Backrest
metalguy
Posted 2007-11-11 12:54 AM (#1749)
Subject: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
Guys, I am looking for a backrest for my Vision Street. Does any aftermarket companies make them yet? I know Victory has one (out of stock) for the vision, to the tune of about $450. Anyone know of others?
---Metalguy
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-11 8:06 PM (#1759 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Are you looking for the driver backrest or the passenger backrest? I haven't seen one for the driver yet. Wish there was.
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mike s
Posted 2007-11-11 8:11 PM (#1760 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 223
Valdosta, GA
I don't think anyone has anything aftermarket available for the Vision. $450 for the backrest from Vision isn't all that bad. The one for my wife's Volusia was around $500 and I believe the new model is upwards of $600...
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-11 8:31 PM (#1762 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
If that backrest would slide up behind the driver I might even buy that one but it don't.
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WillieByte
Posted 2007-11-11 9:28 PM (#1763 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 104
Plainfield Illinois
here's a picture of a backrest that is right behind the rider....

http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...

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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2007-11-12 7:47 AM (#1766 - in reply to #1763)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Interesting photo, that's not a stock Vision seat. Could it be a Mustang or Corbin prototype?
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WillieByte
Posted 2007-11-12 8:04 AM (#1767 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 104
Plainfield Illinois
Frankly JAM......

I have no idea whatsoever who made the seat nor who owns the pictured Vision. It can't be somethin' *I* dreamed up or it would have been a Midnight Cherry bike. I haven't had a motorcycle in many years. I need a new toy and was lookin at vettes, roadsters, spyders, and then I discovered the Vision online. My search was over at first look. I put a deposit on a Vision at Randy's for a June delivery and have since been driving myself nuts scouring the net for every scrap of info and every image I could find. Since finding this site, I've gone completely over the edge and spend way too many of my waking hours in anticipation. Thanks a lot. Yer partly to blame.

...they're coming to take me AWAY haha.....

WillieByte

Edited by WillieByte 2007-11-12 8:07 AM
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sjavera
Posted 2007-11-12 8:53 AM (#1768 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: RE: Backrest


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 47
Lake Park, GA
You know ... that kinda looks like a Rick Mayer seat. I wonder if someone sent a stock seat in for him to "modify" The texture of the seat bottom looks like his work.
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mike s
Posted 2007-11-12 5:02 PM (#1780 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 223
Valdosta, GA
More shots of the same seat...

http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...
http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...

Anyone know a dealer in Minnesota?

Edited by mike s 2007-11-12 5:06 PM
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VisionTex
Posted 2007-11-12 5:57 PM (#1781 - in reply to #1780)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
With the Minnesota plate on it I'm thinking this is a factory prototype seat that we may see in the near future. All the plates on the test ride Vision motorcycles are Minnesota plates.
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mike s
Posted 2007-11-13 12:21 PM (#1794 - in reply to #1781)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 223
Valdosta, GA
VisionTex - 2007-11-12 5:57 PM

With the Minnesota plate on it I'm thinking this is a factory prototype seat that we may see in the near future. All the plates on the test ride Vision motorcycles are Minnesota plates.


You may be on to something here. From the reflections on the bags, it appears these shot were taken in a very large parking area, with at least 3 other Visions in attendance.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-13 12:38 PM (#1796 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I think I am gonna pass on the Victory passenger backrest. I may fabricate my own. I can do it in stainless and totally custom for way less.
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lowtone9
Posted 2007-11-13 3:00 PM (#1799 - in reply to #1796)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 140
metalguy - 2007-11-13 11:38 AM

I think I am gonna pass on the Victory passenger backrest. I may fabricate my own. I can do it in stainless and totally custom for way less.


When you do, take some pics. There might be a few people willing to make it worth your while to do more.
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-13 3:22 PM (#1800 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Will there be a way to extend it toward the driver and use it solo. That's what I need. Seems like we could use the same mounting location for the tourpac and fabricate from that attaching point, without having to cut into the seat. HMMMM
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-13 3:47 PM (#1803 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I was thinking about that...I wonder, just how does the "stock" backrest attach? I know the finishing panel still is in place, so does it come out from under the rear of the seat? I definately don't want to mod that panel if I don't have to. And yes, when I make it, not only will I take pics, I will make more than one! I will also be making some risers for the passenger floorboards, too. I will need some taller than 1.5" for the G/F
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VisionTex
Posted 2007-11-13 6:51 PM (#1804 - in reply to #1803)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
I was just looking at the online catalog and the combined backrest and luggage rack is $850. Victory is really proud of those two items. Getting the trunk for the Street is only another $450. Just from the pictures of the backrest, it looks like it is bolted to the frame behind the seat somehow, it does not look like it is bolted to the seat pan like the Kingpin.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-13 7:52 PM (#1806 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
Yah, the trunk is what I have on order, but was thinking a backrest for her while I wait would be good. They seem very proud of their add-ons, for sure! I do plan on getting all their chrome trinkets available, and when I take off my pieces, I will see about powdercoating them all black, as I have the set up for that at home, then installing them to see what a blacked out look would do for my black cherry premium.
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VisionTex
Posted 2007-11-14 8:03 AM (#1812 - in reply to #1806)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
metalguy, I'm also doing some special paint on the bike when I get it, and it does include the silver trim parts, they stand out way too much for my taste.
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-14 8:06 AM (#1813 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
metalguy where you located, if you don't mind update your profile to show either state town etc.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-14 3:00 PM (#1833 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I am in Washington State, land of rain. (At least on the West side of the state) I work for the Air Force as a Civilian (civil service) And am in the Reserves, but prolly not for long, as I am thinking retirement from that. I want my weekends for me nowadays.
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-14 3:36 PM (#1835 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I lived in Oak Harbor on Whidbey Island from around 1997-2001. Working for the Navy as a Civ. was in the Reserves but bailed wanted my weekends all to me lonesome. Wasn't close to retirement either. Really was wondering if you were close enough i could get in on that backrest. I like the looks of the street, but to take the wife need the tour pak. My old KZ1000 1977 model had a sissy bar, luggage rack that was adjustable. Basically it bolted out next to the shock mounts had a little platform (luggage rack), then it had a back pad that could slide all the way up to the driver off of two sliding poles that you hand tightened down to the distance forward you wanted. I liked it seemed easy to redo.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-14 5:11 PM (#1840 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I will sit down, take the seat off, and REALLY look into this over a weekend, and see just how I want to proceed. My only hitch is finding out how to mount the thing. Making it will be the easy part! I just don't want to mess up any other portion of the bike. Once I can figure an easy way to mount it SECURELY, the rest will just be comfort, and looks. I want to get into making custom stuff for Visions, as I find things that will suit me, and then perfect them so others can get them cheaper than factory, once i test them.
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-14 5:28 PM (#1841 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I don't see why you couldn't pull the same plate where the tourpak goes and attach there. Just make a small metal cover painted black or chrome.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-14 6:02 PM (#1843 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I could make a cover like that, but I would then want it painted to match, and I don't paint! I only powdercoat stuff because it is pretty much impossible to mess up! I am great with metal, but crap with stuff like paint.
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2007-11-14 9:46 PM (#1846 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
pls keep us informed of everything you make for the Vision. There are many of us out here that would rather keep our $ in the group instead of sending it off to Victory/Polaris. Luke
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pollolittle
Posted 2007-11-14 10:15 PM (#1847 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Maybe we work something out, I have connections to a very good painter. Now, just need a good shipper.
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metalguy
Posted 2007-11-15 10:22 AM (#1880 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I will keep you posted, ok? I am just riding too much to tear into it yet. But I will! And this board will be the first to know!!!
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mike s
Posted 2007-11-19 10:22 PM (#2054 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 223
Valdosta, GA
So I get a call tonight from Victory concerning an issue I'm having with my handlebar volume control switch changing my radion stations and I ask him about the seat pictured earlier in this thread. After I described it to him, he knew exactly what I was talking about. He has ridden the bike with tat seat on it. Seems Victory is testing out a couple of different seat designs and we should see something soon. The biggest hurdle to getting a seat like that to market, though, is demand.

It doesn't make sense for Vic to produce an upgraded seat when the current seat is already so comfortable. It's gonna take some phone calls if you want to see a seat with a driver's backrest option. Let your dealers know you're interested and have them call VIc to see if they're working on it!!!
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devilboy
Posted 2007-11-19 11:01 PM (#2063 - in reply to #2054)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida
Bike desperately needs a Back rest. Seat is comfortable BUT not as comfortable as everyone raves.
I have 4700 miles and my butt starts getting sore about 100 miles into ride and have to stop by 150......
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hdjoe
Posted 2008-02-06 10:49 PM (#4986 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 5
North of Phoenix, AZ
I have over 500 miles on mine - and love it. The seat is the best stock seat I've ever sat on. True, I haven't gone over 150 miles at one "sitting", but no pain at all! And, I just got my hip replaced late last April.
I too would love a backrest - this getting old thing comes with back laziness! I'm visiting a custom seat guy this weekend to see what he thinks can be done. Let's keep up the chatter so we Vic to offer one. Can't believe that wasn't part of their opening offering.
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TimS
Posted 2008-02-06 10:54 PM (#4988 - in reply to #2063)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Iron Butt

Posts: 810

Marc,

I am catching up to you.  I should break 5,000 by the end of the weekend.  My longest day so far is 600+ and the roids didn't scream at all !!! =)

Tim 

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Spock
Posted 2008-02-06 11:29 PM (#4993 - in reply to #2054)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

mike s - 2007-11-19 9:22 PM So I get a call tonight from Victory concerning an issue I'm having with my handlebar volume control switch changing my radion stations and I ask him about the seat pictured earlier in this thread. After I described it to him, he knew exactly what I was talking about. He has ridden the bike with tat seat on it. Seems Victory is testing out a couple of different seat designs and we should see something soon. The biggest hurdle to getting a seat like that to market, though, is demand. It doesn't make sense for Vic to produce an upgraded seat when the current seat is already so comfortable. It's gonna take some phone calls if you want to see a seat with a driver's backrest option. Let your dealers know you're interested and have them call VIc to see if they're working on it!!!

Utopia products who make the best backrests on the market for many bikes including the Gold Wings has just completed a backrest for the Victory Vision and it looks really sweat. I have ridden many bikes with different backrests and the Utopia is the most comfortable backrest I have ever used. It works with the Vision stock seat and is easy to install and costs only $215.00. They will have some pictures of it posted on their website in a couple of days. www.utpr.com

There are probably over two dozen backrests made for the Gold Wings yet most Gold Wing riders will tell you the Utopia backrest is the best on the market. I’ll bet you won’t see a better backrest option for the Vision in years to come if ever.

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devilboy
Posted 2008-02-07 5:02 AM (#5000 - in reply to #4988)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida
TimS - 2008-02-06 10:54 PM

Marc,

I am catching up to you.  I should break 5,000 by the end of the weekend.  My longest day so far is 600+ and the roids didn't scream at all !!! =)

Tim 


Tim- I am currently at about 7K. I have lost 2 weeks riding due to exhaust update(S1L1) VFC III,
Lloydz air diffuser, and Dyno tuning.(courtesy of KevinX) Aluminum Panel color change is in the works(original plan was anodizing black) but aluminum panels are currently being painted super Hi-Gloss Black (courtesy Scott @Conquest Customs). Panel Removal is Major Undertaking-especially front shrouds around Motor(with lighted Victory Logos).
Pix to folllow upon completion.
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graybeard
Posted 2008-02-07 3:36 PM (#5023 - in reply to #1749)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 177
NW Illinois
Will the utopia backrest mount with the stock seat, if so will seat need to be modified, what additional costs would that be
Just asking
Waiting on pictures nothing on there web sight yet
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Spock
Posted 2008-02-07 5:15 PM (#5027 - in reply to #5023)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

graybeard - 2008-02-07 2:36 PM Will the utopia backrest mount with the stock seat, if so will seat need to be modified, what additional costs would that be Just asking Waiting on pictures nothing on there web sight yet

The Utopia backrest works with the stock seats whether you have the heated seat or not. If you go to this link on their website http://www.utpr.com/installation.html you will see how easy it is to mount the backrest on the seat. The backrest for the Vision will mount very similarly to how it does on the Gold Wing seat which is shown on this webpage.  

It will probably be tomorrow of this weekend before they have the pictures up but you can get a real good idea of what it will look like front the other pictures on their site.

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Mudge
Posted 2008-02-07 5:35 PM (#5029 - in reply to #5027)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
I got my seat and the new Utopia backrest back from Bob this afternoon. We had a concern about underseat clearance which turned out to be baseless, the seat mouted fine with more clearance for the bracket than I would have thought just going by measurements and estimates. The backrest looks very good, and more important, very comfortable. I didn't try it out since the bike is up on lift. They should be available for order very quickly now since the prototype is done. I took a couple of photos when the battery in my camera died. As soon as I get it charged up I'll post some photos and send them to Bob for the Utopia website. He was great to do business with and I hope some of you guys will benefit.
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Spock
Posted 2008-02-07 7:39 PM (#5037 - in reply to #5029)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX
Thanks again Mike for all your efforts!! This will benefit many of us including myself greatly. Just think you are the first Vision owner in the world to have a backrest and Utopia is the first company to make a backrest for the Vision.
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Mudge
Posted 2008-02-07 8:46 PM (#5038 - in reply to #5037)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
I put a couple of photos in the gallery.
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-03-24 12:32 PM (#7240 - in reply to #5038)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Got my backrest on Thrusday, put it on on Friday, rode 300 miles on Saturday, NICE!!!!
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Spock
Posted 2008-03-24 4:09 PM (#7242 - in reply to #7240)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX
I got my Utopia Products backrest in last Wednesday and installed it that night. It only took about 20 minutes to install and was easy and straight forward. I have put about 750 miles on it so far and it is really comfortable. This is a no brainer purchase in my opinion.
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Travelin Man
Posted 2008-03-24 9:06 PM (#7249 - in reply to #1763)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Iron Butt

Posts: 721
WillieByte - 2007-11-11 8:28 PM

here's a picture of a backrest that is right behind the rider....

http://www.raptorsandrockets.com/images/Victory/08_Victory_Vision_l...


This appears to be a seat made by Russel Day Long..........I might be wrong, but theirs generally have the same pattern and "cushyness" as pictured.

Here is their website:

http://www.day-long.com/
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alberts46
Posted 2008-03-24 9:21 PM (#7251 - in reply to #7242)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 152
Bonita Springs, FL
How much was the backrest and how do you order it? I assume you have to cut a hole in the existing leather, does that show very much or do they supply something to make it look neater.
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Travelin Man
Posted 2008-03-25 7:00 AM (#7262 - in reply to #4993)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Iron Butt

Posts: 721
Spock - 2008-02-06 10:29 PM

Utopia products who make the best backrests on the market for many bikes including the Gold Wings has just completed a backrest for the Victory Vision and it looks really sweat. I have ridden many bikes with different backrests and the Utopia is the most comfortable backrest I have ever used. It works with the Vision stock seat and is easy to install and costs only $215.00. They will have some pictures of it posted on their website in a couple of days. www.utpr.com

There are probably over two dozen backrests made for the Gold Wings yet most Gold Wing riders will tell you the Utopia backrest is the best on the market. I'll bet you won't see a better backrest option for the Vision in years to come if ever.



The real reasons the Utopia is the most purchased, as well as it's knock offs, is that 1) it doesn't use side rails that interfere with the passenger leg placement, and, 2) It's MUCH LESS expensive than getting a replacement seat with a slide in driver backrest (yeah, many of my fellow Goldwing riders are pretty cheap bastards to boot as well!) such as a Travelcade or Corbin. That said, I have both a stock seat for my Goldwing with a Utopia with the removable option, and a newer low milage Travelcade with driver backrest that is sitting on the shelf (it moved me back but took room away from my SO.) that I am selling once my new Black Tour Premium comes in.
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-03-25 8:28 AM (#7263 - in reply to #7251)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
alberts46 - 2008-03-24 8:21 PM

How much was the backrest and how do you order it? I assume you have to cut a hole in the existing leather, does that show very much or do they supply something to make it look neater.


I'll post a picture of the bracket through the seat cover tonight.

Edited by VisionTex 2008-03-25 8:30 AM
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Spock
Posted 2008-03-25 2:31 PM (#7280 - in reply to #7251)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

alberts46 - 2008-03-24 8:21 PM How much was the backrest and how do you order it? I assume you have to cut a hole in the existing leather, does that show very much or do they supply something to make it look neater.

The Utopia Backrest is $215.00 and you can order it from Utopia Products. Their website is www.utpr.com and their phone number is on the site. Ask for Bob and tell him Craig Edland sent you.  

You have to cut a 1.5" long slit in the leather and they have a boot that goes around this cut that the bracket goes in. It is really clean, easy to install and looks great. This is the most comfortable backrest I have ever sat against. This is the perfect solution for the Vision.

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Lifeisgood
Posted 2008-03-25 4:24 PM (#7284 - in reply to #7280)
Subject: Re: Backrest


Cruiser

Posts: 115
Victoria, BC
I had Rick Mayer install a Utopia Backrest when he rebuilt my seat for my Burgman 650 (installed it for free). What a great product - well built & so comfortable. No more slouching. http://gallery.mac.com/reg_page#100063/IMG_0794_2&bgcolor=black

It will be the first accessory that will be added to my Vision.

Cheers,
Reg

http://www.rickmayercycle.com/


Edited by Lifeisgood 2008-03-25 4:43 PM
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