Questions from a Goldwinger
camelmd
Posted 2009-07-11 3:31 PM (#38499)
Subject: Questions from a Goldwinger


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I am looking to buy a new touring bike and the Vision is definitely worth checking into. I am on my 3rd Goldwing and looking for something a little different. I''m an iron butt rider, so I rack up some miles. My wife is on the bike with me most of the time, so I'm looking for a good 2 up bike.

I sat on a VV this morning and really liked how it fit. I'm 6'2" (225). I like the many foot positions along the floor boards. Here my main concerns:

1. Rider/passenger intercom... what is everyone using?
2. CB... Does anyone have a CB connected and how does it interface?
3. Backrest... Long rides require more than the stock seat. Is there a backrest that attaches to the seat for the rider, but still allows plenty of room for the passenger?
4. Does the bike get hot? Especially stopped in traffic?

Thanks for any comments!
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varyder
Posted 2009-07-11 4:16 PM (#38501 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: RE: Questions from a Goldwinger


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New Bohemia, VA

camelmd - 2009-07-11 4:31 PM I am looking to buy a new touring bike and the Vision is definitely worth checking into. I am on my 3rd Goldwing and looking for something a little different. I''m an iron butt rider, so I rack up some miles. My wife is on the bike with me most of the time, so I'm looking for a good 2 up bike. I sat on a VV this morning and really liked how it fit. I'm 6'2" (225). I like the many foot positions along the floor boards. Here my main concerns:

1. Rider/passenger intercom... what is everyone using?

2. CB... Does anyone have a CB connected and how does it interface?

3. Backrest... Long rides require more than the stock seat. Is there a backrest that attaches to the seat for the rider, but still allows plenty of room for the passenger?

4. Does the bike get hot? Especially stopped in traffic? Thanks for any comments!

I know I don't have as many miles as you might have, and I have done a few saddlesore ride, one with credentials. I'll try to answer some of your questions, but I'm sure there will be others much more qualified than I.

. Rider/passenger intercom... what is everyone using? I use the intercom when we are using the helmets that is set up for them. Right now, the wife and I both are using the shorty's and do not have the coms on those helmets.

2. CB... Does anyone have a CB connected and how does it interface? CB works great when I have used it, see #1.

3. Backrest... Long rides require more than the stock seat. Is there a backrest that attaches to the seat for the rider, but still allows plenty of room for the passenger? I find that the stock seat without backrest works great for me, no issues. Others say they can't live without it.

4. Does the bike get hot? Especially stopped in traffic? I'm afraid to answer this question without sounding sarcastic. This is an ongoing fuss. Yes it get's hot, it is a internal combustion engine that is oil cooled. So hot is relative, and those that ride in Texas year round or Florida will mostly tell you it is tolerable. All I have to compare to in recent memory is a GL1200, and I felt that bike got hot and when I was in traffic the fan would stay on constantly in anything above 80. I was scared for it over heating and I didn't like it too much either. Recently, I had the engine dipstick temp at 300 in stop and go traffic and I was surviving the conditions, however, my wife with her feet directly over the mufflers was getting rather hot, and she is a hot person to begin with. She doesn't like to ride when it is hot and unless it is constant moving. We were stuck in a half hour stop and go traffic for about 5 miles and wasn't going to bail but was at her limit when we moved on. This is extreme circumstances for us, so I don't expect it to happen too often. Regular traffic should not be a problem.

The benefit of the V-twin is your feet are not directly behind the heads, and there is a great remedy for some, and that is lower louvers that go on the fairing side. They redirect any heat while in motion, and many love them. I for one do not feel the need for them.

So, I hope I've helped some. I've owned my Vision for 20 months and have 47,000 miles on it. Rode 1,036 miles in 15 hours in the Virginia Saddlesore this pass may, and have done at least 1,200 in 19 hours and 900 in 17 hours with temps below 50. Did 730 in 11 hours, and every trip I've done this way, I was ready to do more at my stop for the day, but my better judgment said otherwise.

Thanks for any comments!

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flint350
Posted 2009-07-11 5:34 PM (#38505 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Goldwinger


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Baltimore, Md
I'll add a couple of short points. I have a Vision Tour Premium now and previously owned a GL1500 Wing.

1. The Vision does not come standard with Intercom/CB. It is a pricey (about $900 if I recall) option. It is also the only way to get the DIN plug in the console for a wired helmet (passenger also). You could go with aftermarket, but it wouldn't integrate as well and you'd lose the nice chrome switches to operate it.

2. The CB is part of the intercom pkg. Those who use it seem to like it or at least find it adequate. I don't use it.

3. Victory now offers an optional backrest. Prior to that, many of us ordered the Utopia and it is terrific. Both are available and work well. I love the adjustable Utopia. As for passenger comfort, I ride one up so I don't know yet. The mount sits about 10-11" in front of the back of the back seat. You do the math for your pax. Especially for long trips, I'm in the "can't live without it" group. I even love it around town.

4. Yes, the bike can get hot, but it's manageable I think. I have both sets (upper and lower) of the air deflectors, and they help quite a lot. I've never had the feeling I was frying, even stopped in Pensacola a few weeks ago during that heat wave. The outdoor temps were solid 103-104 degrees for 4 days. I rode local every day and only really noticed engine heat at stop lights. But even then, it's not that bad unless you have to sit for a long time. In cold weather, it's actually nice.

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BillyTheKidd
Posted 2009-07-11 5:37 PM (#38506 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Goldwinger


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Denver
I am a former Winger as well and can say you will not be disappointed in the vision. It is different and will take some time to get used to but it is the difference I (and it sounds like you) were and are looking for. There is a power difference between the wing and the vision (you will get a lot of argument here) but the vision will cruise at 90mph+ all day just like the wing. If you wife is short, you may need to get the passenger floorboard risers as my and several others s.o. said it felt like they were sliding forward.

Intercom is a vision Accessory and works just like the wing with one exception, you do not get the wind and road noise in the helmet from the mic ( no mic mutes needed). The cb is also an add on and works with the controls on the left handle bar which are added when the intercom and cb are added.

The backrest, from what I can tell Utopia is the only back rest that is made for the vision (at this time) and is just like the wing version as far as comfort goes.

You will notice a bit of heat from the vision in traffic, but that is a by product of the v-twin. It is not intolerable, but it is there more than on the wing. The vision does not have a liquid cooler per say, but does use an oil cooler (isn't oil liquid) to help cool the engine.

As for the Iron butt thing... well a year or so ago, I forget who the guy was but he rode a vision in the Iron butt and finished 15th overall. The bike is certainly capable of many miles and also lots of smiles.... I have not put as many miles on as I did on the wing (had a couple surgeries, back and shoulder) so I have only got 11k in the last 11 months but they have been trouble free. My main concern when I purchased the Vision was that it would not leave me along the road (the wing never did) and so far I can say it has been nothing but great. I had a Gl1200, 2 1500's and 3 1800's for reference. I am also 6'2" ( at least before the back surgery) and about 220.

Willy



Edited by BillyTheKidd 2009-07-11 5:42 PM
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OldGringo
Posted 2009-07-11 7:23 PM (#38511 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Goldwinger


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Republic of Tejas
There's a guy in Houston who is returning home from the Iron Butt Yada Yada which did Nova Scotia to California in 70 some odd hours. Might try to drop him a PM, His alias on the VMC is Tazmaniac and I believe it is the same here.....
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OldGringo
Posted 2009-07-11 7:23 PM (#38512 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Goldwinger


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Republic of Tejas
There's a guy in Houston who is returning home from the Iron Butt Yada Yada which did Nova Scotia to California in 70 some odd hours. Might try to drop him a PM, His alias on the VMC is Tazmaniac and I believe it is the same here.....
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elvis441
Posted 2009-07-11 9:25 PM (#38514 - in reply to #38499)
Subject: Re: Questions from a Goldwinger


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Houston, TX
Met Taz at Mancuso's in Houston a few moths back. Cool guy...
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