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Dale, Indiana | Ok I am adding some LED lights and going to change out all the stock bulbs to LED's.
I did a test and it makes the signal lights nuts (as I figured it would).
I saw somewhere lately were somebody did it and they posted what was needed to make the signals work right ... but I forgot who and where.
LED bulbs don't put enough load on the system therefore it blinks wildly.
I've had the same problem with trucks over the years, but it was easily fixed with an electronic flasher. A Victory Vision bike is a whole different animal!
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Reno County, KS | Yeah, a turn signal flashing relay is current dependent. You'll need something called a "LOAD EQUALIZER" to shunt the circuit and create the necessary load to make the flasher happy. Just as an idea to get you started on your way: http://www.customled.com/PRODUCTS/THE_EQUALIZER/the_equalizer.htm
That link shows a universal set. I am curious though. Most of your bayonette lug LED replacements come with integrated load equalizers. Did you use a direct-replacement type or did you use something more generic?
Another option (and probably easiest) is to use a replacement "low current sensing" flasher relay. I have not seen one advertised specifically for the Vision, but I would imagine that the Vision uses a fairly common flasher, so it would probably be easy to cross reference from your local auto parts store. The advantage would be that it's plug and play. If you don't mind spending some time and setting up a little science project in your garage you can figure out what resistance to add and splice it in. When I was doing my LED swap's for my Star, I used a cheap "0-10 K Ohm potentiometer" I had laying around and dialed it in manually. I just watched for when the signals slowed and finally started to dim, then backed off between the two. Later I replaced the pot with a resistor of the same load and used heat shrink to weather proof it. Cost was about a buck for the resistor because I happened to have the materials. Just something to think about it if you get bored as I often do. | |
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Dale, Indiana | bigwill5150 - 2008-08-23 7:09 PM
Yeah, a turn signal flashing relay is current dependent. You'll need something called a "LOAD EQUALIZER" to shunt the circuit and create the necessary load to make the flasher happy. Just as an idea to get you started on your way: http://www.customled.com/PRODUCTS/THE_EQUALIZER/the_equalizer.htm
That link shows a universal set. I am curious though. Most of your bayonette lug LED replacements come with integrated load equalizers. Did you use a direct-replacement type or did you use something more generic?
Another option (and probably easiest) is to use a replacement "low current sensing" flasher relay. I have not seen one advertised specifically for the Vision, but I would imagine that the Vision uses a fairly common flasher, so it would probably be easy to cross reference from your local auto parts store. The advantage would be that it's plug and play. If you don't mind spending some time and setting up a little science project in your garage you can figure out what resistance to add and splice it in. When I was doing my LED swap's for my Star, I used a cheap "0-10 K Ohm potentiometer" I had laying around and dialed it in manually. I just watched for when the signals slowed and finally started to dim, then backed off between the two. Later I replaced the pot with a resistor of the same load and used heat shrink to weather proof it. Cost was about a buck for the resistor because I happened to have the materials. Just something to think about it if you get bored as I often do.
First off the "customled.com/PRODUCTS/THE_EQUALIZER/the_equalizer." II looks like it would fit the bill.
I'd rather add a electronic Flasher Relay or "low current sensing Flasher like I have on trucks IF I could figure out where the darn thing is hid at on the bike.... and if it's got standard plugs.
Most of your bayonette lug LED replacements come with integrated load equalizers. Did you use a direct-replacement type or did you use something more generic?
I search out a bulb that would fit the socket that has about 20 LED's all around it. As for as a load I guess it has none or it doesn't help.
Didn't buy one yet, just to one out of the box and pluged it in to see what it would do before I bought a box of them.
I did add an extra LED signal light on the sides of my mirrors (point backwards) that work just great.
Edited by Indiana RoadRunner 2008-08-23 10:32 PM
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Dale, Indiana | Oh yeah,
Thanks bigwill5150 for your help.
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Changing out stock bulbs for LED bulbs (signal light problem).