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Brighton, TN | How many folks are really interested in the possibility of having their blinkers sequentially blink, like the old cougars. Starting at the bottom and going to the top, through the three lights. I have access to a fellow who has electronics experience and seems to be interested in designing it. But before I jump out and tell him to spend some of his youthful time on it, I thought I would gauge the actual interest in it. |
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Aubrey, TX | I am assuming we are talking a plug and play module to do this? |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Damn....
I thought this was gonna be a thread about hot 40+ women |
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Northeastern Penna. | Me too,that's why I answered quick ! |
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Brighton, TN | Yes, like anything, it all depends on what you call plug and play. Yes, if we can figure out where the plugs come from and get appropriate connectors. It should be. That's what I call plug and play.
Then there is always option 2 where you have to cut and splice. I see some of you like that option to with the mod to the rear light to stay on when tapping the brakes. |
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Memphis | I'm sooo in! |
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| Gotta have it! Front and back too ? I hope.... too cool if both can do it... |
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Memphis,Tn. | The sequential signal 3 light system is back on the 2010 Mustangs. They look good. |
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Memphis | Personally, I'd like to refer to them as the '69 Shelby GT500KR lighting option. Cougar sounds a little tame. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | SongFan - 2009-09-01 11:32 PM
Personally, I'd like to refer to them as the '69 Shelby GT500KR lighting option. Cougar sounds a little tame.
Those were Cougar tail lights |
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New Bohemia, VA | SongFan - 2009-09-02 12:32 AM
Personally, I'd like to refer to them as the '69 Shelby GT500KR lighting option. Cougar sounds a little tame.
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Memphis | kevinx - 2009-09-02 4:50 AM SongFan - 2009-09-01 11:32 PM Personally, I'd like to refer to them as the '69 Shelby GT500KR lighting option. Cougar sounds a little tame. Those were Cougar tail lights I know, and of all the Cougars, Mustangs and Torinos that had them, the '69 GT500KR was the baddest of them all. (The '70 Shelby GT's had them also but the '69 wins because anything made in the '70's and '80's was lame.) P.S. - What I'd really like to see is all six bulbs light up as brake lights and when your turn signals activate, the three bulbs on that side go sequential while the three bulbs on the other side stay bright.
Edited by SongFan 2009-09-02 7:20 AM
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Brighton, TN | I need a sound clip of a cougar and a 69 Shelby GT500KR and see which one scares you more.
I totally forgot about the front of the bike. I'll give that a look. That would be slick.
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Memphis | Po, You also need to modify your poll. ABSURD belongs in the top category. |
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Brighton, TN | If I knew how to modify it, I probably would. But I spent a few minutes setting it up, then posted it. Thought I wanted to change something but was unable to. I could only change my post. What would the Top category then read, "This is so ABSURD, I gotta have it!" |
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North Orange County CA | SongFan - 2009-09-02 5:15 AM
kevinx - 2009-09-02 4:50 AM SongFan - 2009-09-01 11:32 PM P.S. - What I'd really like to see is all six bulbs light up as brake lights and when your turn signals activate, the three bulbs on that side go sequential while the three bulbs on the other side stay bright.
If you can do this, then I'm in!
+1 on the matching front. |
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Memphis | "This is so ABSURD, I gotta have it!" Absolutely! |
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Goldsboro, NC | I would especially love it if I could have the sequentials, but also replace the filament bulbs with LED's. I don't understand why Vic went high tech/spaceship on everything but old school on the tail lights. It's like they designed it from the front to the back and ran out of time or something.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | I said NO to this suggestion right away - no hesitation at all.
BECAUSE - often I make a quick lane change - and I want ALL the lights working RIGHT NOW to let any interested party know that I am changing direction. I don't want anyone looking at me and thinking "AWWW - Isn't that cute" ---- I want them thinking "LOOKOUT !!!! "
So - I choose SAFETY over CUTENESS - and the brighter - the better. And yes - I agree that while sitting at an intersection with 'Cougars' on - would draw attention, or while signalling a long way from my turn. But my riding style is FAST with lots of quick lane changes - and I just don't believe cuteness would be as effective as the stock lights. Just my 2 cents.... |
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Brighton, TN | donetracey, so then maybe you would prefer all lights on the one side to light as a blinker, but then again stock lights sounds to be right up your alley. Or, maybe even through some HID lights in there to say WATCH OUT, RIGHT NOW!
I'm thinking that no matter which light is blinking, it is saying I'm coming over. Then, I was thinking of modding my bike to leave the middle light on with brake. But after traveling behind someone who had done the mod, I could barely tell when they were braking. i like the contrast.
Thanks for the compliment of calling me CUTENESS. Flattered, but I look nothing like your wife, I don't even have uranium to con you with. |
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Hinton, Iowa | Here is a ste that might have what you are trying to get.A guy at work used these on
his 80 caprice and he said they work pretty slick.
Ride Safe, Mike
http://webelectricproducts.com/ |
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Wichita, Kansas | The sequential flash would look cool indeed, but I'd want to see one before I hacked up my wiring. Looking at the wiring diagram in the shop manual, it would take some cut and splice work because of the way it's wired. BUT, the 3/3 brake/flasher could be a plug in module - the biggest drawback would be the pair of connectors used at the rear fender break - they look expensive. I would go for a 3/3 setup just to increase the number of brake lights. |
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Tacoma, WA | I am in. I like what I see in the link that airguy posted.... They have generic ones for $69.00?? I may have to order a set!-----Metalguy |
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Atlanta Area | I have working on this for a while now... Remember that we have a separate wire for turn vs. brake. I am looking into one of the trailer harness adapters that will convert separate turn and brake wires into one wire which is what this mod will require... |
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Marysville Washngton | I would be very interested. I have mentioned this a few times and would love it if the guys that know this kind of stuff would come up with something. |
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Brighton, MI | Count me in also, ( Do we know if they ever plan on coming out with LED assemblies for the visions simular to the vagas??)
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Jasper, MO | While we're at it, could the trunk running lights be made to blink as the fourth light in the sequence in the turn signal mode, and light up as brake lights also?
Ronnie |
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Aubrey, TX | this still cookin? |
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Marysville Washngton | I am still interested. Good winter time install project. |
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, FL United States | V spot - 2009-10-08 5:08 PM
I am still interested. Good winter time install project.
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rhode island | OK Chandler Tom,
It's show time! 
Edited by sandman 2009-10-09 3:32 PM
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Stockton, Ca. | Sounds good, When will it be available? |
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Rapid City, SD | The Cougar tail lights were cool but if you asked about the LED conversion similar to the new Jackpot tails then I would be all over that. Mildly interested in this. More interested in a complete LED conversion. Do I have money for either, probably not. LoL |
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Marysville Washngton | So, I was planning on doing the middle brake mod and the Kuryakyn module mod this winter. If I do all that will I still be able to do the Cougar mod if it ever comes along? |
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Lavon, TX | I am working on a how-to set of instructions; I took lots of pics during my install.
Here's an overview of what is entailed.
It is NOT for the faint of heart - basically, you have to re-wire the signal/brakes (including adding a signal feed to the inner front sockets).
The Vision has qty10 3157 (two front and three back per side) main signal/turn bulbs, along with qty3 194 bulbs (two in the trunk and a license lamp). It is factory wired such that, for the front, only the outer bulbs are used for signalling, and, for the back, only the top bulb is used for signalling and the bottom bulb is used for braking. The middle bulb will turn off if you are signalling; otherwise, it is an additional brake lamp.
For LEDs, I purchased from eBay qty5 pair of V-LEDS HID WHITE 60 M-SMT GM DRL BULBS 3157 3156 VS, at $50/pair. These have qty60 surface mount high intensity leds, and are specifically designed to handle fluctuating and spiking voltage.
I purchased qty2 pair of V-LEDS WHITE 194 13 LED LIGHT BULBS 158 168 2825 VS, at $15/pair - one for the license lamp and two for the trunk. I added the Kuryakyn 4710 controller mod ($63), along with its included Kuryakyn 4810 load equalizer.
I added qty5 per side wide-angle red LEDs on the outer edges of my mirrors (whilst I was in that vicinity) for $12 from eBay.
I also bought an LED conversion kit for my BushTec trailer, from BushTec for $99.
For sequencing controllers, I purchased directly from www.webelectricproducts.com item STS-2S for the front (two lamp sequencing) for $49 and item STS-1M5 for the back (three lamp sequencing) for $80.
On the front, move the turn signal feed wire from the outer socket to the inner socket. The red wire of the STS-2S controller is tapped off of the turn signal wire. The black wire of the controller taps off of the ground wire. The white wire of the controller is run to the signal location of the outer socket. Repeat for other side.
The back gets more complicated. On the left side, cut the blue signal wire near the upper socket and add a diode to the signal feed. The socket side of the blue wire is connected to the blue wire of the STS-1M5 controller. Cut the white wire of the middle socket; the socket side is connected to the white wire of the controller. Cut the black/orange grounding wire of the middle socket; the socket side is connected to the ground wire of the bottom socket, along with the black wire of the controller. Splice into the white/red wire, just past the bike's diode, the blue signal wire (with its diode) and the red wire of the controller. In this manner, either the brake or the signal can feed the red wire of the controller - and each has a diode to block any backfeed. Do the same for the other side.
I now have dual sequential front turn signals (along with mirror blinkers), triple sequential (from bottom to top) rear turn signals, and three per side brake lights (as well as turn/brake/tail lights for the trunk).
Outstanding issues:
1) I need to buy another Kuryakyn 4810 load equalizer ($16) in order to slow my blinker sequencing rate some more (the LEDs have virtually no amperage draw on the bike's electrical system).
2) The triple brake light overrides the sequencing blinkers. I am going to take the diode brake feed from each side and run these back through the bike's two relays (the ones that controlled the middle lamps), in order to cancel the brake feed for a given side if its associated signal is also on. This will require separating the relay outputs and bringing an additional wire to the back of the bike - but all of the hardware is already mounted on the bike.
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Brighton, TN | Well, it looks like the young electrical engineer that I was referring to, got lightly motivated, then lost interest quickly. I was trying to help him out by offering a product his education would help him build and help defray some of his college expenses. Apparently, he wasn't THAT interested.
It looks like charbin has a good solution, in all of the conversion and I bet you could get the fourth light on the tour pack to interact, just gotta wire it.
My apologies from my end, it seems rather familiar ground, that I have befell upon. Me thinks, me needs to be infinitely wealthy to either hire a guy/gal to do it for me or it allocates the time to go get trained on what Me needs to do to make it work.
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West Knoxville TN | Sounds way cool. Could be the mod of choice soon. |
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Wichita, Kansas | <p>Charbin, Great job!! Take what you've written and make a post in the Vision Tech Reference forum. That will save a lot of hassle later because this will definitely be a popular reference post. Then when you get the writeup done, you can edit the psot and overwrite it with the fancy instructions, add picture, whatever. If you don't put it there, the search engine will lose it in a few months and there will be constant posts about "Has anybody heard of . . . " </p><p>The great thing is, it uses off the shelf parts. A custom design would proably have to be built up, waterproofed, etc.<br /></p><p> Again, great job.</p>
Edited by KansasGuardsman 2009-11-07 4:42 PM
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Memphis | Once Charbin and/or KansasGuardsman gets the details ironed out, I would definitely pay for your time and ride to Texas or Kansas for this mod. I'm ok until you get to the part about back wiring into relays and soldering in diodes. Would love to have this done by one of you pros. Cougar Party anyone? (I mean for the Vision mod. ) |
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| Cougar party! classic! Somebody has to start the Cougar-n-Cam Party!
Too much!
If it is ever possible in Southern CA, I am there! |
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Marysville Washngton | wow...have the bike half torn apart to put a CB/Communicator and the Kuryakyn 4710 in. I might as well do this as well. Can't wait for the official write up with Pixs. Thanks for working on this for all of us. |
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Old School Cougar Tail light, Interested?