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Nebraska | The Vision as we know it is headed to the gave yard. I heard it enough times I figured it was worth conversation. If so I'll be forced to ride my money out of it. Throw a cover over it And move on to another brand. That will make a TC and two Visions ive owned that are bastard step children |
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| The Vision as we know it. What does that mean? With the radical styling, ect?
Victory spent a lot of time, money, an effort coming up with a fixed fairing luxury touring bike, and the Vision is the best selling victory second to the cross bikes, I find it very hard to believe that the mothership is going to walk away from fixed fairing luxury touring market.
So the Vision as we know it may be reaching the end of its production life but Victory is likely working on the next fixed fairing touring bike.
Its going to be hard to beat the Vision, it is hands down the most comfortable best handling Victory and touring bike available. We already know the "next" vision is going to have more storage space, I just hope they keep the ergos and handling consistent with current bike. |
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, MO | They won't get rid of it yet, and even if they do they will still make parts or there is plenty of vendors. Such anger.. Someone needs a 1000 mile ride lol |
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Nebraska | Not sure I believe it either. Funny tho. The latest Vic rag covers all bikes except the Vision. No pic no nothin. One page says a bagger for everyone...Vision delete. |
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New Bohemia, VA | a Vision delete makes mine a Vision elite! |
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Jasper, MO | maddog - 2012-08-20 10:32 AM
Not sure I believe it either. Funny tho. The latest Vic rag covers all bikes except the Vision. No pic no nothin. One page says a bagger for everyone...Vision delete.
That particular issue covered the Victory BAGGERS. The Vision and the Cross Country Tour are luxury tourers--different category. Besides, there are two pictures of a Vision in that issue. Go look at it again.
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | I'm thinking that the Vision will be the first Victory to live into a second generation since the original C bikes |
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New Bohemia, VA | kevinx - 2012-08-20 3:40 PM I'm thinking that the Vision will be the first Victory to live into a second generation since the original C bikes Are you enVISIONing a Vision II, detactable butt (saddle) bags and solo seat...with tassles? |
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| I don't see why you would think the vision is going away. Sure there pushing the cross bikes but why not there selling like hot cakes and are a big competitor the the touring world.
Every one that tours knows that a fixed fairing bike goes down the road better with less chances of incidents.
The vision will be here for some time to come. You never fix what is not broke and the vision is not broke |
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Nebraska | So Hollywood,
Are you saying 2nd generation = kiss of death ?? |
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Iron Butt
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| I certainly hope it stays around, I would like to see a second generation. |
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Phenix City AL. | hmmmm, the word I got from a bird, when I asked if the next years vision (2014) is already complete, the answer was , yes he is two years out on his paint and designe. for the vision. |
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Iron Butt
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| In all seriousness and honesty, what I see happening with the Vision is an update that will for the lack of a better description combine the rear half of the Cross Country Tour with the current front half of the Vision albeit with some styling changes to keep the bikes looking different from the rear. Victory does tend to listen to what their customers desire and one of the biggest complaints, perhaps the only real one, is the storage capacity of the Vision's saddlebags. If you think of how the Vision and Cross bikes are designed, it shouldn't be too hard to do what I just described, especially since both bikes consist of what is essentially a two piece aluminum frame. People love the cockpit and front end of the Vision in general so I would not expect to see any major changes to that area soon. Then again, you can never tell what influence the bean counters at corporate come up with for a cost analysis! |
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Danville, CA | Shouldn't happen.. Best touring bike on the market bar none... |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | maddog - 2012-08-20 4:12 PM
So Hollywood,
Are you saying 2nd generation = kiss of death ??
Exact oppisate of my meaning |
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Tourer
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Akron Ohio area | I talked to a couple of factory guys at the AVR and they assured me that the Vision is still Victory's Premium Touring Motorcycle. It ain't going anywhere. The Goldwing is a loss leader for Honda and they keep producing it with very little change over more than 10 years. Still no electric windscreen, still has an undersized front end prone to wobble and they continue to have the measly 410 pound carry capacity. How long did BMW keep the 1200LT going? One glance at a Vision by anyone who knows anything about motorcycles and they know it's a Victory. It's their flagship, just like a vette is to Chevy and a Cobra is to Ford. Victory doesn't make another motorcycle that appeals to me. Without Victory offering the Vision, I would have bought the Harley Ultra or the BMW 1200LT. The Cross Country isn't going to get an electric windscreen anytime soon, if ever.
Edited by bigfoot 2012-08-23 11:44 AM
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Phenix City AL. | I hope they don't change the vision, putting bigger bags like the xc would look hideous, why do you need detachable bags, just something to get loose, as far as a quick detach trunk, Is 15 min. Too much? Again too many parts to fail. |
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Danville, CA | Agree 100%. Well put. |
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| I love my 2008 Vision. I have about 18K miles on it now so it is far from worn out. If I was in the position that I had to buy another MC it would be another VV............. I think in a couple years that will happen. I would not mind some slight tweeking, not sure what that would be but I could tolerate that a bit. I ride w/o my trunk so a quick change passenger back rest that costs less than $500 would be nice. As far as a XC rear, Harley did that with the Street Glide and Road Glide and I like the looks of the RG a bit more than the SG. Not more than my VV though, ha ha. I like the rear end of my VV but I wonder what the VV would look like with a XC/VV mix. I think the VV could loose some weight but I would not want to sacrifice the great handling and tip over protection I have on my model year..
Anyhow, I hope when the day comes to retire my Vic, that they have something I want. My SSG Vision still gets the occasional wave and thumbs up during my commute. Just yesterday at a gas station I had an old guy asking about it. I do like the fact that the Vision is such an eye catching MC, I hope the VV sales supports the justification to Victory so they keep it around..
Bill
Edited by bfisherman11 2012-08-23 4:42 PM
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Green Bay, WI United States | I am no Account Manager but Victory Visions have not met the bean counters ROI (return on investment) yet. I am in the plastic industry and they have a huge investment for the whole Vision Program right next to the X-bike program, not sure who is ahead but Polaris as a Corporation is very smart with models and revising them. No wounder they are second right behind H-D. The only thing I could see is a re-design, using current tooling with Engineering changes for the inner part for the huge saddle bags on the Vision, my guts tell me this will not happen. I once was told to not worry about anything I have no control of.... Made sense to me and I live my life that way....
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| I absolutely love my Vision, it is almost everything I want out of a motorcycle. My single only grip is storage space... And the only time that is ever a problem is on Vacation rides.
I am getting to the point in my life where I hate hotels, since I live in them half the year or better, and my back's tolerance to sleeping on the ground is getting lower.
I am giving very serious thought of buying a toy hauler for the longer trips. Not a big fan of trailering, but to take the comforts of home with, have the ability to cook a half way decent meal, use a clean bathroom, and have a nice bed to sleep in, its pretty darn appealing. |
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Brighton, TN | yes, yes, yes, toyhauler, yes, yes, repeat until you purchase it. Love mine! |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | Have they down-sized the plant and sold the tooling? I'd like to see at least one credible source either way. This isn't my first rodeo. This is more or less a retread of what has been hashed around since 2008 when the bike officially came out. "Next year is the last". "Vision re-designed next year". Even if one of these guesses turns out to be correct, it won't be due to forum burners actually giving us the inside scoop. It will be a lucky guess. And historically, there hasn't even been any good guesses around here in a very long time.
I'd fire employees outed for speculating in public in a heartbeat. I don't care if they were just broom-pushers. Creating a rumor that the current stock is going to be superseded by a better version or is going away completely is bad for sales. If "little birdies" who actually know what is going on talked to the public about guarded company secrets, "little birdies" would not be employed very long.
Vision speculation is worse than iPhone rumors.
Edited by bigwill5150 2012-08-26 12:59 PM
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New Bohemia, VA | There're all credible rumors, does that count? |
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Lansing, MI | varyder - 2012-08-26 1:37 PM
There're all credible rumors, does that count?
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Iron Butt
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, WI | The Vision still has a few years left. There are still some nice color options.
In 2014 the Vision will come in one color (Avocado Green?), 2015 it will be gone.
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | What is this now? 3rd - 4th year now of "no more Visions"... lol |
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Tourer
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Akron Ohio area | The Vision will not be due for a major overhaul until 2018 when it's 10 years old.
Look at the Goldwing, the Connie, the Burgman.
I was at the AVR, asked lots of questions and many chuckled when questions about the demise of the Vision were brought up. I was assured that the Vision remains Victory's Premium Touring Motorcycle.
Victory getting rid of the Vision would be like Chevy getting rid of the Corvette or Ford getting rid of the Mustang.
Simply looking around at the AVR would show that the Vision was well represented. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Gold Wing and others have been creating rumors for their respective rides for decades, why should Victory be any different? |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Pleeeezzzzeeee - all VISION owners - bury your Vision in your yard, a swamp, or dismantle it for parts.
The reason I have explained for YEARS that I want you all to do this - is because I WANT TO OWN THE ONLY ONE - THE BEST EVER.
Yah, I know, I'm selfish. But that's the way I've ALWAYS felt about my SPCSHP.
Plan B is for all of you to 'customize' your Vision - that way my STOCK Vision will always look 'Custom'. C'mon people - let's see some co-operation out there .....
..... why do you guys fight me on this, sheesh !
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Hartland, , WI | Lots of opinion on this topic...has anyone ever considered when the VV was introduced what the economy was doing...and still is doing? Maybe Polaris is trying to tough it out and if the economy gets going the VV will sell better just like all non-essential purchases. The sale of the VV has never seen a healthy economy?wonder what sales would have been like if it was going strong? |
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New Bohemia, VA | Yes! And despite the woes of the economy, the big, expensive stuff is still selling. Sure, there are those who held/helding off, and those who have hit misfortune and had to give up the toys. I think even if the economy took off like lightening, the ratio of Visions being sold verses other models/brands. The Vision will remain in the state of being before its time, and it will remain in the hands of Polaris/Victory the fate of it. The world wants big baggers, not smartly done radical bikes. The Vision will remain in the smaller niche arena for its life. |
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