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Memphis | The wife asked what I wanted for Christmas this year and I immediately replied "TireGard"! http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5920/Motorcycle_Tire_Gauges_And_Pyrometers1?gclid=CJ2_se-ZrJ4CFRDxDAodgTh0nQ The only issue I have heard about them is not to use rubber valve stems because of the weight of the TireGard valve stem caps/transmitters. If you watch the video on this page and notice the 90 degree valve stems on the Goldwing, they look very stout. Are those stock Honda pieces and would they transfer over to the Vision wheels? I figured as long as I'm changing out valve stems I might as well go angled for ease of use. These look pretty stout: http://kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php?cPath=27&osCsid=7c628742da45726c159349347b8db72c If you scroll to the bottom of the page, it shows a cheaper, chrome style of angled stem that looks way too weak. Has anybody out there used either one of these products? Any input welcome. |
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Cruiser
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Bonita Springs, FL | I have had the TPMS for about 8 months. Very accurate, but your true tire pressure does not come up until you have been on the bike for a minute or two. Other than that, has worked great, no issues with the stock stems. |
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Tavares, Fl | I also have the TPMS with stock stems. No issues other than the original batteries did not last very long, hopefully these will do better. At five bucks apiece at Radio Shack it could get expensive... |
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Visionary
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Memphis | Thanks guys, I have a feeling that the guys who have had problems with the rubber valve stems were running in triple digits fairly regularly. I'll start out on the stock valve stems and then transition to the metal, angled ones when the routine tire changes come due. p.s. - do you guys mount the fob on the bike while riding or keep it in a pocket and check it when stopped? I'd like to rig a mount on the dash or console for real-time monitoring.
Edited by SongFan 2009-11-27 5:32 PM
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Visionary
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| No those are not stock honda stems. I do have a question though. Why would you put these on and have to mess with removing them when you need air? Wouldn't it be easier to simply check your tire pressure before heading out every other day or so? |
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Memphis | Kind of strange that you don't see the advantage considering the inconveniece of the rear wheel clearance but you'd only have to take the TPM caps off when you need air. I don't see the advantage to hassling with losing a puff of air every other day if you don't need to.
Edited by SongFan 2009-11-27 6:33 PM
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Visionary
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| SongFan, I don't have a clearance issue, nor will a puff of air as you put it require any additional servicing as compared to the tire monitor. I believe most manufactures suggest a tire will lose on average 2lbs a week. That being the case you'll be pulling the locks, aka loosening the allen set and airing at the least weekly. I'll be doing the same without all the extra effort.
So again I fail to see an advantage to using these. So do you have a legit rational or is it simply the next cool gadget? |
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Memphis | I'm done. |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | I'm thinking about this. Honestly, It is worth the hassle for me. I don't get under my bike and check the pressure of the rear tire nearly as much with the Vision as I did before. Honestly, it's a PITA even though I understand the importance. It may not be fail safe but its better than nothing, which is what I'm using about 1/2 the time now. I'd even consider some of those color change indicator caps if I could find the right pressure for the Vision. |
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Arkansas | I like the new 2010 valve stems- shorter and stout metal- but they screw into the rim- not sure if the previous rims that use the rubber stems are compatable ; my guess is not likely. |
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | I looked these over and I can't really see the true benefit of having them. Tell me I'm missing some point of them????
I mean I understand the whole "no hassle to check air pressure" theory. However with or without these you are still gonna need to add air about once a week. So how do these really save any labor?
I'm open to ideas.....input....debate....etc.... |
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Visionary
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| Lotzafun, thank you that was my point/question.
SongFan not trying to piss you off, I just don't get it? |
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Memphis | I know. Not pissed at all. |
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Cruiser
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Bonita Springs, FL | Two replies:
First, I have mine on the dash with velcro so I can keep an eye one it.
Second, reason I bought it, saw a goldwing with two on board go down with a flat, I was behind them. It seemed as though the driver did not know what was happening and eventually went into a real bad wobble and went down. |
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Tourer
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Salisbury, NC | The really good thing about using the TPMS is that if you run over a nail, it lets you know that you have a slow leak and can fix the tire while it is still safe enough to ride home to replace it. I have been thinking about getting one myself. ET |
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Wichita, Kansas | I put a set on about two months ago. A friend of mine is religious about checking his bike before a ride. His 1300ST picked up something on the road and he felt a quiver at about 70 so he started slowing. It started getting squirrelly and at about 40 went into a tank slapper and pitched him high side. He was pretty banged up but nothing broken and the bike was mainly plastic damage aside from the tire.
I check my bike regularly and add air as required. But I can not tell when I run over something on the road. Everybody I've told about this has the same response - "I always check my tires before I ride." Then they hop on their bike and do the 20 miles home from work.
I admit I don't crawl on the ground as required to check my Vision rear tire every time I ride. That's why I bought it and it works great. I just put a velcro tab on the console by the key. When I take out the key, I pop it off and put it in my pocket with the keys. When I get the key, I put it back on and go. It's worth it for the peace of mind. And all 4 of us who ride with the guy regularly now have it. |
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Newnan, GA | The 90 Deg valve stem on the Goldwing sucks. They tend to crack and leak. I went with a straight stem when I needed new tires. Many Goldwing riders use this 90 Deg Stem. http://patchboy.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/17-562-n.jpg 
SongFan - 2009-11-27 4:25 PM The wife asked what I wanted for Christmas this year and I immediately replied "TireGard"! http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5920/Motorcycle_Tire_Gauges_And_Pyrometers1?gclid=CJ2_se-ZrJ4CFRDxDAodgTh0nQ The only issue I have heard about them is not to use rubber valve stems because of the weight of the TireGard valve stem caps/transmitters. If you watch the video on this page and notice the 90 degree valve stems on the Goldwing, they look very stout. Are those stock Honda pieces and would they transfer over to the Vision wheels? I figured as long as I'm changing out valve stems I might as well go angled for ease of use. These look pretty stout: http://kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php?cPath=27&osCsid=7c628742da45726c159349347b8db72c If you scroll to the bottom of the page, it shows a cheaper, chrome style of angled stem that looks way too weak. Has anybody out there used either one of these products? Any input welcome.
Edited by Mongo 2009-11-28 10:16 AM
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Newnan, GA | I guess it all depends at the angle of the stem and the side prophile of the mag you're installing it onto. you may need to study the wheel you're installing the stem onto. I still like the straight stems better. Still, this style is intriguing. Good luck on your choice.  .
SongFan - 2009-11-27 4:25 PM The wife asked what I wanted for Christmas this year and I immediately replied "TireGard"! http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/product/5920/Motorcycle_Tire_Gauges_And_Pyrometers1?gclid=CJ2_se-ZrJ4CFRDxDAodgTh0nQ The only issue I have heard about them is not to use rubber valve stems because of the weight of the TireGard valve stem caps/transmitters. If you watch the video on this page and notice the 90 degree valve stems on the Goldwing, they look very stout. Are those stock Honda pieces and would they transfer over to the Vision wheels? I figured as long as I'm changing out valve stems I might as well go angled for ease of use. These look pretty stout: http://kurveygirl.com/shop/index.php?cPath=27&osCsid=7c628742da45726c159349347b8db72c If you scroll to the bottom of the page, it shows a cheaper, chrome style of angled stem that looks way too weak. Has anybody out there used either one of these products? Any input welcome.
Edited by Mongo 2009-11-28 10:19 AM
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Newnan, GA | You know what to do? 
QUOTE]SongFan - 2009-11-27 7:15 PM I'm done. |
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Visionary
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Memphis | Thanks for the input Mongo, I just checked the Vision wheels and they have a nice flat, round pad built in that looks like it would fit that style perfectly. I'm thinking about angling it about 45 degrees to the rear on the back tire instead of 90 degrees straight out. Split the difference between the tire and the pulley. The front tire, I could just go 90 degrees. I know the straight stems are the strongest but have had a couple of occasions where I needed air away from home and the hose I had to use had the big 45 degree head on it and was a pain compared to the little ball chuck I normally use. The angled stem would just make it easier no matter what I had to use. Those Kurveygirl stems look like what I'll go for, just have to make sure I order the 11.3mm and not the 8.3mm Italian ones. As far as the Tiregard goes, I was thinking some kind of velcro mount also. I'm seriously thinking about colormatching all of the aluminum pieces on the bike so wouldn't want to put velcro on the freshly painted console. A 90 degree bracket mounted to the dash would work plus it would keep the fob up in my line of sight. rlreed - When you say the batteries didn't last very long, how long are we talking? A month, couple of months? Thanks again for the input guys. |
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Cruiser
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New Brunswick , Canada | The TPMS from Doran is offering a interesting option on there system. you can install the moniroring unit in your dash , trunk, out of site,,,, and run a wire with a red light onto your console..and the transmitters can be installed outside or inside the your rims...No monitor in site to temp those five fingers disconters...just in case you forget your monitor on the bike... |
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Memphis | Thanks Lojak, I just checked it out. I need to see the readout. I guess my main attraction to this TPMS thing is the real time information. I'd be real interested to watch trends throughout different riding conditions. How much does the tire pressure/heat increase from a 75 degree summer morning departure compared to 95 degrees later on that day out on the freeway? Crud, I just ran over something. Am I losing pressure in either tire? A cold snap came through last night. Did I lose enough pressure to make a difference? Once I got used to the patterns, it would be easier to notice something like a slow leak as opposed to normal loss of air. I could check my tires on a regular basis just like always but with a relatively inexpensive and easy to mount TPMS I can check on my tires literally hundreds of times over that same time frame. These Dunlop E3s are by far the most sensitive to pressure changes of any tire I have ever owned and any edge I can get to stay on top of them would help. |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | SongFan, you kill me. I posted this thread ( http://www.Vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3655&pos... ) a while ago and you said you wouldn't buy anything with PMS in caps on it. 
I want to get the angled valve caps too. Just to make filling the tires easier. Which one do you get?
Others - you don't have to put the locking rings on. It's there so you can have piece of mind knowing the cap / sensor won't come off easily. Also, you SHOULD check your tire pressure every time you get on the bike. I can do that, and oh yeah, I can check it riding down the highway too. Getting a flat on the highway is what I am trying to avoid. Sure, you can have a blowout, but this will help you to avoid leaking out while riding and make your entire safety (T-CLOCK) experience better. For those of you cutting corners on safety, I wish you luck. You have two tires on a bike. Checking pressure on them is not to be taken lightly.
Not sure if Frank's tire was low prior to blowing, but this is what I don't want to go thru.
http://forums.thevmc.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=71592&posts=...
Edited by ScoreBo 2009-11-28 12:02 PM
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New Bohemia, VA | does kicking them count? I'm a son of a truck driver after all.... |
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Memphis | Scorebo - You got me. I'm totally busted on that one. That thread is probably what turned me on to the TireGard in the first place but I couldn't remember where I had seen it. I googled TireGard and got a lot of good info from Sport Touring and Goldwing forums. Looks like a no brainer for me (which is what I need!). I figured the locking rings were mainly for anti-theft so I'll probably not use them. As far as the Kurveygirl valve stems go I'm going to get the silver 11.3mm. I'm not going to pull the tires just to install them now but will have them available when the next changes are due. With the offset valve and the extra weight of the TireGard caps I'm thinking it might be the right time to try out Dyna Beads while I'm at it. None of that is scheduled to happen until next spring anyway. Thanks for the input. I wish I had remebered your thread. |
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Cruiser
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Yellowknife, NT Canada | I check my tires before each ride. But I bought the TPMS because I have one daughter and she likes to ride. I looked at the Doran TPMS, but it is hardwired and does not give temps. Hardwired is a golden ticket to say no on warranties. So I used TireGard. mounted on dash. It was $250.00 for 4 wheels, bike and trailer are covered. Teaching my daughter to ride safe.. Priceless.. |
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TireGard TPMS and angled valve stems