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| I reside a great distance from the nearest Victory Store. For that reason I am wondering if anyone could tell me what alternative Motorcycle Oil(s) Brand(s) I may be able to use in my 2008 Victory Vision (other than AMSOIL) which might be easy to obtain at say,.....the local Wal~Mart or Auto Parts Store. Oil Filters also. Thank You Very Much. |
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Posts: 206 Lumber Bridge, NC United States | I have been useing rotella T6 if that helps you. and a napa filter. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 11
| How long have you been using Rotella? Is it pretty compatible with the "Wet Clutch" as far as noise?
Do you know the Filter Number?
Thanx |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 11
| NAPA Gold 1356? |
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Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | dadude - 2012-12-21 7:06 PM
NAPA Gold 1356?
Yes. It's made by WIX and is also marketed as a WIX 51356 and as a Carquest 85356. Those are actually car filters, but work great on our Victorys. You can also use a WIX 51358, NAPA 1358, or Carquest 85358, which are the motorcycle specific filters, but will cost you a little more. You've apparently already ruled out Amsoil, but that is what I've been using for the past 12 years in my Victory bikes. Nope, no clutch slipping. They make a wide variety of oils. Use the right one, and it isn't the Harley/Buell/Triumph 20W-50MCV oil that some have mistakenly used in their Victorys, with poor results. Victorys use the 10W-40 AMO, or 20W-50 ARO, or 10W-40 MCF. I have always gone 5000 miles per change on those.
Lot's of folks are using Rotella these days, but it looks to me like most are still changing it at 2500 miles, which doubles the cost per mile. I've not tried it. I have tried Golden Spectro, Castrol, Valvoline, and Mobile 1, in addition to Amsoil.
Ronnie
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Here we go again !!!!!!!!! |
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Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | Lol. I use Mobil 1 mainly cause I can get it a half mile from my house at Advance auto. They also carry Fram PH7317, Bosch. 3323 or Mobil M1-110 filters. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 880 Orlando, FL | rdbudd, exactly which Amsoil are you using in your Vic? |
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Armpit Oil has the best non-stick qualities. Pricey - but worth it! Use no more than 2 ounces with your regular oil.
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 11
| Thanx Folks,.....Looks as if Rotella T6 & Mobile 1 "Rule" relative to my inquiry.
Any more "Off the Shelf" brands that You'd like to Acknowledge as your Favorite?
It will be nice to see how the preferences begin to STACK Up, especially for Rotella T6 & Mobile One, which appear prominent in most Every Discussion of this nature. |
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Posts: 228
| XRsteve - 2012-12-21 8:13 PM Here we go again !!!!!!!!! WAIT! WAIT!!! Let me get a bag of popcorn and a six-pack so I can enjoy this Christmas "oil thread" |
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Posts: 208 Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Oil is oil! They all meet min specs. I went from 2500 m changes with Vic oil, to 10000 m change if my syn. Vic oil became hard to find neutral at 2000 m, my syn neutral becomes difficult at 8000 m. went from 3-4 changes per year to change every spring with no problems. Not only the cost, but the time and incovience of oil changes and long rides is no longer an issue. Pretty much the cost of the rear tire change every year. If you want to research and feel comfortable with what the book says, follow it, if you do not then don't. I can not count how many engines I have own in my many years, but I have never had any oil related motor failures due to oil maintenance. Over heating, loss of oil, yes. Allof that was from before syn oil was heard of. Also I had a couple of cars/trucks that were driven in over 200000 mile range with no oil engine problem. -40 to 100f cold starts. My father once changed oil and failed to check filter, lost his oil over 70 mile drive.before he noticed the idiot light. Had noisy lifters, however still managed 70000 miles with same engine and no smoking or oil useage between 3000 mile oil changes. Maintenance schedules for the most part is to keep the dealers service departments busy. Just my 2 cents!!!! |
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Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | MaddMAx2u - 2012-12-21 9:02 PM
rdbudd, exactly which Amsoil are you using in your Vic?
I've used mostly the 20W-50ARO in the 2000 Sport Cruiser. I've used mostly the 10W-40AMO in the Vision. Both grades work well in both bikes, but the old SC is a little quieter on the 20W-50ARO in hot weather. The Vision doesn't care which one I use. The 10W-40AMO is the one that is currently recommended for Victory by Amsoil, along with the 10W-40MCF. I've been going 5000 miles per change for 12 years, which makes the oil cost drop in half compared to 2500 mile changes, and more importantly, the bikes still shift good with 5000 miles on the oil. Nothing else I've tried gave those results. Most were breaking down by 2500 miles (shifting started getting "notchy" and neutral started becoming illusive). Mobile 1 was better than the rest of the oils I tried in my SC, but still gave up after 3000 miles.
I started my search for a better oil way back in the early days of Victory when lots of people were having transmission problems. My 2000 Sport Cruiser was exhibiting the same bad behaviors and I was really concerned that I might have a transmission failure too. After trying a few different ones, I came to Amsoil. It stopped all the bad behaviors my SC was exhibiting and so I've stuck with it. The newer bikes are much more refined and may not need it, but I like the 5000 mile oil changes that Amsoil gives me.
I have found that the blanket statement that "oil is oil" not to be true. They may all "meet the minimum requirements", but some far exceed those minimums. If you stick to the 2500 mile oil changes, you'll probably never know the difference, regardless of the oil.
Ronnie
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Posts: 244
| [QUOTE]dan camarco - 2012-12-21 7:55 PM I have been useing rotella T6 if that helps you. and a napa filter.[/QUOTE] Dan: Have you been changing your oil & filter ever 5,000 miles? More often or longer? |
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Posts: 324 New Orleans, La, | I have 60K on my 08 Vision and have been using Rotella T6 for 30K of that. I change every 5K and use a Fram PH6017A all from Wally World for around $40.00. Rotella T6 is the only oil I know of, other than oils that say M/C oil, that is JASO MA certified which is the same as the M/C oils. This is the certification that is neccessary for wet clutch operation. I have never had a problem and I ride her hard and put her up wet many a day. That being said the 08's tend to get noisy near the time/mileage of the next oil change. |
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Posts: 244 Lindale, TX | cw1115 - 2012-12-21 8:21 PM Lol. I use Mobil 1 mainly cause I can get it a half mile from my house at Advance auto. They also carry Fram PH7317, Bosch. 3323 or Mobil M1-110 filters. This is the brand I use: Mobil 1 Synthetic & Mobil M1-110 filters. 25,000 trouble free miles with 5,000 mile changes.
Edited by Easttexasrider 2012-12-23 11:17 PM
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Easttexasrider - 2012-12-23 9:16 PM cw1115 - 2012-12-21 8:21 PM Lol. I use Mobil 1 mainly cause I can get it a half mile from my house at Advance auto. They also carry Fram PH7317, Bosch. 3323 or Mobil M1-110 filters. This is the brand I use: Mobil 1 Synthetic & Mobil M1-110 filters. 25,000 trouble free miles with 5,000 mile changes. And is ANY OF THIS PROOF THAT YOUR CRAP IS BETTER THAN DEALER'S CRAP????? Cripes - just get your damned oil changed when it is due for a change. Who the frig cares what they put in, and there ain't ANY of you have proof that something ELSE is better. In 52 years of owning vehicles of EVERY size and description - the ONLY thing that matters with oil - is using good stuff, changed regularly. I have never had an engine failure due to ANYTHING - so just do your recommended maintenance and don't be ABUSIVE with your driving - like Let's redline every start in first - especially when the engine is cold ! ARMPIT OIL is is the Best!!! and .... GEEZE I hate OIL THREADS (don't stop on my account - you guys make me feel smart! ) |
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| dan camarco - 2012-12-21 6:55 PM I have been useing rotella T6 if that helps you. and a napa filter. +1 and never had any problems. |
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Posts: 880 Orlando, FL | Hey Ronnie, thanks for the AMSOIL Info. I checked my bottole of Amsoil 20W50 Motorcycle oil and could not find the identifier ARO you mentioned. But I do know that it caused my ride clutch slippage. So I returned to Vic oil and the slippage disappeared.
I did however go to Amsoil's site and using their "Motorcycle Guide" to find the correct oil for the Vic, found the following info.
2012 - VICTORY - Vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
2011 VICTORY not listed
2010 VICTORY not listed
2009 - VICTORY - Victory vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCVQT)
2008 - VICTORY - Victory vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCVQT)
I have a 2011 Vision 8 BAll. And as you can see in 2011 Victory bikes are not listed. Yet the 2009 shows the 20W50 my wrench used in my ride. And since Ma Vic has not changed the oil they use based on the year of the bike, I'm guessing Amsoil is no different. Yet they dropped the 20W50 from the list for 2012
Now you talk about ARO and MCF. And I have no idea what those identifiers mean. Bottom line for me is that Amsoil site recommended the 20W50 that casued slippage in my ride. Maybe I'll try the 10W40, but since there is so much confusion about Amsoil products I think I'll stick with Ma Vic or Castrol Actevo X-tra 4T SAE 10W40 (it's a semi-syn)
Edited by MaddMAx2u 2012-12-24 7:10 AM
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Posts: 281
| My Visions like the Victory oil but they like the Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic even more.
My machines did not like Amsoil. I ran Amsoil for many miles on a number of Vics and prefer the Mobil or Victory oil.
I've been going with the Wix filter.
Good luck! |
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Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | MaddMAx2u - 2012-12-24 7:09 AM
Hey Ronnie, thanks for the AMSOIL Info. I checked my bottole of Amsoil 20W50 Motorcycle oil and could not find the identifier ARO you mentioned. But I do know that it caused my ride clutch slippage. So I returned to Vic oil and the slippage disappeared.
I did however go to Amsoil's site and using their "Motorcycle Guide" to find the correct oil for the Vic, found the following info.
2012 - VICTORY - Vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
2011 VICTORY not listed
2010 VICTORY not listed
2009 - VICTORY - Victory vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCVQT)
2008 - VICTORY - Victory vision Tour - 1731
SAE 10W-40 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCFQT)
SAE 20W-50 Synthetic Motorcycle Oil (MCVQT)
I have a 2011 Vision 8 BAll. And as you can see in 2011 Victory bikes are not listed. Yet the 2009 shows the 20W50 my wrench used in my ride. And since Ma Vic has not changed the oil they use based on the year of the bike, I'm guessing Amsoil is no different. Yet they dropped the 20W50 from the list for 2012
Now you talk about ARO and MCF. And I have no idea what those identifiers mean. Bottom line for me is that Amsoil site recommended the 20W50 that casued slippage in my ride. Maybe I'll try the 10W40, but since there is so much confusion about Amsoil products I think I'll stick with Ma Vic or Castrol Actevo X-tra 4T SAE 10W40 (it's a semi-syn)
You're right George. Amsoil dropped the ball with their "Motorcycle Guide". Their own product applications sheets do not agree with it, but at least the applications sheets are correct. As you point out, Amsoil has stopped recommending the 20W-50MCV for Victory in the "Motorcycle Guide" for the later years. I'm amazed they haven't removed the listing for the earlier years. The 20W-50MCV is the one I specifically told everybody to NOT use in their Victory, since it is formulated for Harley, Buell, and the European bikes. Using it in a Victory can cause clutch slipping.
Anyway, just to be clear, here are the links to the ones I've used for years with no problems. The 10W-40AMO http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-10w-40... and the 20W-50ARO http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-20w-50...
That's what I use. Use whatever you want. It makes no difference to me. I was just sharing what I found to work back when many folks were having transmission troubles with early Victory motorcycles, including me. The poor shifting and jumping out of gears went away when I changed to Amsoil. It made a believer out of a skeptic (me). Only the owners of the early Victory bikes know what I'm talking about. The newer Victorys are much more refined and not nearly so susceptible to shifting problems. Still, Amsoil has let me double the recommended 2500 mile oil changes on my Vision, which I could NOT do on the Victory oil. Works for me.
I see Amsoil has changed their website yet again. They no longer list the motorcycle brands in relation to the AMO and ARO oils, just the JASO-MA rating. They do list Victory and the Japanese brands specifically for their 10W-40MCF "motorcycle oil" http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/motorcycle/10w-40-a... I have never used that one. It wasn't on the market back when I started using Amsoil in my Victory. Neither was the 20W-50MCV Harley oil that has gained a reputation for making Victory clutches slip.
Amsoil makes a great product, but their website developer needs to have his/her butt kicked. Their "Motorcycle Guide" sucks. Read the product applications sheets.
That is all. You all know my opinion.
Ronnie
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Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | For those who have not endured the volumes of information in the previous oil threads I'll just offer one repeat that Kevinx (a wrench to be listened to) offered: Victory requires a semi-synthetic rather then full. OK go on, I have popcorn and beer ready. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 623
| I use tortilla t5 10-40 I tried amsoil 10-40 but I got the dreaded clutch slip under hard aggressive riding. usually at high speeds, full throttle in 4th thru 6th gear . back to t5 and no slipping since |
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Posts: 623
| I use tortilla t5 10-40 I tried amsoil 10-40 but I got the dreaded clutch slip under hard aggressive riding. usually at high speeds, full throttle in 4th thru 6th gear . back to t5 and no slipping since |
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Posts: 411 Dallas, Texas | I have been looking at Brad Penn's 20W/50 for my next oil change. http://www.penngrade1.com/Products/Motor-Oils/SAE-20W50.aspx
Not heard a great deal on it as far as advertising, but anyone I spoke with that used it, loved it. |
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Posts: 125
| You ride hard.?? Come On Jeff....
Ps. Never heard of tortilla..... |
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Posts: 10 Sulphur, La | lennyb - 2012-12-24 2:22 PM
For those who have not endured the volumes of information in the previous oil threads I'll just offer one repeat that Kevinx (a wrench to be listened to) offered: Victory requires a semi-synthetic rather then full. OK go on, I have popcorn and beer ready.
According to the manual for my 2013 VV, it states that"Polaris Recommends the use of VICTORY brand Semi-Synthetic 20W-40 Motor Oil or equivalent motorcycle oil that is approved for use in wet clutch transmissions (such as those with a JASO MA rating)."
The semi-synthetic oil is just a recommendation, not a requirement. |
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | dfrazier - 2012-12-26 1:35 PM lennyb - 2012-12-24 2:22 PM For those who have not endured the volumes of information in the previous oil threads I'll just offer one repeat that Kevinx (a wrench to be listened to) offered: Victory requires a semi-synthetic rather then full. OK go on, I have popcorn and beer ready. According to the manual for my 2013 VV, it states that"Polaris Recommends the use of VICTORY brand Semi-Synthetic 20W-40 Motor Oil or equivalent motorcycle oil that is approved for use in wet clutch transmissions (such as those with a JASO MA rating)." The semi-synthetic oil is just a recommendation, not a requirement. And all of you OIL EXPERTS out there know that the manufacturer doesn't know shit ... |
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Posts: 500
| I needed a little humor today, as it is snowing like mad outside, so just had to read another BS oil thread with all the "so-called" oil experts on this site...As they say "C'mon Man"..stop the crap and change the recommended oil on a regular basis and forget the snake oils...As DoneTracey said above and I agree...I have been riding for over 50 years with all kinds of bikes, etc. changed the recommended oil on a regular basis and never, never, ever, have I had one single engine, trans, issue.......IHMO way too much time is wasted on this "garbage", including my post........!!! |
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Posts: 4278
| If you want to find out about your oil get it analyzed. Never heard of any one asking what you put in your car,
Use motorcycle oil and all will be good. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1109
| The manufacturer uses whatever oil that meets his minimum requirements and is the least expensive for him to purchase. If one wants to continue to use that oil then by all means please do. That doesn't mean there aren't better oils. |
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Posts: 178 LaGrange, GA | I Use Rotella NON-synthetic 15w40 in all of my bikes, including the Vision. (dodges tomato attacks) |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1109
| BrandonM7 - 2012-12-28 3:51 PM I Use Rotella NON-synthetic 15w40 in all of my bikes, including the Vision. (dodges tomato attacks) I use the Rotella dino in my Harley, synthetic in my Vision. |
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Posts: 207
| Rotella in all my bikes. +100,000 miles on the Valk with no issues, 34,000 on the VTX, 10,000 so far on the Vision. I change oil and filter every 5,000 miles on all three bikes. |
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Posts: 411 Dallas, Texas | dfrazier - 2012-12-26 3:35 PM
According to the manual for my 2013 VV, it states that"Polaris Recommends the use of VICTORY brand Semi-Synthetic 20W-40 Motor Oil or equivalent motorcycle oil that is approved for use in wet clutch transmissions (such as those with a JASO MA rating)."
The semi-synthetic oil is just a recommendation, not a requirement.
Not saying that the manuals are wrong or right, but did you think that it would recommend anything other than their own oil? If Victory/Polaris didn't distribute their own label oil, it would be interesting to see what it would recommend. |
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Posts: 10 Sulphur, La | iluvink - 2012-12-29 8:53 AM
dfrazier - 2012-12-26 3:35 PM
According to the manual for my 2013 VV, it states that"Polaris Recommends the use of VICTORY brand Semi-Synthetic 20W-40 Motor Oil or equivalent motorcycle oil that is approved for use in wet clutch transmissions (such as those with a JASO MA rating)."
The semi-synthetic oil is just a recommendation, not a requirement.
Not saying that the manuals are wrong or right, but did you think that it would recommend anything other than their own oil? If Victory/Polaris didn't distribute their own label oil, it would be interesting to see what it would recommend.
The post I made above was in reference to someone saying Polaris "Requires" Semi-synthetic oil. I was just stating what the manual says" Polaris Recommends their oil or equivalent oil with JASO MA rating". |
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Posts: 208 Edmonton Alberta, Canada | LOL.......LOL.... To each their own, some like with the trunk, others like with out the trunk! Some like taller windshield, others like the shorty windshields!! Some prefer one brand of fuel over another. If you feel confident in your choice go with it, but to tell others that this is right or this is wrong. Is not right. I made the change to full synthetic two years ago, now I have went from 2500 mile intervals to 10000 mile intervals. It was not only the cost, but the down time, and inconveince of oil changes part way through longer rides. All the symptons I would get with the vic oil breaking down at 2000 miles, Inow get them at around 8500 miles. My oil at the end looks cleaner than the vic oil at shorter intervals. I went from an minimum recommended oil to one that " I believe is far superior" and I am confident and comfortable about my decision. Just like darkside riding, lowering kits, driving lights, led's. fuel controllers, helll I could go on and on. We all appreciate everyone's opinion, but when the dust settles, it is only some ones opinion. I used to call on a car rental chain who only changed oil in their rental when the lease was up, and where going back to GM, Ford etc. Now that is a long time on break in oil!
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Posts: 880 Orlando, FL | Nuttin like a good oil thread for entertainment! Pass the popcorn and pour the Pepsi~
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | After 5 years - I only have a vague idea where the DIPSTICK is - mostly on this website is my best guess.
I also don't have any idea where I might look to check my oil on my two cars. Nor do I EVER want to know. At my age - who gives a f**k - "If it ain't broke - why fix it? "
And in this time and age - why the HELL should I care - leave it to the manufacturer/dealer/oil companies/engine makers/etc.
I have had NO issues since the - no - rephase that - NEVER had an issue with ANY of my 30+ vehicles in 50+ years with oil . Just CHANGE the shit when you are supposed to. NEVER had an engine problem - EVER. Cripes ....
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Posts: 825 , WI | I use synthetic oil and sometimes I use a non-Victory oil filter. Here's a picture of the oil filter. (Sorry the tire is kind of blocking it) 
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Posts: 1066 Peru, IN | Rollin' - 2012-12-30 9:22 AM
Here's a picture of the oil filter. (Sorry the tire is kind of blocking it)
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Posts: 880 Orlando, FL | I hate it when the damn tire gets in the way! Is that the new stock radial Victory is putting on all models? LOL LOL LOL |
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | What the HELL is an 'Oil Filter' ???
Doesn't YOUR oil come already filtered? Mine does ...
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | donetracey - 2012-12-30 7:32 PM What the HELL is an 'Oil Filter' ??? Doesn't YOUR oil come already filtered? Mine does ... I'm kidding, folks ! By the time I got married in 1963, I had changed THOUSANDS of oil filters on every kind of vehicle there was in those days - I worked my way thru university in a Service Station that specialized in truckers/odd ball vehicles. I also was a crewman for a 1/4 mile racer. My first car was a Jaguar XK150 and I rebuilt the engine from the bottom up. What I learned most was - DON'T SWEAT THE PETTY THINGS ... pet the sweaty things. There's more to life than OIL or FILTERS !!!! |
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Posts: 12
| I've always used Shell Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 5w40 in my bikes except on the Vision.
I did my first service at 514 miles using AMSoil 20w50 and a polaris filter.
I'm going to change it soon at 4500 miles and use a KP Engineering billet filter and the Rotella T6.
I've got 4 or 5 gallons of it in the garage for all the other toys. If it works fine after analysis around 6k miles then I'll keep running it and have it tested at 9500 miles. I've had it tested in a VTX with 8k on the oil and it tested good except for a slightly elevated fuel count.
The only negative that I've experienced in the VTX is that it burns a little oil in hot weather and EXTREME STOP-N-GO traffic for long periods of time.
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Posts: 2118 Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Gawd. If you guys loved your WIVES more than you love OIL - the divorce rate would be MUCH less. Happier children. Teachers more pleased with their work. Price of housing would be down. Pension plans would have higher payments.
You OIL FREAKS piss me off !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pay more attention to your WIVES, CHILDREN, PARENTS, DOGS, CATS, even your IN-LAWS !!!
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Posts: 1066 Peru, IN | Doesn't take much to piss you off, does it? It's oil. If you don't want to use a certain brand, don't. If the thread pisses you off, don't read it. |
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Posts: 880 Orlando, FL | Making more popcorn. This is gettin' gud! |
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Posts: 255 New Brunswick , Canada | Ran out of Popcorn....but i'm into the Bourbon now... lol ..lol this gettting good.. ;o) |
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Posts: 208 Edmonton Alberta, Canada | To help everyone to remember, here is the original post.
dadude
Posted 2012-12-21 4:41 PM (#128676)
Subject: Alternative semi ~or~ Full Synthetic Motor Oil Alternatives
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Posts: 6
I reside a great distance from the nearest Victory Store. For that reason I am wondering if anyone could tell me what alternative Motorcycle Oil(s) Brand(s) I may be able to use in my 2008 Victory Vision (other than AMSOIL) which might be easy to obtain at say,.....the local Wal~Mart or Auto Parts Store. Oil Filters also. Thank You Very Much.
We have many on here who have tried and tested many items, not only "oil", this person asked a simple question and as usual the oil thread developed. As members we have many ideas, and "opinions" that we all do not agree on. I personally was not happy with the Vic oil I tried an alternative and am very happy with it. However to preach good and bad, and using the owner manual as the bible is not for me.
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