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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Fellow Riders
I've been toying with the idea of adding a portable DC powered tire air pump to my toolkit. I see 2 advantages of having the pump...1: when the tires need air before heading out for a ride, I can adjust the psi while the tires are cold. 2: when I am on a trip, i don't have to worry if I am out in the boon docks and I need air.
Thoughts?
Does anyone have recommendations for a pump? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Slime |
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Cruiser
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Iowa | Yes, I carry one with me all of the time. Came in handy 2 weeks ago when my buddy had a low tire. We were able to add air and get to a service station for help. |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | varyder...I was looking at the Slime pumps. Which one would you recommend? |
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Iron Butt
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, WI | On long trips I carry an electric tire pump and a Stop & Go tire plugging kit. |
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Cruiser
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New Brunswick , Canada | Got one...allways had one...Tried a SLIME , first time i used it , broken half through the job. (cheap)
Get a good one,,, |
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Puddle Jumper
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Colorado | I use the Slime pump that comes with Slime. I had to use it a few weeks back while in Phoenix, 950 Miles from home. Worked great and very glad I had it saved calling for a tow. |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Lojack....what do you recommend? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I helped a damsel in distress just a few days ago with a car tire on the side of the road with my SLIME, it seemed to work fine, slow, but fine. I enjoyed the conversation while waiting. |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Air ???
Isn't it everywhere ???
I have gone 53 years without a pump. Now I need one???
What a CRUEL world. Why doesn't anyone help me ???
Next thing you know, somebody will be telling me I need to ride with car tires. Life sucks .....
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | now, Don. I carry one to help out others that need one, but it's more convenient for me when I do my monthly check on my tires, or whenever it feels a little squirrely. I don't think I could justify calling AAA to fill my air in my tires, I don't like no one else touching my bike, and that includes my dealer. |
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | Don needs no air pump; he's a gas bag full of hot air ...he he 
Edited by willtill 2013-05-02 4:57 AM
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Cruiser
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Edmonton Alberta, Canada | Before my Grande canyon trip back in 2010 I purchased a tire plug kit that has co2 cartridges for inflating tires. It weighs less that one pound, apprx 3" by 4" x 1 inch thick. Takes up very little space for about $50. I was running older tires which made the trip to the North Rim and back to Salt Lake where I installed new skins. I have never used it, but it was there. Cheap peace of mind. I could not see carrying a lager compressor just incase. Also having an '08 I would have had to have the 12v port adaptor etc.
Just sayin!!! |
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Tourer
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Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | I have a plug kit + extra CO2 cylinders (same size as the small Slime pump)-I've only had to use it to help others so far and I know it works-with the kit and the rear shock hand pump as back up I feel I have it covered. |
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Iron Butt
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Peru, IN | I might have to look into the CO2 tanks. I have a Slime pump but the one time I used it, it didn't seem to do much. At least the gauge on the pump didn't seem to move. It was on my truck and after about 20 minutes, I just took it to the gas station. (I just wanted to see how well it worked.) Either the Slime pump is REALLY slow or it's broken. :shrug: |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 825
, WI | I use an Aero Stich Mini air compressor -
http://www.aerostich.com/tools/tire-repair/pumps-air-compressors/ae... |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 691
Manchester, CT | Thanks Rollin'.... I just checked it out. Based on the description it sounds like it will eliminate the slow performance that Monkeyman had experienced with the slime pump. I also like the compact size. It appears that it doesn't contain a gauge but that's ok because I won't trust it anyways. I can use my digital gauge for that.
If I don't see anymore recommendations I will probably pull the trigger on this one. I may also add a plug/CO2 kit. |
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Iron Butt
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| http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200328573_200328573?...
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slime pump works great for me, I get about 2 psi per minute, but mine has no gauge on it. Have used for 4+ years with no issues. many times of 2-5 psi changes and 2 full tire fill ups. small, compact, doesn't overheat, and no moving parts to get u (i say this cause a budy of mine needed to get 2 stitches while using the aerostich pump after it overheated and he finished with my pump : ) this killed him as he is a BMW guys and cant help but get aroused at all thing BMW and Aerostich.
here is some great info on all such compressors
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286669&page=3
good luck
Edited by jeffmack 2013-05-02 8:16 AM
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | More feedback on the aero stitch pump along with pix of it being stored under the seat....http://www.fjrforum.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=145240 |
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Iron Butt
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| this is basically the same pumps for 9.99 at any walmart or auto store. It is no different, just doesnt come with fancy cover (slime) or bag (aerostich). if I had it to do over again id save the 30.00 and do this.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/Motorcycle-technical-articles/air-pump/
dont think you can go wrong, only bad move is to not have one and wish you did.
Edited by jeffmack 2013-05-02 8:26 AM
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Cruiser
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Bancroft Ontario, Canada | Yes i carry a small pump all the time....i usually travel long trips that cross elevations and climate zones and i like to check air pressure in the mornings before heading out......i also carry a plug kit
Vbear |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Thanks jeffmack! I did find another forum where the heat issue was brought up. It appears that the pump will heat up to the point it could melt the air hose...not sure I want that in my saddlebags even if I let it cool down. |
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Iron Butt
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| I'm getting ready to order the Viair 85p. Is anyone familiar with this unit?
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Hey Turk
Aren't you concerned about the amount of space it will consume in your saddlebag or trunk? 10.7 x 8 x 3.5 inches |
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Iron Butt
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, WI | Street Eagle - 2013-05-02 10:39 AM Hey Turk Aren't you concerned about the amount of space it will consume in your saddlebag or trunk? 10.7 x 8 x 3.5 inches Water cooled?  |
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Iron Butt
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| Street Eagle - 2013-05-02 10:39 AM
Hey Turk
Aren't you concerned about the amount of space it will consume in your saddlebag or trunk? 10.7 x 8 x 3.5 inches
Not sure that it would really take up that much more usable space than one of the more diminutive units. They get great reviews for quality and the amount of air they move. But, this is why I'm asking.... does anyone have one?
Edited by Turk 2013-05-02 11:24 AM
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Puddle Jumper
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Leighton, IA | I always carry a tire pump. It doesn't take much room and is used to maintain my pressure while tires are cold. By the time you ride to a gas station, your tires are warm and I'm pretty anal about the cold pressures I run. So this way I can be accurate and consistent. I've found over many, many years of riding large touring bikes that correct tire pressure is the secret to getting the best performance, reliability and life out of your tires.
BTW, the pump I use is a Slime brand purchased at Walmart. You set the pressure you want and it pumps to that pressure and stops. Works great.
Edited by Rider44 2013-05-02 11:33 AM
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | I also carry the Slime 12 Volt pump and a tire plug kit. It has saved the ride a couple of times.
Don, sometimes the next gas station with an air supply is a long ways off.
One time, on a trip with two other bikes, one of them ran over something that put a sizable hole in the rear tire in Dinosaur Park, Colorado. We plugged the tire (or tried to) and aired it up with the Slime pump. It slowly went flat again as we headed back to town. We stopped and added a second plug, aired it up again, and continued on. Repeat the air up once more before we get to town. No tire shops in the little town. GPS says the closest motorcycle shop of any brand is in Vernal, Utah. We air up (with extra pressure) at the station in town, and head for Vernal. We have to stop and use the little pump several times by the time we get to Vernal, but we made it. We got a new tire installed at the Harley dealer in Vernal.
CO2 cartridges would not have gotten us to Vernal. That little air pump saved the trip.
Anyone who has ever been to Dinosaur Park knows that it is a long ways from anywhere and help is very scarce. No cell phone service either. You're not going to call for a tow truck. You're on your own out there.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2013-05-02 12:19 PM
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Cruiser
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| I carry an electric tire pump and a Stop & Go tire plugging kit. The pump is about 1.5"x4"x4" plus hose. Stumbled on it at Walmarts in Fl. one day. I think it was about $10. Just had to have it. Will do air mattres or tires or (air shock in a pinch) fits in trunk attachment tube. |
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Iron Butt
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, WI | Sometimes the next place for help is - 
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | I do. Its made by slime. It fits into the CD changer compartment |
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Cruiser
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New Brunswick , Canada | I have a BELL model BellAire 3000.It's no mini Barby compressor....works great...had a flat tire in New Orlean in the french Qu...Glad i had it.Had to stop a couple time to put air in it but it got me to the MC shop .. |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | Ditto on slime in the trunk neck. I also have in there a good plug kit and some rubber cement. |
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Does anyone know what the ampere rating is for auxiliary lighter plug is on the Vision?
Lojack, Do you connect the pump directly to the battery? |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | I don't, but I have run the larger 12V compressor I carry in my car for extended periods of time instead of pulling the mini one off the bike.
I think it has to be at least 15 amps. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | I think the accessory socket is fused at 15 amps. The Slime compressor draws 10 or 12 amps. I just use the provided battery clips and clip it directly to the battery. I don't need to risk blowing fuses in addition to dealing with a flat tire. The battery is easy enough to access on a Vision.
I also start the bike before firing up the compressor. It wouldn't take too long to run the battery down with a 10 or 12 amp draw. Getting the tire aired up only to discover you've run the battery down so the bike wouldn't start wouldn't be good.
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Visionary
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Central Maryland | rdbudd - 2013-05-02 6:14 PM
I think the accessory socket is fused at 15 amps. The Slime compressor draws 10 or 12 amps. I just use the provided battery clips and clip it directly to the battery. I don't need to risk blowing fuses in addition to dealing with a flat tire. The battery is easy enough to access on a Vision.
I also start the bike before firing up the compressor. It wouldn't take too long to run the battery down with a 10 or 12 amp draw. Getting the tire aired up only to discover you've run the battery down so the bike wouldn't start wouldn't be good.
Ronnie Ya, that would suck.
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | Not to mention the compressor runs faster with the bike running. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 691
Manchester, CT | Turk....here is the ampere draw for the Vair 85P
PSI 40 14amps
PSI 50 14.5amps
PSI 60 14amps
If the aux port is fused at 15 amp this pump should be fine. There is also an optional adapter (cigarette plug to battery clips)
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Iron Butt
Posts: 612
| Street Eagle - 2013-05-02 10:04 PM
Turk....here is the ampere draw for the Vair 85P
PSI 40 14amps
PSI 50 14.5amps
PSI 60 14amps
If the aux port is fused at 15 amp this pump should be fine. There is also an optional adapter (cigarette plug to battery clips)
I would definitely clip it to the battery. And, according to the dimensions listed for the unit on Amazon, it should just barely fit in the trunk neck.
Edited by Turk 2013-05-03 6:42 AM
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Hey Turk
The dimensions are actually smaller than described on Amazon. Link to the manufacturer's site....
http://www.viaircorp.com/Schematics/85P_dd.pdf |
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Iron Butt
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| Street Eagle - 2013-05-03 8:14 AM
Hey Turk
The dimensions are actually smaller than described on Amazon. Link to the manufacturer's site....
http://www.viaircorp.com/Schematics/85P_dd.pdf
Yup, I saw that! Should fit in the neck just fine. I ordered the 88p (same size as the 85p) and a small bag. Yes, it will draw up to 19 amps, but I never intended to use the cig lighter anyway... it'll clamp directly to the battery, which is always the safest method anyway. It has a much higher duty cycle than any of the cheaper ones, and an extremely fast fill rate.
Edited by Turk 2013-05-03 8:43 AM
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Iron Butt
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Manchester, CT | Hey Turk
I too am going to go with the 88P which is the latest model. Although the footprint is a little larger, I can sacrafice a little extra space for performance!
This thread is another great example of members exchanging input, suggestions which leads to a solution!
Thanks to all my Fellow Riders! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 691
Manchester, CT | Just added the Stop & Go International Pocket Tire Plugger for Tubeless Tires 1000 roadside repair supplies |
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Cruiser
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W'ford Tx | Here's what I've done and I love it. Picked up this thing at walmart for $10. It pegs out at 50 psi but if you follow oem suggestions you won't go at high to 50 anyhows. As you can see it takes up minimal space and runs off of your cig lighter port. I don't use that area of the saddle bag anyhows so it's a complete win for me.
Thin fits perfectly in the space that I never really use anyway. Even has a little emergency led light for those night time inflations.
Edited by goat813 2013-05-03 2:56 PM
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Does anyone carry around a portable electric tire pump?
