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Halifax, NS | I copied this from a Harley forum... ******************************************************************************************************************************* This is somewhat of a review of Victory Motorcycles. I have visited the Victory stores numerous times, and this is my personal opinion and evaluation of the brand. Please to not be offended, if I offend you, this is just my opinion. Regardless if you agree or disagree, post your opinions as well.
Now, to the review:
Lately, I've been hearing a lot of people raving about Victory Motorcycles. Say what? Yeah, you heard right...many people are now considering Victory to be the American cruiser over Harley Davidson. I have issues with this myself. Why? Well, let's just look at a Victory from a glance.
First, off, they do have a rather substantially sized engine. Yes, they say 106ci on the side, etc, but the styling of the engine looks like any metric bike out there. The engine simply does not have the American flavour. It is not something I can exactly put a finger on, but any time I see one, I always swear it is a metric bike.
Secondly, the styling they have to offer is gaudy and looks cheap. No offense to anybody out there, but it looks to me that Victory has gone so far out of there way to make something "different" that they lost sight of what they were doing. Some people may like it, but if I'm going to buy a cruiser, I want it to look something traditional. The best company that accomplishes this is Harley-Davidson. Can't deny it. And, simply put, any other company I am aware of makes motorcycles look like motorcycles. Sometimes I feel that Victorys look a little more like giant scooters. By the way, has anyone seen the new Honda DN-01?
Going into more detail. Victorys seem to have a TON of plastic accessories. The last time I went to a Victory dealership, the Hondas and Yamahas had more metal components than did any Victory there. Plastic is NOT American. Plastic is cheap and disgusting. I don't ride anything that has plastic fenders.
It seems to me that Victory markets themselves to compete with Harley-Davidson because they are American; but in reality, they compete with more what they are: Yamaha and Honda. Most of their marketing hinges on big rear tires and "beefy" engines. Anybody that loves American iron is either going to buy a Harley, Big Dog, or one from any of the various custom bike makers on the market. Plus, with the price that some of these Victorys get up to, why not go with a Big Dog, or a good Harley?
Again, this is just my two cents. I will be sticking with my Harley, thank you very much. ******************************************************************************************************************************* I have to say that the posts were very civalized. I do agree with one statement made - Victorys engine is very much like any other Japanese engine. - That statement is very true ... The double overhead cam - cam chain arangement ect is the same. 1 oil lubs all -
Japanese motors dont use a gear between the crank and the clutch like Vic does. Ever wonder what makes that whinny noise at idle or when you rev the bike a bit... That is the gear between the clutch and the crank in the primary... Harley uses a chain between the crank and the clutch on there 96-103 and 110 motors. It is thought that a chain is used because the runout on the crank makes it impossable to use a gear !!!! Most if not all Japanese bikes run a small pinon gear on the crank that drives a gear on the clutch basket - no gear in between....... no need for it.... So why does Vic put this gear in between the crank and clutch.... I am not sure - all I can think of is .....Its more American to say you have a Primary ??????? There is a statement that Victorys look cheap... I dont seee that in any of Victorys bikes. I also cant find all the plastic... The last statement that cought my eye was one I was thinking about on a ride last Saturday.......................
I was traveling down a nice twisty road when I found myself behind a group of Cruiser riders. I noticed a Harley and a Vulcan and what looked like a LC or C90. This made me feel like I was riding something different - NOT a cruiser - Any of you feel like you are not on a cruiser when you ride your Vic????
It seemed to me these look a like cruisers were vintage looking and I was the only one on a new bike.... Wierd but - what can I say......
Even though the bikes in front of me were all different brands from a distance or from behind they looked a like !!!! And there was one more issue ...... I had to get around these guys because my XCTSC (Cross Country Tour Sport Tourer) was biteing at the bit to get the show going... LOL So what do you guys think
No Harley bashing.... I love the look of the Electra Glide..... |
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Nebraska | Anyone needing validation on their choice of rides probably should be riding a HD. |
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New Bohemia, VA | No favor done, friend. We can read on the Harley forum all day long this stuff. Doesn't mean a thing except you took up space here. As maddog said, go buy a Harley. |
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| It seems to me whoever wrote the original article is a koolaid drinking Harley fan. Nothing wrong with that but he hardly brings an objective viewpoint. |
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Harbor Springs Michigan | It is sorta funny that a HD rider bashes an american made bike. Just because he can't see the difference between a jap bike and a vic is a sure sign of lacking in VISION! Frankly, I like the fact that this guy can't tell the difference as it clearly indicates he has no vision and I would hope he stays away from them. I have yet to find a single Vision rider that I would not want to take few hundred mile ride with. This tool, not so much..I'm just saying... |
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Sullivan, IN United States | Went riding this past weekend with bunch of Harleys. they are nice bikes, even the one who's tail pipe fell off and had to use wire to hold it in place. nice bikes. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | one of the Main points behind plastic is to reduce Weight! Reduction in weight gives you a better power to weight ratio. Also if your plastic fender got chipped it wouldnt rust.. |
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East TN | One thing that always gets me, reading on HD forums is that they whine that Victory is a metric bike, but that COPIED the HD look! Really? SO a CCT or a VIsion looks like a HD....I don't think so... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Ya'll all know I still have a RoadGlide too and though it's not My #1 bike any more I still like it. When I look at the engines side by side I'm sure glad I don't see pushrod tubes on the side of the Vision engine............ |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I'd like to know how old and how much MC experience the first poster had. I can see an old timer who's grown up riding panheads, shovelheads, evos and now twincams just being brand loyal and just too entrenched to change, but when these statements come from someone on their first Harley and a lot of leather & tassels I just laugh. I've owned 9 Harleys and I won't buy another one until a new modern engine replaces the current twincam design. Does any one remember The Nova project ?? HD already made a 60 degree DOHC watercooled V-4 AND V-6 engine. I saw them at the museum just three weeks ago. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | I've never been one to go with the "in crowd". So I don't care what they ride, nor do I care about what they think when I ride by them. Sp many H-D guys are brand loyal no matter how good the other stuff is or how bad their stuff is. They pay for the right to be in that club. How many times have you heard a H-D guy say if you aint riding a harley then you arent riding a motorcycle. How stupid. Just ride what you bought and be proud of it. I'm not ashamed of my decision. |
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New Bohemia, VA | And does a great job at it.... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Well said varyder: Victory could make tons more money if they'd step up their aftermarket "stuff". This would eventually bring more sales of bikes too....... HD is the best at this. Now how about a modern engine HD ?? 
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Phenix City AL. | Great review, have they seen the V- rod lol. |
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Simi Valley, CA | Yeah those Victory marketing guys are really missing out.... they should have come out with the Victory Toilet seat already! |
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New Bohemia, VA | As long as I like to sit in the saddle, that would be a bad idea, if they came out with "in-ride refueling". |
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| The HD thing is really just a mystery to me. It wasn't long ago that people would turn their backs on the domestic auto makers because of the crappy 1984 Whatever Shitbox they had wasn't worth damn, so they started buying import cars, but on the weekends would hop are their HD and bitch about people riding "Jap crap"
Meanwhile they ride one for lowest value, lowest quality, lowest reliability bikes (HD) on the road.
Still to this day the giant HD sticker, and American flag sticker on the back of a Toyota SUV makes me shake my head. It really shows a special level of ignorance when it comes to knowledge of the manufacturing in the US. I am no expert but I at least pay attention to stuff like "Domestic Index" and finally assembly locations.
I personally don't buy in to the "classic" styling of HDs, don't like they way their motors rattle the bike apart, and the last few I rode handled like crap. But then again most bikes handle like crap when compared to the Vision. |
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Western Wyoming | After almost 1/4 million enjoyable miles on Harleys,the last their flagship tourer (excl. the CVO Ultra). I'd have to say the 2010 Limited was the 2nd best motorcycle I've owned to date.Compared to my VV, a distant 2nd.
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| Hey..Give the HD evaluator his due....Opinions are like "ass-holes" we all have one and if he likes his Harley more power to him...I would be willing to bet he has never ridden a Vision and or any Vic...If he did he would buy one!!! |
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Orlando, FL | There is only one thing that I do not like about the design of Vic's, baggers excluded. I never understood why in the world they put the drive train on the same side as the exhaust. On baggers you don't notice. But on all the other rides it leaves the bike looking unbalanced ....... to me. And then there's the access issue. Having the drive belt behind the exhaust sure can't make maintenence easier.
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New Bohemia, VA | On the Vision, the entire exhaust, minus the front head pipe, has to be removed, just to get to the primary pulley to take the belt off. But all this is what it is. I would rather change the belt on my Vision, 3 times now, than to change the air filter on a Gold Wing. Other than the Toyota Corolla that we bought new, there has ALWAYS been an American made care in my driveway. I'm not getting in to the % of parts stuff, I'm talking about the brand, Ford or Chrysler. Funny thing is the Toyota Corolla that we owned was EXACTLY the same as the Chevrolet same class car except for the headlight/tail light clips. But I digress, unless we all become engineers and design and create for ourselves, we will never be totally satisfied with stuff we buy....except for my Vision... |
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Tifton, GA | While parked on Main St. in Daytona during bike week I talked with a guy parked next to me on a CVO Ultra Classic. He told me that a good friend of his owned a Victory dealership and talked about how the Victorys stock were faster than his bike. He also talked about how they rode and handled better. I ask why he did get one and his reply was I just am a Harley rider and always will be. At least he is a honest Harley rider. |
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Green Bay, WI United States | Sorry but the look I get with throttle rollons on the freeway from any bike but a well sized crotch rocket is worth the price of admission, especially in the review mirror. Ride on and keep your mind in the windshield and the rear view mirror after you blow them off. At least they are riding hard..... |
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Green Bay, WI United States | varyder - 2012-09-10 11:21 AM
As long as I like to sit in the saddle, that would not be a bad idea, if they came out with "in-ride refueling".  Just showed your Military background - God Bless, Thank You for your service and go for it Bother!!!!! I would love to be re-fueled at low altitude flight on my Vision (95-100 mph across NM) can you see the tail dropping down and waiting to connect to the gas tank (really bad angle of the dangle to pull this off with the current gas tank design). Me and Rollin could break new records if we had an aerial re-fuel station and a Piss sucker at the same time ;-) LOL VARYDER you are the best, Ride on..... and God Bless our Military.....known and un known
God Bless the USA and as always,,,,,,,
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Green Bay, WI United States | varyder - 2012-09-10 11:21 AM
As long as I like to sit in the saddle, that would not be a bad idea, if they came out with "in-ride refueling". Just showed your Military background - God Bless, Thank You for your service and go for it Bother!!!!! I would love to be re-fueled at low altitude flight on my Vision (95-100 mph across NM) can you see the tail dropping down and waiting to connect to the gas tank (really bad angle of the dangle to pull this off with the current gas tank design). Me and Rollin could break new records if we had an aerial re-fuel station and a Piss sucker at the same time ;-) LOL VARYDER you are the best, Ride on..... and God Bless our Military.....known and un known
God Bless the USA and as always,,,,,,,
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Halifax, NS | Sorry for taking up space on this site!!!!!!! seems some are short sited...
I was doing a google search when I came accross this Victory review post on a Harley web site.
I know most Harley riders are not happy with Victorys growing market share. And I found it very interesting to read about what they thought of Victory.
Thought I would share and get your impression of the post on the Harley site.
Its not about bashing any brands.
I really like the look of the Harleys. As a classic cruiser no one can touch the style.
I bought a Vic because I wanted an American made bike and I couldnt get the forward styling of the XCT out of my mind. Also I wanted reliability in my ride.
I did a lot of searching and it seems that reliability is not the factor with Harley. I believe Harley knows the cost of ownership and relies on the service revenue as a part of there business. They could resolve the issues with the twin cam but they would loose massive service opertunities....
Its no secret that a lot of jobs have left our shores. If we dont buy our own products and support MFG done at home then who will be working!!!!!
I drive a 2012 Ford Ranger - loaded FX4 off road pkg. This is my 4th Ranger and all of them have been reliable trucks. I have never spent any money on these besides oil and brakes.
Every ride on my XCT I have Harley riders waveing at me. Strange since this didnt happen when I was on my Japanese bike. For the most part at least in this area it seems if you ride a Victory you are a cut above the Japanese rider. Strange but true.....
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | robsxct - 2012-09-10 10:33 PM Sorry for taking up space on this site!!!!!!! seems some are short sited... IIts no secret that a lot of jobs have left our shores. If we dont buy our own products and support MFG done at home then who will be working!!!!! I drive a 2012 Ford Ranger - loaded FX4 off road pkg. This is my 4th Ranger and all of them have been reliable trucks. I have never spent any money on these besides oil and brakes. Every ride on my XCT I have Harley riders waveing at me. Strange since this didnt happen when I was on my Japanese bike. For the most part at least in this area it seems if you ride a Victory you are a cut above the Japanese rider. Strange but true..... Although you are Canadian - your words were 'Spoken like a true AMERICAN', Rob. But BUY CANADIAN - I say !!! Get a CAN-AM ... it's almost CANADIAN. Geeze - KNOCK OFF THE 'BUILT IN THE blah-blah-blah' - we all live in this ONE world. And buy what works the best. VICTORY |
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Halifax, NS | Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler
Canada builds very little
We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does...........
Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way
You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA
We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way...
Canadians build / make very little
So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN...
I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing
Rob
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM
Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler
Canada builds very little
We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does...........
Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way
You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA
We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way...
Canadians build / make very little
So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN...
I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing
Rob
You sell C eh N eh D eh short my friend. Except for school busses and a few small manufacturers of goofy looking 15 seat city transit busses, most large transit sytem busses are built in Canada, as are 90+% of the big highway coaches (Greyhound, etc.) are built in the GWN. I about fell off my chair when a huge manufactured stink was made over the coaches purchased by the Secret Service for the POTUS, particularly by one befuddled old geezer Senator from the land of sunshine concerning 'foreign made busses', Wait! didn't HE vote for NAFTA? and his campaign bus was built by the vey same Canadian coach manufacturer (oh, nevermind). BOMBARDIER is the worlds largest manufacturer of peope movers from busses to rail cars and train locomotives used around the world, and the majority of U.S. vans and pickups bear a label stating 'Hecho en CANADA' made in factories in Ontario and Windsor.
The SPIDER took some getting used to just like VISIONS did, my immediate thoughts when seeing my first one was 'clever way to sell basically a sled in another wrapper' and wondered if a kit would be offered to change one from bike to snow machine as the weather changed. 
And, as I understand it, y'all are pretty clever marketers, we build the Keystone, you pump the liquid sandpaper (and the leaks in the pipeline) to us, we refine it, you already have it sold elsewhere in the world, and we get stuck with the cleanup and disposal of the left over wastes-THAT'S MARKETING!
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LaGrange, GA | The only bit that annoys me (and makes me laugh) is this -- "Plus, with the price that some of these Victorys get up to, why not go with a Big Dog, or a good Harley?" -- I love that attitude. They all have it, even my old man (although he tries not to.) He said it to me once, though -- "...but if you're gonna spend that much, why not go ahead and get the Harley?" They just instinctively think everything else is settling for something. Doesn't even enter their mind that you might have wanted it, even if it's a whole different class of bike that HD doesn't make. It's awesome. |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | BrandonM7 - 2012-09-11 8:51 AM
The only bit that annoys me (and makes me laugh) is this -- "Plus, with the price that some of these Victorys get up to, why not go with a Big Dog, or a good Harley?" -- I love that attitude. They all have it, even my old man (although he tries not to.) He said it to me once, though -- "...but if you're gonna spend that much, why not go ahead and get the Harley?" They just instinctively think everything else is settling for something. Doesn't even enter their mind that you might have wanted it, even if it's a whole different class of bike that HD doesn't make. It's awesome.
BIG DOG rolled over about 5 +years ago, I knew a guy who hauled them from Wicthita to showrooms all over, took him a while to find another secure hauling contract. And they were 30 minute bikes, ride one for 30 minutes and get your friends to help you get off it. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler Canada builds very little We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does........... Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way... Canadians build / make very little So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN... I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing Rob I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA. Sorry  |
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| robsxct - 2012-09-10 10:33 PM
I really like the look of the Harleys. As a classic cruiser no one can touch the style.
No one has too. If I wanted a classic bike, I would buy a real classic. |
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| donetracey - 2012-09-11 9:33 AM
robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler Canada builds very little We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does........... Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way... Canadians build / make very little So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN... I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing Rob I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA. Sorry??? ?
The Ranger for US consumption was built in the Ford's St. Paul assembly plant, and maintained the rather high domestic index of better than 60% beating the average of all import makers fleet average domestic index for vehicles sold in the US.
Most Rangers built for global consumption where built closer to their local markets.
What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs.
So what where you saying? it doesn't matter what you buy or where its from? I beg to differ.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Kelvininin - 2012-09-11 10:21 AM donetracey - 2012-09-11 9:33 AM I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA. The Ranger for US consumption was built in the Ford's St. Paul assembly plant, and maintained the rather high domestic index of better than 60% beating the average of all import makers fleet average domestic index for vehicles sold in the US. I beg to differ. The last Ranger built was 2011 in the US. See this article: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1050522_all-new-2012-ford-ranger-not-coming-to-the-u-s-heres-why |
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| Again, the Ranger build for US Consumption was built in the US. The last Ranger built and sold in the US was a 2011. For 2012, the Ranger is no longer offered in the US.
Where is the confusion?
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| Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Kelvininin - 2012-09-11 10:50 AM Again, the Ranger build for US Consumption was built in the US. The last Ranger built and sold in the US was a 2011. For 2012, the Ranger is no longer offered in the US. Where is the confusion? No confusion with me. It's just our Canuck pal Rob who is confused - believing that he is 'Buying U.S.' with his 2012 Ranger. And forgets that many U.S. cars and trucks on the road in America were made in Ontario, Canada. And many of the parts on our Victory came from outside the U.S.A. I believe in a 'World Economy' - and 'Buy The Best (you can afford)'. My bike is mostly American, my car is mostly Japanese, my Japanese wife's car is mostly German. So what ... 
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride. Ride safe Jmack out for good aaawwwww, 'sniff' |
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New Bohemia, VA | donetracey - 2012-09-11 2:05 PM jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride. Ride safe Jmack out for good aaawwwww, 'sniff' Don's been here for a long time, why are you having a problem with him now....?  |
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Simi Valley, CA | jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM
Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride.
Ride safe
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Halifax, NS | Damn I screwed up
My Ranger is a 2011 With a BIG STICKER that says made in Detroit.....
Thanks for the info Kelvininin
What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs.
It is hard to believe how many people dont understand what drives the economy and the spin offs it provides
I found this forum a little slow. I thought a good Harley thread would wake some people up. It seems it did but in a bad way.
Only ask questions about Victory must be the rule here
Ooooooooooooops
40 years on two wheels
Many Bikes over 20
Current Rides
06 Suzuki 400 Eiger 4 wheeler
2012 Yamaha WR250R
2013 XCT
2011 Ford Ranger FX4
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | robsxct - 2012-09-11 8:01 PM Damn I screwed up My Ranger is a 2011 With a BIG STICKER that says made in Detroit..... Thanks for the info Kelvininin What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs. It is hard to believe how many people dont understand what drives the economy and the spin offs it provides I found this forum a little slow. I thought a good Harley thread would wake some people up. It seems it did but in a bad way. Only ask questions about Victory must be the rule here Ooooooooooooops 40 years on two wheels Many Bikes over 20 Current Rides 06 Suzuki 400 Eiger 4 wheeler 2012 Yamaha WR250R 2013 XCT 2011 Ford Ranger FX4 Rob, Rob, Rob I HATE to have to be the one to tell you this - but HALIFAX, NS is in CANADA. NOT "Here in the US" Please appologize to you school teachers and return to grade 2 immediately. Thanks - from all Canadians. |
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Halifax, NS | <p>Don What you dont know is that when the US economy TANKS so does ours...........Thats what happends when the USA is your BIGGEST trading partner.. Thats why our Priminister is looking for other trading partners... All my life the US economy would hickup and the Canadian econmy would shit the bed. This time - for the FIRST time our economy is doing fairly good compared to the USA. Our teachers do a fair job teaching wold economics its yours that need to look beyond your Province !!!!!!!! </p>
Edited by robsxct 2012-09-13 7:49 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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coweta ok | Engine looks like a metric bike? Works for me, riding kawasaki nomads for 11 years if this Vision is as good a motorcycle (which it is indicating it is and then some,)as my kawasaki, GREAT, best bike I've ever owned (including h-d) Vision handles way better and power is flawless, as indicated last week as my Vision ran easily to 110 in 5th not even full throttle going past the ultra-toad classic. I think my vision is gonna be a keeper :-) I also like my plastic, no chance of rust! |
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Cruiser
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Bullhead City, AZ | If I wanted something my grandfather rode I could buy a HD. |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | robsxct - 2012-09-13 5:47 PM Don What you dont know is that when the US economy TANKS so does ours...........Thats what happends when the USA is your BIGGEST trading partner.. Thats why our Priminister is looking for other trading partners... All my life the US economy would hickup and the Canadian econmy would shit the bed. This time - for the FIRST time our economy is doing fairly good compared to the USA. Our teachers do a fair job teaching wold economics its yours that need to look beyond your Province !!!!!!!! Rob - you have NO idea what I 'know' - I am a consultant who still works (couple of days a week for $4,000) - but collects pension from both Canada and USA. My firm that I consult for was just bought out by the Chinese - and they plan to quadruple our sales within 3 years. They 'purchased' our knowledge - not our assets. Grow up - this is a new world - bigger than Canada and USA. And I never owned and American bike until 2008. I ALWAYS laughed at HD's for the OLD pieces of shit that they STILL are. But VICTORY changed that - because they are functional, fast, comfortable and GREAT to look at - first bike from ANYONE that looked like it was made for the 21st Century. And I don't care WHERE it it made - because I am a Human from The Planet Earth. As are all of you ... |
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