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Cruiser
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Colorado | Jeff and Miles please forgive me if I placed this announcement in the wrong forum...To make this offering relevant to the Vision riders not in Colorado I have two questions...Has anyone attempted to take the Experienced Rider Course on a Vision? Would you?
The Colorado Victory Ride Coordinators in conjunction with Wheels In Motion have teamed together to provide you an opportunity to continue your Motorcycling education by attending a Victory only Experienced Rider Course at a very low $65.00 dollars per rider. This course requires a RSVP due by March 31st to info@c-vra. The dates and details will be released based on particpation, currently April 11th and May 16th are reserved for Victory riders. For additional details please visit www.C-VRA.com.
Experienced Rider Course Details:
You'll discuss with your instructor and peers how to
balance the mental and physical aspects of safe riding
manage risk
increase visibility
optimize your lane position.
covers protective gear,
rider responsibility
motorcycle inspection and care
effects of alcohol and other drugs on riding
includes a skills evaluation and knowledge test
exercises will range from one-handed weaving
normal stopping procedures
quick stops
limited space maneuvers
surmounting obstacles
cornering judgement and proper timing for cornering or matching the tempo of the road
The speeds of the ERC are relatively low; if a rider can effectively maneuver their motorcycle at lower speeds, it demonstrates overall competency. Coaching riders to master proper riding techniques.
Group discussions between every other exercise ensures that all participants are actively engaged and learning the proper mindset for riding and surviving on the streets (and having fun!).
You must wear protective gear as follows:
DOT approved full or 3/4 helmet & eye protection
Full-fingered gloves
Long sleeved shirt or jacket
Long pants
Sturdy, over-the-ankle footwear
Class size is limited to 10 students
ERC OUTLINE:
5 to 6 hour course
All range-work - no classroom
ERC exercises are performed on your own motorcycle.
You must provide your own street-legal, registered, insured and inspected motorcycle (you will need to provide your motorcycle registration and insurance card and your bike must pass the Rider Coaches' pre-course safety check)
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Tourer
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Regina Saskatchewan Canada | I would love to attend the Experienced Rider Course but I don't plan on being in Colorado until the beginning of August. |
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Tourer
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Northeastern Penna. | I took the experienced rider course in June 08 on my 06 Yamaha 1100. The only hard part was
the figure 8 in a relatively small outlined box area.Now with my newly acquired Vision, I probably
couldn't accomplish that without a lot of practice. The beginners and experienced courses, at least
what I took here in Penna. are very similar. |
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Iron Butt
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Western WA | I'm taking a similar course here in Washington in April. I think the Vision will do just fine.
I would love to see a Victory Riders sponsored class here in the NW. |
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Cruiser
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Rapid City, SD | I have taken the experienced course twice. Once on my old Jackpot and this past year on a loaner Vision. The Vision handled the course with no problems and even the instructor commented on how agile the bike was. He was surprised I was able to make it do the things it did. And that was with very little seat time on the Vision. Mine was on the way but it hadn't arrived yet.
Anyway if anyone is thinking about it I would recommend it. Always better performing these manuevers on your daily ride. That way you know your limitations and the bikes capabilities in a controlled environment.
Sorry I will not be in CO during that time but that sounds like a great price for the course. If anyone is nearby you should consider it. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Yes, I took the ERC here at Fort Lee, Va, free. That is one of the perks of being an old retired paratrooper. Since the Vision is a little larger than I anticipated, I did well, but not perfect. I think I could do a lot better now after a solid 15 months of riding. Anyway, while I was thinking I was doing a very poor job at the course, a gentleman that was observing came up and asked how I did I make it through the course so easy. He said he had a Goldwing and wanted to take the course but knew he couldn't do it, and the Vision being such a big bike I made it look easy. Anyway, I also recommend that prior to actually attending the course, find out what you will learn and then practise those things. It will have a deeper impact when the instructor provides even more insight as to why you need to know such manuevers. Great course, everyone should take this at least once every two years. My next step is ride like a pro, I need the stability as I get older.... |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | double post, ignore....
Edited by varyder 2009-02-17 6:03 PM
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Cruiser
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Rapid City, SD | I am taking the course to be an instructor this spring. I hear the instructor course is pretty grueling. They don't allow any mistakes. Should be interesting. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 49
west bend, wi | Yes! I take the course every two years or so. Last year was the first year on the Vision. What a difference! Sure was a lot more fun than on the Harleys and got a lot more looks and comments too! |
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Cruiser
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Hartland, , WI | Crawford - 2009-02-17 2:11 PM
I would love to attend the Experienced Rider Course but I don't plan on being in Colorado until the beginning of August.
My old college roomate Bruce heads up the Sate of Virginia Motorcycle Safety Training Program and emailed him on the topic of Experience Rider Courses and he said not only does his state of VA have them but he thought every state does.
So below are some websites to help you out including one from my state.
From Wisconsin http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/safety/vehicle/motorcycle/index.htm
National-find your training center Motorcycle Safety Foundation http://www.msf-usa.org/
National Association of State Motorcycle Safety Administrators http://www.smsa.org/
Bruce also went for a week to Germany to ride the Alps and it was a BMW trip. He was the only one to reserved an LT and had a group of 12 americans. The tour leader of the group just flew and would leave the pack behind and then waits for them down the road. Bruce didn't know this and the leader takes off with him following on his LT...(the leader hates americans that come over and rent LT's because they take forever)....the guy checks out only to stop 20 minutes later to wait for the group left behind and there is Bruce with the LT.
The leader in broken english is amazed both that he kept up and on a touring bike and gave Bruce a nice compliment...americans never can keep up with him. Bruce said that when he stopped his body was soaking wet with perspiration and thought if this whole week was gonna be like this...F*** This and catch the next plane home...this was one expensive week long mistake...he had just followed the leader for 20 minutes, never getting out of 2nd gear and living at 8000 on the tac and throwing the bike all over these 25 mph turn afer turn. I loved the story as I had an LT and know how they handle and how strong the engines are and that's why he told me.
So I asked Bruce today if he has every ridden the Dragons Tail...it isn't all to far from him and he said he knows all about it but hasn't run it...however he did tell me the leader from his trip said he had and that his 7 day trip, 5 of the days were going to be riding the Alps all day...the leader thought the Dragons Tail was tame compaired to the mountain riding they do everyday.
Bruce is an ERC instructor and lives on a bike...an HD Ultra Classic...(I know)...and really can ride! He also said the european riders are Freakin Nuts the way they drive...but are unreal good!
I'll be seeing Bruce this summer in Madison when he comes up for a convention on his HD and will being going down to Richmond on my Vision...I told him I love my Vision beyond belief so comfortable, etc. and he can't hardly believe I left the multicyclinder world for a "go slow look at me bike". Bruce will love my bike...he's not tall and will be amazed at the low seat and handling.
Bruce also said that they tend to divide up the classes between us big ol fairing riders and the sport bikes to make the classes more fun.
Anyway...look for a ERC course in your area! 
Edited by Vinner1 2009-02-18 5:01 PM
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Tourer
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Centennial, CO | Just dropped a note asking for more information as I will be attending this course if I can work out the timing.
THANK YOU for posting this! |
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Cruiser
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Hartland, , WI | Hey JAM:
Maybe this could be a link you add to the website as a resource...if other riders dig this info and courses? Easy website to navigate and figure out!
Nice resource website.........http://www.msf-usa.org/
Specific to Experience Rider Course: http://www.msf-usa.org/index_new.cfm?pagename=RiderCourse%20Info&co...
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Cruiser
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Boydsville, AR United States | I take the ERC every spring. It is a great tuneup just before the riding season begins. I'm an ABATE dist Rep, so I realy push the ERC. This spring will be the first for the Vic. I should do well, as I bought it in August, and have 5,000 miles on her. I feel better knowing that others have taken it and passed. Previous bike was a 03 Kawasaki 1500 Drifter, and that bike would do a perfect score. The Vic should do even better. |
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Visionary
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| While you wait for the class you may find some interesting reading at this site.
http://www.msgroup.org/forums/mtt/ |
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CO-ERC Course