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Cruiser
Posts: 171
San Antonio, Texas | OK, for all you who have taken the advanced rider MSF course--was it really helpful, did you acquire any new skills, reinforce old ones or just generally rehash everything you picked up in the Basic Rider Course? I think I want to take the Advanced course, but I have a hard time imagining riding the "box" on my Vision. That was OK on someone else's 250, but I really don't want to drop or drag my beauty. I know that my full-lock turns need some practice. | |
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Visionary
Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN | Magic, I recommend that course, I just took the Advanced course and could do the box inside of 20 feet, the innermost two lines. It really isn't that tough, mind over matter. Best part about it, if you drop it at 5mph, you damage nothing. The Memory Maker 1 was spot on and I was running circles around anybody else in the class. I would have loved to have taken it with crotch rocket guys, just to show them how to do it. Turning your head and looking where you want to go and up. The farther you dip in to the turn, just let go of the clutch a little quicker to stand it back up. I got very good at dragging the pegs even in the box. I wound up dragging about a 1/2 inch off the highway pegs, have a picture to prove it. Should have raised them, even though I wouldn't have been able to get much further over. I had the most fun that one day on my bike, just riding it like it was a race bike. The instructors said we could go as fast as we wanted to so long as our pucker factor could handle it. I just kept getting faster. I keep trying to take a Harley guy over and he's also worried about the box and whether he can do it. Anybody that is military affiliated can of course take it at the base for free, normally.
Edited by pollolittle 2009-05-19 1:58 PM
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Tourer
Posts: 329
scotts valley, California | So you are using the clutch slipping, brake dragging method, as taught in Ride Like a Pro, in your short radius turns???
I really want to get through this mental block I'm dealing with.
In the ride like a pro class, one of the drills was to start from a dead stop with the bars locked hard over. It was like diving off of the high board for the very first time. A lot of hesitation followed by a sucessful first attempt........... but I was riding THEIR bike. | |
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Tourer
Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States | I cannot stress enough to have a good instructor. One that seems comfortable and experienced. I have a friend who teaches the Advanced course, and I hardly recall a conversation with him where I didn't learn something, or think about something I hadn't thought about before, and I've been riding for nearly 35 years.
Also, while all knowledge is helpful, you might want to consider what type of riding you do. While Ride Like A Pro makes low speed maneuvering a breeze in parking lots, u-turns and heavy traffic in general, it was the MSF instruction that prevented me from going over a cliff when I took a corner too hot and the bike started to slide out from under me due to some light sand I didn't see.
Not always, but when it comes to motorcycle safety and training, there's no such thing as too much.
And, if nothing else, you get to meet new riders and help set a good example, and help show the newbies that the training doesn't stop when they leave the class. | |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 639
Tri Cities, WA | I took the advance course back in 05/06 and it really helped break me of some bad habit. I recommend that every rider take the course atleast once every 3 to 5 years to help brush up on stuff you may have forgettten about or habits you tend to get into over time. Good luck. | |
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MSF--Advanced Rider Course