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, IA | i put the vic's up on blocks during winter storage is it ok to keep it in firts gear for 3 months (do to pressure on clutch plates ) or is that a bad idea just wondeing |
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| sonic, don't think it makes any difference. Did you change the oil prior to storage? Lots of folks think they should store with the old oil and then replace come spring when they should replace the oil before storage. Fuel and moisture coupled with the oil creates an acid as it sits, so fresh oil that has not been run is best. Either a couple tablespoons of MMO or Stabyl in the fuel (I prefer MMO) and a tender. Quite frankly I never put mine up on blocks.
My routine is simple: MMO in a full tank of gas, add some MMO and run it for a few minutes to be sure it gets into the entire fuel system. Replace oil w/filter, hook up tender, fill tires to 42 psi. Spray motor exterior and exterior metal parts with WD40, close barn.....done. |
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| Pressure on the clutch plates is the same whether it is in gear or neutral. +1 on the oil change and the fuel stabilizer. |
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orrick, mo | I usually don't winterize my bikes. I will start it and let in run up to temp if it sits about a month. Which usually ends up with me freezing my a** off cause then I have to go for a little ride provided their is no snow or ice around.
Everyone I've known who has sworn by the battery tenders usuall has to replace their battery before me. I've never used one and don't plan on it either.
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New Bohemia, VA | buzz64077 - 2009-11-02 12:55 PM
I usually don't winterize my bikes. I will start it and let in run up to temp if it sits about a month. Which usually ends up with me freezing my a** off cause then I have to go for a little ride provided their is no snow or ice around.
Everyone I've known who has sworn by the battery tenders usuall has to replace their battery before me. I've never used one and don't plan on it either.
interesting buzz, i've had my vision for two years, original battery that has been run dead twice and jumped both times. NEVER have had it on the battery tender or charger and it is still going fine.
I still might replace my battery before it gets too cold, but it still seems strong after these two years. |
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Hartland, , WI | Teach - 2009-11-01 11:05 AM
sonic, don't think it makes any difference. Did you change the oil prior to storage? Lots of folks think they should store with the old oil and then replace come spring when they should replace the oil before storage. Fuel and moisture coupled with the oil creates an acid as it sits, so fresh oil that has not been run is best. Either a couple tablespoons of MMO or Stabyl in the fuel (I prefer MMO) and a tender. Quite frankly I never put mine up on blocks.
My routine is simple: MMO in a full tank of gas, add some MMO and run it for a few minutes to be sure it gets into the entire fuel system. Replace oil w/filter, hook up tender, fill tires to 42 psi. Spray motor exterior and exterior metal parts with WD40, close barn.....done.
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| It is actually a bad idea to just start the bike during winter storage. Fuel slips past the rings and moisture builds within the cases which causes acid to form which harms the motor. Now if you plan to ride a good hour or so it isn't a problem.
As to battery tenders leading to premature battery death? Well I've never replaced a battery in a bike ever and many of those bikes were quite old with well over 100k miles on them. So do as you please but if my bikes sitting for longer than a few days it goes on the tender. I use a deep cycle tender not those cheapo "battery tenders" every bike shop and Walmart sell. The one I use actually restores the battery to a deeper charge then if new, same puppy the military uses and you can buy a photocell if you don't have a power outlet. Let me know if anyone would like a brand name and number |
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New Brunswick , Canada | Hi Teach...do you have the Brand name and Model... |
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New Brunswick , Canada | Hi Teach...do you have the Brand name and Model... |
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Spring Hill, Tennessee | Teach - 2009-11-02 7:12 PM
It is actually a bad idea to just start the bike during winter storage. Fuel slips past the rings and moisture builds within the cases which causes acid to form which harms the motor. Now if you plan to ride a good hour or so it isn't a problem.
As to battery tenders leading to premature battery death? Well I've never replaced a battery in a bike ever and many of those bikes were quite old with well over 100k miles on them. So do as you please but if my bikes sitting for longer than a few days it goes on the tender. I use a deep cycle tender not those cheapo "battery tenders" every bike shop and Walmart sell. The one I use actually restores the battery to a deeper charge then if new, same puppy the military uses and you can buy a photocell if you don't have a power outlet. Let me know if anyone would like a brand name and number
I would very much like to know the name and where to buy the tender you speak of. The only time my bike is not on a tender is when I am on it!! The entire concept and logic of a good tender makes perfect sense. Not sure why everyone wouldn't want to use one?
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| winter storage???? whats that!! oh yea I forget that some of you don't live in New Mexico bike ridding all year round :>
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New Bohemia, VA | eeek, not the military photo cell. Having experienced their use, they are not really worth the money the military spent unless you follow absolute protocol with them, that is, keep the battery clean around and on the terminals. A dirty battery causes more grief than anything else. I spent 20 years trying to keep them clean while in the Army.
the only time I put a bike in storage was when I went to Korea for a year and my brother was suppose to storagize it for me. It got stuck in an outbuilding for a year with nothing done to it. When I returned I pulled the carbs (remember those) and had them cleaned and put a new battery in it. I rode that joy (CB750 Custom w/Vetter fairing) for another year without issues.
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Brighton, TN | I am using a CTEk battery charger. Seems to work well and you can buy extra plugins to mount permanently on multiple pieces, just move the charger around. |
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| Ok it is the 4th item down this page; http://www.oil-tech.com/pulsetc2.htm
It is the PulseTech RediPulse Charger/maintennce system MN-RP-6-12
Great little unit which plugs into the existing tender lead on the Vision. If you like you can use heavyduty double backed tape to stick it inside the front fairing. With it there you can carry a solar panel(separate purchase item) for powering it on road trips without an outlet. At home just plug in the wall cord.
My lawn tractor battery was DEAD DEAD two years ago. Popped this charger on it and the battery works like new still today. |
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Spring Hill, Tennessee | I have to ask you Teach, is this battery tender somehow different than any other tender on the market?
I am reading the detailed description of the product on the site you provided, but do not see where this tender performs any differently than others?
Just wondering because I already have tenders that I use, but would switch to a better brand if I knew it was providing something better/different?
Let me know?
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| The Redipulse uses pulse technology which actually removes the particals from the battery plates which prevent your battery from fully charging with a regular tender or charger. So what you get is a batter that is deep charged and fully charged every time. I have a brand new battery tender that doesn't get used except to maintain the battery in the tractor once it is fully charged using the Pulsetech. The Pulsetech unit gets used on my vision. The other visions I know turn over kind of sluggish, mine fires up. So yes a big difference. |
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Spring Hill, Tennessee | That's good enough for me!
I will order one today!
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