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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The tires shown below are Dunlop Elite 3 rear 180/60R-16 Radial and front 130/70R-18 Radial. They are the stock type and size for a 2008 Victory Vision. They have approximatley 22k miles on them. The land around here is flat and roads are laid out in a grid pattern. No curves in my area (unfortunatley). I have read some theories on the net regarding left side tire wear. They are only theories, though, not real lab data. I wondered what your thoughts are? Anyone know of creditable test results? Thanks
Edited by victoryvisiontour 2012-12-14 1:04 PM
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Iron Butt
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| I'm thinking I would love to get 22k miles. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | You know we have some pretty severe crowns on our roads. Maybe riding on the right side means that the left side of the tire gets more contact? |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Wow those tires are scary, and should have been replaced many thousand miles ago. That said....Road crowns, the distance is longer in a left turn then a right, and more lean on lefts out of an interesection then right. From what I understand tread wear is greater on the right in the UK and Oz |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | Just a little past the wear indicators. 
Here is a good read on this. According to the article, Kevin is right. It is from the left turns.
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/
Edited by ScoreBo 2012-12-14 3:43 PM
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Yep, as Kevin said, it is from the combination of road crowns and left turns in intersections being longer across than right turns. Riders in countries that drive on the left have more right side wear. It's normal.
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Cruiser
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| I wouldn't worry about what caused that wear (other than the fact they should have been changed 5k miles ago), I wo9uld get on my knees and thank the good Lord that I was still alive!! |
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Cruiser
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | As for myself I tend to throttle on harder to the left than the right! |
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Cruiser
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| I have the same experience of left side wear with my tires. I believe it has to do with road crowns and longer left turns.
I also believe folks riding on the left (UK) experience right side wear.
That being said, those tires are seriously worn and IMHO were probably dangerous thousands of miles ago.
I'd be thrilled to get to 10,000 on a rear tire. I'm lucky to get 9,000. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | savage - 2012-12-14 7:27 PM
I wouldn't worry about what caused that wear (other than the fact they should have been changed 5k miles ago), I would get on my knees and thank the good Lord that I was still alive!!
No need to worry with these tires. Even at the thinnest point they were still 1/4 inch thick and had 3 layers of chords in tact. I mentioned in another thread that I rode 20+ miles completely flat on a different set of E3's. It really did not make much difference. A bit of handlebar wobble in slow sharp turns, but nothing to keep me from getting home.
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Cruiser
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Henlow, Bedfordshire, England | Kevinx and double vision are there. In the UK the wear is on the right due to road camber (crown) I also have a bad wear problem on the front due to the type of town riding my vision does most of (twisting and turning all the time) |
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Cruiser
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Pittsburgh, PA | My front tire has only 9000 miles on it and it is in a little better shape than the above. I just bought a new one. Got only 7500 out of the rear. Spoke to a dealer rep about tire wear and he claims to have had talks with tire reps. They claim that Pittsburgh roads are terrible on tires. They also claimed that tires wear faster when you ride on both hot and cold temps. I'm also 6-3 and weigh 325 lbs. My tires always have weight on them. I drive into work at 3:00 A.M. when they are their coolest and ride home between 1:30 -3:30 P.M. My dealer claims that he sees tires like this all the time from local riders and they all ask for longer running tires. I like riding so I have to repace tires a little sooner, so be it, but I'll never ride bald ass tires like those pictured above. I do ride in all weather conditions too. Has any one else heard the road temp theory before? |
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Cruiser
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St. Louis, MO United States | Had the same issue on my Honda VTX1300 I used to have. Researched into it and found the following article. Made enough sense to me that I can except the explanation given.
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/ |
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Tourer
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Chattanooga, TN | One way you can avoid that kind of wear is to switch lanes when there isn't a car in the opposing lane. Depending upon how much traffic there is in your area, you may eventually be able to completely even out the wear in your tires. I ride until I can see just a little bit of cord through the rubber and then change. The most I've ever gotten was about 14k miles on E3's. Then again, I love the twisties and could care less about going through the curves a little slower to get a few more miles out of a set of tires. Good luck with opposing traffic! |
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Puddle Jumper
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| The Election last November indicated that more Americans (excluding me) lean to the left. (:-) |
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Iron Butt
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| wesdalton - 2012-12-19 7:28 AM The Election last November indicated that more Americans (excluding me) lean to the left. (:-) +1 |
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Tourer
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New Orleans, La, | I'm going to chyme in on the tyre wear issue as it relates to mileage. After getting 14.5K on my factory E3's and 10K on my Avon Cobras I discovered how important tyre preasure affects mileage. I now try to maintain my preasure @ 41 psi front and rear and got 17k out of my Continental Conti Motions. I would have gotten more but hit an object in the road and boke 1 or some belts left of the centre. Just my observation. |
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Iron Butt
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Orlando, FL | kevinx - 2012-12-14 4:06 PM
Wow those tires are scary, and should have been replaced many thousand miles ago. That said....Road crowns, the distance is longer in a left turn then a right, and more lean on lefts out of an interesection then right. From what I understand tread wear is greater on the right in the UK and Oz
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Kevin, as usual is right on the money. Everything noted by him is the answer to your question.
Now, why in the hell would you endanger your life and the lives of other drivers and pedestrians riding on such bad tires? If you were endangering only your life I would not care a bit. I'd hate to see the tires on your car. Thank goodness you live in Indiana. Your comment about having 1/4 inch left (which has nothing to do with tire grip and safety) only confirms your lack of concern with the safety of others on the road.
Edited by MaddMAx2u 2012-12-20 9:44 AM
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The tires were fine before I left on a trip. When I returned from that trip is when I saw the chords showing. I removed them from the bike the next day. I check the pressure weekly and look at the tires each time. I always check the tires before a trip. Apparently they wear fast when they get near the wear bars. My comment about 1/4 inch was meant to show my surpise at how much wall thickness was left even with chords worn through. It looks to me like the E3 is a very safe tire. Especially when I am hundreds of miles from home and the tire gets past the wear bars. I know I can still get home safely. I called a nearby HD shop and asked if they would change my tires if I took the wheels off my bike myself. They said they only work on Harleys and they won't change tires on other rims. So, what was I to do? |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Hi all from OZ . As your aware we ride on thelhs of the road here . And yes we do get the opposite wear pattern . Simply they build the roads with a slight camber in ghem , usually the high point being the center of the road . This is so rain water runs off faster . Doesn't affect the cars as the entire car is sitting at the same angle as the road . But we sit upright , making one side of the tire , wear accordingly . Good luck with 22,000 miles . But you pics scared the hell out of me . Cheers from down under . |
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Tourer
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Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | Here's a pic of my Vision's E3 after 10,000 miles-plenty of meat on the right side but the tire was scalloped pretty bad and the ride quality was no longer acceptable to me-I went through two of these and now have an Avon Cobra-just need some warmer weather and dry roads to see how it wears.
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