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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | Had a Corbin seat for 2 days, my back didn't agree with it, sold it.
But my Arse doesn't tolerate the stock seat, after an 90 minutes, its dying to get off. Either I don't have enough meat there, or the rest of you have a higher pain tolerance than I. LOL
Joking aside, I've heard rumours that Travelcade makes the Ness leather seat. I had a Travelcade Road Sofa on my old HD and had no problem doing 14 hr days on it. I don't think the Ness seat has the same gel padding as the Road Sofa, and it has no heat, something I need in the Great White North.
Any other ideas or Manufacturers out there?
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Visionary
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Memphis | Russell Day Long Saddles. You send them a sideview of yourself on your bike (positioned exactly how and where you want to sit), include your weight and they build a custom fit just for you. I ordered two of these for my son and I when we did the Continental Divide on KLR-650's. My seat was more padded and the "bucket" was farther back than my 16 year old son's. We had a couple of 14 hour days and the seat was never an issue except when I'd realize I'd been on it for over 12 hours and hadn't thought about it. You can also get the rear custom set up for your co-pilot. You have to send away your original seat pan so you may want to try to find a seat deal online to send off so you don't lose down time on the bike. Yours would probably be their first Vision. Highest possible recommendation. Great company. http://www.day-long.com/index.html |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | Hi SongFan
Always heard good about the Russell Seats, but never tried one, if I don't find something this riding season, I may send them my stock seat this winter if they are interested.
thanks
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | 1. The Ness seat SUCKS the padding is awful and and feels like you are sitting on a cheap stock seat that is just covered with pretty leather
2. To sit on the stitched A N on the seat simply isnt worth the expense. It surprised me when i went to look at the Ness vision how much more $$ it was and how much worse some of the "extras" were. Totally not worth the money to have Arlens name on it.
There are a couple really good seat modification people out there who can take your stock seat and turn it into a roving barco lounger seat. Ive done it twice before at a cost that is much less than buying a Corbin or some other brand where you are paying for someones name. My favorite seat was a foam core with a gel top layer. That was on my ST1300. Im still surprised that someone thinks the stock Vision seat is uncomfortable. Makes me wonder whats wrong with their butt, instead of whats wrong with the seat. But bottom line an unhappy heiney will scream at the end of the day, so do what you need just DONT OVER PAY for a name.
If you want the name of a great seat modification guy, email me and I will hook you up. The guy takes about a week to rebuild and ship back to you your own seat. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Sheepskin. SHEEPSKIN. For gosh sakes people - just use a sheepskin. A nice one looks good, is easy to stow, keeps the seat cool in the sun and keeps your pampered ass from NUMB-BUM. This is advice from a guy who gets numb-bum who has owned stock seats, Corbin and others. This is advice from a guy who has spent extensive time in the hospital in bed. JUST TRY ONE - OK???? |
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | I know a lot of people like sheepskin... I tried it... once...... after about 30 minutes..... well, it's on the side of the road in Virginia someplace.... hated the feel, didn't like that it changed my riding position... just really didn't like it...
HOWEVER... For MANY people it is the perfect solution, certainly for the cost... worth a try.
I'm 6'4... and about 280 (when I did my test ride).. The Vision seat is absolutely the most comfortable seat I have ever felt on my arse...
One, critical and often overlooked issue, is what you are wearing for pants. Once I stopped wearing Jeans my distance-before-butt-hurt went from a few hours.. to a a FEW DAYS!!!! |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Wow, i find this hard to believe, Im 6' 235lbs and rode my bike from just north of Miami to just north of Atlanta one day, and the next rode from Atlanta to just south of Chicago. without any issues with the stock seat at all. |
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Cabot Arkansas | Wow I think the stock seat is the most comfortable one I have ever sat on,my wife and I just finished a 6 day 2800 mile ride on our new Vision's with several daylight to dark riding days and we both rave about how comfortable the seats are.I came off a Jackpot with a gunfighter seat and my wife came off a Kingpin with the Ness seat.We had ridden many 600 mile days on those bikes but we felt like it at the end of each day,however after 600 miles a day on the Vision's we both feel like we can ride another 600.If there is a more comfortable seat out there it must be pretty dang amazing.YMMV |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | Well, I am also 6'4", 205 lbs with a beer belly and a boney butt. Come to think of it, where I felt the pressure points was were the pockets were sewn on the back side of the jeans.
Miles, what are you wearing instead of jeans?
I also feel the ridge of the Utopia backrest against my tailbone, it's like the foam has puckered the seat.
I leave for a 5K trip in 4 wks with the guys, followed by a week of rest and another 4K ride with the wife.
I'm thinking gel pads to get me through
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O'Neill, Nebraska | After 10k miles the stock seat is great; and I added the sheepskin covers for both the rider and passenger. It adds a nice look to bike and feels great. The pair of covers was about $120 and the are quickly removable with the snaps that are included. They basically strap underneath the seat. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Fordland,Mo | My 2cents , Took My Wallet Out Of My Pocket, Made A Big Differance.. |
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Iron Butt
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, FL United States | Miles - 2009-05-23 12:06 AM
One, critical and often overlooked issue, is what you are wearing for pants. Once I stopped wearing Jeans my distance-before-butt-hurt went from a few hours.. to a a FEW DAYS!!!!
OK that may be my problem. What do you ride in instead of denim jeans? |
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | Well glad you asked... I made an investment in a pair of Leather Motorcycle pants. They are not full-on racing pants, but essentially the same build. The company http://www.adleathers.com/ makes suits for racing teams, but they do custom work also. I wanted something that would be comfortable but that didn't look like I just got off the track or just come from a Village People concert. So they took my favorite jeans, made some measurements on me. The result was a nice set of leather pants but the KEY is the design. There are panels that they glue in that cover all seams on the inside on the hips, butt, and knees. A thin mesh wicking liner is on the inside of that. I'd wear these pants 24 x 7 as they are the most comfortable pants I own, keeping me warm in the winter and cool in the summer. I can also kneel down on jagged gravel and not even feel it, sit down on a cold rock on the side of the road and eat lunch comfortably.
As I said, and as someone pointed out... It's the seams of Jeans that are usually the culprit in uncomfortable riding. I sometimes wear my Cargo pants (Bills Khaki's) when I ride. Again, the way they are designed, there are no seams protruding inward. Bill's are done "old school" like all mens trousers used to be done, with the material folded back fo "letting out" rather than leaving no extra that in turn leaves a hard ridge on all the seams. Try riding with any pair of slacks, other than Jeans, and I'm almost sure you'll never wear Jeans on a bike again. I do for short, around town stuff cause it doesn't matter... but if I'm going any distance at all.... an hour or so... it's my riding pants. Oh yeah... and if I come off the bike... I'm not going to get all tore up.
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Iron Butt
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New York State | Try naked you get great air flow .Dust the seat cover with talcum powder otherwise you will stick to it |
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Tourer
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | It's been so long since I've put a wallet in my back pocket I forgot about that one.. Yes indeedy.. I grabbed this off a website..
Piriformis syndrome
Main article: Piriformis syndrome
In 15% of the population, the sciatic nerve runs through the piriformis muscle rather than beneath it. When the muscle shortens or spasms due to trauma, it can compress or strangle the sciatic nerve beneath the muscle.
[1]This cause of sciatic symptoms is piriformis syndrome. This may be the major cause of sciatica when the nerve root is normal.
[2] The risk of self-inflicted sciatica has increased in recent years with the fashion trend of lower-hanging trousers as well as lower-positioning of the pockets. For instance, sitting on a wallet for prolonged hours every day can cause self-inflicted sciatica.
[3] Symptoms of numbness and/or pain behind the knee cap are associated with this form of sciatica. |
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guelph ontario | No accounting for all of the different asses and what they like. Like Miles, I am a big guy-6'3" and 320lbs. Never had the stock seat on. I like the Corbin and find it supportive and roomey. For long trips I sometimes use a jelly pad and sheepskin-find it helps and the additional height for the riding position also helps out my knees. Brian-try an english saddle. CU on the 5th of June at Peak. |
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Northeastern Penna. | I absolutely feel as though the stock Vision seat is extremely comfortable. The vast majority feel
the same, however, there never was a product where 100% of the consumers were satisfied. |
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Cottage Grove, Mn | candubrain - 2009-05-22 7:08 PM
Had a Corbin seat for 2 days, my back didn't agree with it, sold it.
But my Arse doesn't tolerate the stock seat, after an 90 minutes, its dying to get off. Either I don't have enough meat there, or the rest of you have a higher pain tolerance than I. LOL
Joking aside, I've heard rumours that Travelcade makes the Ness leather seat. I had a Travelcade Road Sofa on my old HD and had no problem doing 14 hr days on it. I don't think the Ness seat has the same gel padding as the Road Sofa, and it has no heat, something I need in the Great White North.
Any other ideas or Manufacturers out there?
In the car business they say that there is a ass for every seat and a seat for every ass. you'll just have to keep looking for your's. |
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Carrollton, TX | I am surprised to see this thread. The stock seat on the Vision is more comfortable than any seat I have ridden on in all the years I have been riding. I have had Corbin and Mustang seats on my other bikes and the stock Vision seat is more comfortable than any of them. I did get a sheepskin cover made by Sheepskin Factory in Denver, CO. They also made me a cover for my Utopia backrest and they are really nice in the hot summer. They look great and have clips to remove quickly. The heated seat also works with the sheepskin covers. They have all the measurments for the Vision and make them for you quickly. The rider seat and the Utopia backrest cover cost about $85.00 for their top of the line product. I have over 31,000 miles on my Vision in just over 13 months and I have done 1,438 miles on 24 hours and never had to re-adjust myself in the seat. |
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| I'm sittingn here laughing. I just came back from a relatively tame 2 day 700 mile trip and my butt is killing me. the seat on the ultra was definately more comfortable. 700 mile days one after the other on that. it's me not the vic i know that because most love it. tomorrow is another 300 miles to the Wall and back. seriously thinking about aftermarket. maybe i'll find some sheep skin tomorrow.
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New Bohemia, VA | Hmmmmmmm, fasinating. My sig says what I say about the matter.
Edited by varyder 2009-05-23 9:08 PM
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada |
In the car business they say that there is a ass for every seat and a seat for every ass. you'll just have to keep looking for your's.
I like this answer |
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Tourer
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Cottage Grove, Mn | candubrain - 2009-05-23 9:19 PM
In the car business they say that there is a ass for every seat and a seat for every ass. you'll just have to keep looking for your's.
I like this answer
Happy to help |
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Cruiser
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Wichita, Kansas | I love the Vision seat but my bony hips get pressure points after about two hours. I needed something with a little more give on pressure points. These are foam pads designed to be used in wheelchair seats. I figured if someone can sit on it for 16 hours a day, it must be pretty good.
http://www.sunmatecushions.com/pudgee.php
I had a hunk of 3" left after converting my Voyager XII seats, so I had a local upholstery shop redo the driver and passenger areas. Best money I ever spent.The wife says it helped her end of the seat also. |
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Cruiser
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| I noticed the rear pocket seams can be a bit uncomfortable after I read this thread. Can't see $400.00 for leather pants though. Has anyone tried Xelements? They "list" for 250.00 on their website, on sale for 75.00. I found them for 45.00-55.00 here: http://www.myleather.com/c/wholesale-Leather-Pants-Chaps/1/146.html |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | Shyster - 2009-05-24 12:37 PM
I noticed the rear pocket seams can be a bit uncomfortable after I read this thread. Can't see $400.00 for leather pants though. Has anyone tried Xelements? They "list" for 250.00 on their website, on sale for 75.00. I found them for 45.00-55.00 here: http://www.myleather.com/c/wholesale-Leather-Pants-Chaps/1/146.html
they have rear pockets as well. |
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Buford, GA United States | I like the stock seat as I have always replaced them before with Mustang seats. However in the summer I use a Butt Buffer gel pad to get airflow around me but in the winter I don't for the heated seat. In real hot and steamy weather I will put the Butt Buffer in the freezer overnight to cool things off in the early part of the ride. Don't know if you want to ride naked with a frozen seat...might be a shrinkage problem... |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | I've read several posts on other sites, that the Butt Buffer did help some, but the majority said they wouldn't spend the money again as the benefit was minimal.
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New Bohemia, VA | sheesh, if your butt don't fit the Vision, get a new butt! |
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San Antonio, TX | varyder - 2009-05-24 9:41 PM
sheesh, if your butt don't fit the Vision, get a new butt!
I am working on it but that takes time and effort!
Ride Safe and Haul Butt. |
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Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | I was thinking of getting those silicone implants, but I think the Butt Buffer would be cheaper! LOL |
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guelph ontario | Glad to get some lipo on mine and give it to you. Anti-rejection medicine not included. |
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Cruiser
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| 300 miles to the Wall on Sun. Tried painter pants insteadof jeans. worked great. no seams = no monkey buttt. i'm a convert. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Haven't had to break out the Alaska Sheepskin or the Airhawk yet for the Vision...Have used them on long hauls on the Hog and I can highly recommend both! |
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Tourer
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | I just ordered a pair of these http://www.compacc.com/p.cfm/c/1001002/p/19535 and I'll review them when they come in. If these work out, they are perfect for me to wear to work. |
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OH, my achy breaky arse!!