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| The service manual says to use new bolts because they are coated with a locking agent when reinstalling the rotor. Is this really necessary or can I just reuse the old bolts and put some blue locktite on them. Thanks!
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New Bohemia, VA | in theory that sounds okay, but depending on the torque and the strength of the bolts, the primary idea of replacing them is the old bolts are stressed. I spent many years in Army maintenance and learned the importance of using new hardware.
Now that is out of the way, why would you remove the rotor? The dealer can change the tire without removing the rotor, or so I thought... |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | I leave the rotor in place when changing the tire. If I do have to pull the rotor I run a clean up tap down the holes, and a die across the bolts, and then use a self primer blue lock-tite jell. Failure to clean the threads make acurate torque impossible |
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Pittsburgh, PA | my dealer replaced my rear tire and they kept everyone on the rear wheel. then i get a concerned look on their face as i went to pay my bill.. their tire changing tool scratch the $hit out of my pulley.... They claim they will fix this over the winter. They said next time they will remove the rear pulley. I was the first Vision they had to replace a rear tire on... They said the visions rear pulley is larger than the other victorys? i dont know this to be true or not. Just repeating what i was told. |
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| Thanks guys! Appreciate the info. |
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New Bohemia, VA | i would hope for a dealer new hardware is standard anytime the repair manual suggests, or is for a stress related component...
a few cents is not worth someones life....
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Ruskin, Fl | After the dealer took the rotors off to get the wheels powder coated, I had ALL the front bolts on one of the front rotors back out. I noticed it when one of them backed out far enough to start chewing up the inside of the fork lower. I was on the road during a poker run. I replaced the bent one with a bolt from the auto parts store. I took the rest of them out and used loc-tight on them till I could get it back to the dealer and have them replace all the bolts with new ones. To add insult to injury, the 10mm wrench that came with the bike broke when I tried to tighten the first bolt. Of course that left me with bloody knuckles, and I had to buy a wrench too.
I'm pretty sure they just forgot to tighten them. The other side all bolts were tight. I rode for a couple of weeks with the old bolts without an issue. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | varyder - 2009-12-13 1:39 PM
i would hope for a dealer new hardware is standard anytime the repair manual suggests, or is for a stress related component...
a few cents is not worth someones life....
The bolts are not torque to yield, and stress is not the reason for changing them. The reason for the replacement is that few people know how to properly use lock-tite, and bolts backing could be an obvious safety issue. When the dealer tells you that you need to spend between $40-$60 on hardware for the bolts; I'm pretty sure your view would change |
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North Orange County CA | kevinx - 2009-12-13 2:17 PM
The reason for the replacement is that few people know how to properly use lock-tite, and bolts backing could be an obvious safety issue.
Ok, I'll bite; other than the directions on the container - which are so small that I now need a scanning electron microscope to read them - what is the proper way to use loctite?
My preference is for the little chap-stick dispenser because it wont leak inside my tool roll. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Tarpits99 - 2009-12-14 10:40 AM
kevinx - 2009-12-13 2:17 PM
The reason for the replacement is that few people know how to properly use lock-tite, and bolts backing could be an obvious safety issue.
Ok, I'll bite; other than the directions on the container - which are so small that I now need a scanning electron microscope to read them - what is the proper way to use loctite?
My preference is for the little chap-stick dispenser because it wont leak inside my tool roll.
I hate that when happens. What concerns me most is my dealer doesn't know how to use loctite, but I'm to trust him with my life....
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | varyder - 2009-12-14 11:48 AM
Tarpits99 - 2009-12-14 10:40 AM
kevinx - 2009-12-13 2:17 PM
The reason for the replacement is that few people know how to properly use lock-tite, and bolts backing could be an obvious safety issue.
Ok, I'll bite; other than the directions on the container - which are so small that I now need a scanning electron microscope to read them - what is the proper way to use loctite?
My preference is for the little chap-stick dispenser because it wont leak inside my tool roll.
I hate that when happens. What concerns me most is my dealer doesn't know how to use loctite, but I'm to trust him with my life....
Never said a word about your dealers knowledge. Fact is I was talking about the average shade tree that does not know about cleaning, and the use of primers. Those same people that just dump the oil in there shocks without cleaning anything, and call it a service |
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Rear wheel rotor removal for tire change