddle bag is. I saw another picture with out the cover yesterday. Could not tell what was in the hole.
My guess is speakers and/or subwoofers !!! Just like they do on HD bagger sound systems..... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Cost, you'll have to call I guess, just went to sight and they didn't list prices..........Just look up ProChargers on net....... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Maybe Lloyd can tell you price and HP numbers......... |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Picture of the intake side
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New Bohemia, VA | ...she was a fast machine, she kept her motor clean...she's sweet. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | picture of bag lid ans speaker
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Cruiser
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| Just to clear things up alittle here, These are NOT ProCharger kits. They are Lloydz kit using a proven ProCharger unit. ProCharger made its way on the bike for the support they gave me during the build.
I have to go through the materials and cost and come up with pricing yet which I will than add to our web site upon completion. Even though the first unit was built for a XC bike the Kit will be different, with an easier install. The first kits to be realeased will probalbley be the Vision as we need to come up with a vendor/Manufacture of some of the XC components. The build shown was built around 12-14psi of boost but the street kits will be a 6-8 psi kit with potential to go higher.
Because the bike was finished on its deadline we didnt have sufficant time to make street numbers, this bike WILL be on display at the AVR and we will continue to update as time goes by. I expect the Vison kits to be available in 4 months and entire kits for all models by Spring 2013.
This project was a MAJOR undertaking and huge cost. As ussual the more interest we receive from people on buying kits the harder I can kick everyone in the ass to get them done as soon as possible. Pricing should be comparable to the current offering from ProCharger on THEIR Harley kits. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Colorado Springs, CO | Thanks Lloyd, good info... |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | So, Lloyd, when I was at your shop a few months ago, you told me if I liked the big bore kit, that I would love what you were about to release. I will be refreshing your page for the next 6 months now!
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Tourer
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Albuquerque, NM | Bet those are HMD's saddlebag speaker lids.
Edited by nailer 2012-08-02 1:52 PM
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Another photo of Lloydz build...
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thanks LLoyd, satisfied with your cams and 115HP FOR NOW, But that supercharger does look really nice............Hmmm ??? Can the lockup clutch handle 180 HP ???? |
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Iron Butt
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| So about 5k Lloyd? Plus a new clutch or will the kit include a clutch? I'm going to install your cams when you get some in and think about the blower.
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Green Bay, WI United States | I cannot imagine havin a SC on my Vision. I already kick ass around here with my throttle roll on's. With this I can see lifting the front tire at 70 with nothing more than a downshift. I guess I am getting old but I do not need anymore HP even two up. Might need this if I decide to do Bonneville Flats....
But Lloydz products kick butt, only used the exhaust gaskest and the fuel controller on my 03 but they both kick butt in my book..... |
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | Ok.....I ride with several HDs with Pro Chargers and some with built motors that are charged. Couple of them are over 200hp and one pushing 225. One of my best friends is one of the top 3 sellers/installers of Pro Charger units in the U.S. He told me a few months ago that Pro Charger is working with someone and it "won't be long and we will be able to charge your Vision". I knew it was Lloydz....who else could it possibly be?? But anyways he ran the math and came up with some numbers that he thinks should be "fairly accurate" and he shows that a charged non-cammed Vision should be at 130/132hp and a cammed Vision should be at 149/152hp. This is without head work or high compression pistons. The stock clutch can probably handle the additional HP. Heck, it handles a 116 kit with no issue. Few of the benefits of a Pro Charger setup is that they are durable as hell. Have a decent warranty. Are a bit easy to install. But the best thing is that it can removed when you sell the bike and installed on your next bike. Ain't like internal motor work where you sink the money and eventually watch it go away. I hope Lloydz setup has these same benefits.
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Green Bay, WI United States | Just returned home from a 4 hr tour with me and the Lady on Twister. We like to be at more than speed when merging and both commented that the Vision is fast and powerful. I told her about the Pro Charger along with internal mods and we agreed that for two up I have plenty of power. Now, put me on a souped up Vision with this kit and I would be in trouble with the law. Just sayin....
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Memphis | I talked to a Victory engineer at the AVR a couple of years ago and he said that the stock Vision drivetrain and lower end of the motor (crank/rods) were engineered to handle up to 150 hp. |
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Cabot Arkansas | "Ok.....I ride with several HDs with Pro Chargers and some with built motors that are charged. Couple of them are over 200hp and one pushing 225. "
Wow those are some awesome numbers.How many thousands does it cost to get that kinda of power out of a harley motor as it must certainly require extensive work and all new internals. |
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Iron Butt
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| Maverick - 2012-08-03 4:52 PM "Ok.....I ride with several HDs with Pro Chargers and some with built motors that are charged. Couple of them are over 200hp and one pushing 225. " Wow those are some awesome numbers.How many thousands does it cost to get that kinda of power out of a harley motor as it must certainly require extensive work and all new internals.[/QUOTE ?The question is why. I've ridden with a few HD's with close to to those numbers and the reliability was terrible. |
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Lansing, MI |
DROOL, DROOL..................
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Stock Vision clutch is a gonner at 120FtLb |
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Chattanooga, TN | This is awesome! I do have one question though. When I had cams installed, I was told it would not invalidate the engine warranty. I doubted this, but to heck with it, I wanted MO POWER! Does anybody know for sure if this (or the cams for that matter) will invalidate the factory warranty or extended warranty on the powertrain? |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | baadawg - 2012-08-08 5:13 PM
This is awesome! I do have one question though. When I had cams installed, I was told it would not invalidate the engine warranty. I doubted this, but to heck with it, I wanted MO POWER! Does anybody know for sure if this (or the cams for that matter) will invalidate the factory warranty or extended warranty on the powertrain?
If you get caught it will violate your factory warranty on powertrain, and it will violate the entire extended.....If you get caught |
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Iron Butt
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| just visited the pro charger website. I see a where they are bragging about 2 Harley bikes boosted up to 147 and 139 HP respectively and are proud that the bikes have reached 30k miles.....NO THANKS. if 30k is such a big deal, no thanks. I like to ride too much |
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Lansing, MI |
That's on an HD, not a Vic.... |
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Troy, NY | It will avoid the warranty is they can see it. Most likely they would see the VFC III and void the warranty that way. The price we pay for more HP & Torque  |
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n__bvVs2jBE
Here is a little more detail on the bike, like the feedback guys! |
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Cruiser
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| LLoyd,
Just sent you a PM. I would like to be on the list for your Vision Supercharger kit.
Can't wait to see it when it comes out! |
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Visionary
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| Can you imagine the gross of tires you would use every year.
I use to run nitrous on a couple bikes and every one wanted to race. It was to the point if you didn"t put up a hundred dollar bill I would even push the button |
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Lansing, MI |
No crap, I only got about 5200 out of my last one...
It would be worth it though!!!
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Iron Butt
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| +1 .........Hmmm ??? Can the lockup clutch handle 180 HP ???? Can the clutch and power train handle this much power? Also, any Dyno Charts to post ???
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Cruiser
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| Just want to give you guys an update on the supercharger kits. These are going to happen! They are wicked cool, They look awsome and finacially I have WAY to much time money and effert wrapped up in the project not to sell kits. BUT they need to be right! We are currently working on making them an easier install and ironing out some small issues. Overall I am very pleased and I wont release any numbers yet and why should I? You sum bitches know its gonna thump if its got my name on it, just smoke a doobie and chill alittle with a cold can in hand and those numbers will be displayed soon enough. |
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Lansing, MI |
TEASE!!! Looking forward to it Lloyd!
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Cruiser
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| No shit!! Tease indeed.
I cant wait to see what the numbers are. We already know the kit will be top notch.
I am looking forward to this winter project indeed. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I like it !!!!! Sounds like a winner............. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Lloyd,
Add me to the pro charger list for the Vision.
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Cruiser
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New York | Patiently awaiting your numbers Lloyd and yes, I'm highly interested in a possible trip to Pine Bush for an installation! |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Numbers YES: HP, TQ and $$$$...........I know it'll be good Lloyd. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Taylorsville, KY | Expect these to cost around $5,000+ based on the price of procharger kits for HD's |
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Iron Butt
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| fnvision - 2012-09-09 7:12 AM Expect these to cost around $5,000+ based on the price of procharger kits for HD's I was thinking the same thing. Not something I would do but for those that want it, go for it. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | $5000.00 would be allright for 150+ HP and the coolness factor also.....Can't wait to see how it looks on a Vision. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Any Info ?? Maybe october ?? |
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Iron Butt
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| Has this Lloydz/ProCharger project been dropped ???
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Cruiser
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Barrington, NH | Nope...
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Manchester, CT | Nice!!! Will this setup be offered through Lloydz at some point in time? If yes, when? |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | With cams and 6400rpm I think I smell 165 HP on a lightly worked 106. Now what kind of clutch do we need ????? 
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Barrington, NH | I took that pic out at the AVR about a month ago... |
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Iron Butt
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It will be interesting what combinations are feasible (e.g. Touring Cams and ProCharger) ...
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Barrington, NH | Yes, very interesting! |
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Barrington, NH | you can't see it in the pic but it does say up to 185hp+ on the top of that chart, I woukld assume that is on one with a 116" kit and the procharger, but I could be wrong... |
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Visionary
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| Rylan at the Vic shop just got a pro charger from Lloydz hes looking for small horse power 150 not the 190 that Lloydz is doing |
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