What helmet on a Vision?
newzealandvision
Posted 2010-01-01 2:12 AM (#50477)
Subject: What helmet on a Vision?


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Here's something that is driving me nuts:
I am in the process of buying a new helmet and have been trying a few but everyone of them has been noisey on the vision with the screen in down position.
I have had other bikes and not noticed the noise - Buell XB12, KTM 690, Ducati, SV1000, ST1300 but The quietest helmet is my old Shoei Raid 2 and being a Shoei fan I had decided on a Multitec...untill I tried one on the Vision - it had an annoying noise whistlling on each side of my forehead. Also tried a Nolan and an LS2, all noisey.
So Vision riders - What are the quietest helmets out there?
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Kornbread
Posted 2010-01-01 4:51 AM (#50478 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 97
Okeefenokee Swamp
I only wear the non D.O.T novelty helmets. What noise are you talking about?
as far as the quietest helmet,mine has never said a word.
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lennyb
Posted 2010-01-01 7:38 AM (#50483 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD
The wife says I don't need no helmet to not hear a thing.

Do like my Scorpion 200 when the weather calls for more then the cover provided by the 100, but not sure that it is the quietest.

Adjust the windshield height and see if the noise level changes.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-01-01 9:24 AM (#50487 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Fountain Inn, SC United States
I've found the Shark Evoline to be pretty quiet, especially in the chin-up position. It's made to ride as a full-face OR a 3/4 helmet. It's currently the only helmet that is DOT rated in the chin-up position.
Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqY2bXaTSZA

It really depends on the airstream you are operating in. Some helmets are much noisier when they are behind a windshield.
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jama
Posted 2010-01-01 1:22 PM (#50492 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 293
Arkansas
Helmets/vents are designed for airflow from front to back with minimal or no wndscreen. We all have airflow that is from rear, sides, etc depending on windscreen position. (I realize you know all this- no offense) They are all a little noisey with the wind from the rear. It's like flying an airplane backwards- kinda rough on the airflow.
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Travelin Man
Posted 2010-01-01 2:03 PM (#50493 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 721
I use two different helmets for my riding purposes. My daily helmet that I use for my commuting back and forth to work is a Arai open face that I have had for about 7 years and the helmet I use when riding on the weekends with my group is HJC AC3 complete with J&M helmet speakers and hookup for use with my Vision's CB/Intercom (the AC3 also allows me to install a face shield when we encounter rain). Neither helmet has shown to be louder than when I used them on my Goldwing although open face helmets tend to always tend to be noisier than full face helmets. I have also recently purchased a Nolan N103 flip front helmet and with this helmet I have noticed quite a bit more wind noise than I do with either of my open face helmets, go figure.
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SongFan
Posted 2010-01-01 2:06 PM (#50494 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

I also go with the theory that it's not the helmet, it's the airflow around the bike.  All big bikes with big windscreens offer lots of protection from the wind but the way they manage the airflow causes a low frequency roar that is not there on other style bikes.  I have a Nolan N-102 and a Scorpion EXO-100 and it is a totally different bike depending on which helmet I am using.  The full/flip face is much noisier on the Vision compared to the EXO-100.  I think if I had a Blade windshield on the Vision it might help with a full face but I'd rather wear earplugs and deal with the loss of radio clarity than give up the airflow management.  I wear earplugs regardless of the helmet but with a full face, I feel like I have to or will get fatigued much sooner.

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varyder
Posted 2010-01-01 2:20 PM (#50497 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'll either wear the shorty or in the winter the EXO-100. I have hearing loss around the tone you all might be referring too and perfer to "hear the noise" so I do not wear a full face anytime of the year or weather.

I think also it is what you concentrate on, if you think about a noise and are always "looking" for it, it is always there and it will annoy you. I'm too occupied scanning in front and behind me and enjoying the ride that I sometimes forget to turn the tunes on.

If I do catch a noise, I'll isolate it in my mind and determine if it is just normal or should I stop and check it, like when I have a dead body dragging under the bike or something of that nature. Other than that, let it ride...
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Big Al
Posted 2010-01-01 2:22 PM (#50498 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 64
Hot Springs Village, Arkansas
I use a full face Arai that is quieter than my old Shoei, but not so good with vents open, or a decent half helmet in summer, with the half helmet ear plugs are required. I prefer to use the moldable silicon ear plugs/covers, they don't kill all the noise, but all the bothersome buffeting sound is gone. They actually make it much easier to hear clear music! These plugs are at Wally world in clear(reg. size) and hot orange(smaller ears), they are very comfortable.
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-01-01 4:21 PM (#50500 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
+1 on the ear plugs. If I do more than five to ten miles I put in ear plugs. I use the Nolan 103N (Winter and sometimes in the summer) and the EXO-100 (Summer and sometimes in the winter).

It would be interesting if someone would design a helmet for us that have wind protection.

When I ride with the Nolan I always keep the winsheild all the way down, regardless or speed. On the EXO-100 I use the windsheild to tune the pocket of air at head level as needed.

Ride safe!
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lonestarrider
Posted 2010-01-01 8:14 PM (#50508 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 104
Try this one, NEXX X60 Vintage

http://tinyurl.com/yjullnl
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freezeradio
Posted 2010-01-01 8:46 PM (#50510 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Oswego,, Illinois,USA
I have a Shoei RF-1000. in the Artifact paint . Silver and black. Matches the vision.
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Teach
Posted 2010-01-01 9:55 PM (#50513 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 1436
Bell Mag 8 or HJC Symax but usually the Bell http://www.bellhelmets.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&ca...
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-01-02 10:11 PM (#50576 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
Has anyone seen the Nolan line of helmets in Pearl Sky. In photos, it looks like a close match for Blue Ice. A matching helmet would be nice.
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Digby
Posted 2010-01-03 7:56 AM (#50593 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 141
Lift the windshield about 2" . It quiets down dramatically.
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Tennessee Vision
Posted 2010-01-03 9:21 AM (#50598 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 117
Spring Hill, Tennessee
The Shoei X-11. Vents well and is very quiet!
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-01-03 10:58 AM (#50606 - in reply to #50508)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Fountain Inn, SC United States
lonestarrider - 2010-01-01 8:14 PM

Try this one, NEXX X60 Vintage

http://tinyurl.com/yjullnl


I really like the look of this helmet. WebBikeWorld's was impressed with the quality but the price for a "half" or 3/4 helmet was steep. Still, I'll be scanning ebay & craigslist for deals.
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SongFan
Posted 2010-01-04 8:20 PM (#50708 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

webBikeWorld likes the Nolan N43 "Air" as it's 2009 helmet of the year.  Also selected the "Andie" LED flashlight from our new friends at Clearwater as the Tool of the Year.  (The "Air" isn't available in the States but may be an option for newzealandvision since he started this thread.)

http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycles/best-motorcycle-products-2009.htm



Edited by SongFan 2010-01-04 8:26 PM
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-01-07 6:55 AM (#50904 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
Wow, that Nexx is a sweet looking helmet, so is the Cromwell Spitfire. Thanks for the post.
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flint350
Posted 2010-01-07 10:29 AM (#50909 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 189
Baltimore, Md
I have a couple of helmets and the quietest by far that I have used is the Schuberth C3. It was video reviewed by webbikeworld and chosen as their choice in 08 for quiet. It's not sold in the USA due to not being DOT certified (though it IS certified to the higher European standard). I bought mine from the UK and like it a lot for noise attenuation. BUT - it is quite expensive. Of course, you usually get what you pay for.

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radioteacher
Posted 2010-01-07 12:26 PM (#50914 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
A non-rider asked what my Nolan helmet costs. I said it listed for about $350. Their expression was like "Man, that is steep!"

I told them that it was not even close to the "Expensive" helmets in price.

Then I follow with "$350, I think my head is worth at least that much."

Ride Safe
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TheLoveDoctor
Posted 2010-01-07 2:28 PM (#50920 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 105
Columbia, TN United States
Your non-rider would have had heart failure, if he had asked how much is invested in our Visions with all the added goodies we like to put on them.
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Candyman
Posted 2010-01-07 2:43 PM (#50922 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 204
West Knoxville TN
Arai is my choice. I never noticed any noise even on the Busa. Turn up the radio.
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SongFan
Posted 2010-01-07 3:06 PM (#50924 - in reply to #50914)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

radioteacher - 2010-01-07 12:26 PM A non-rider asked what my Nolan helmet costs. I said it listed for about $350. Their expression was like "Man, that is steep!" I told them that it was not even close to the "Expensive" helmets in price. Then I follow with "$350, I think my head is worth at least that much." Ride Safe

My answer to him would have been:  "You could probably get away with one that cost about 50 bucks." 

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metalguy
Posted 2010-01-07 7:55 PM (#50939 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I have a full face Caberg Justissimo that is very quiet. I usually ride with a 3/4 helmet, and reserve the Caberg for c-cold weather (below 30F)-----Metalguy
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Chief Waldo
Posted 2010-01-07 8:11 PM (#50941 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 64
I wear an HJC FS3 open face. Even in the cold. I figure that if I could ski with my face exposed, I could sit behind the Vision's windshield that way...





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iluvink
Posted 2010-01-07 10:02 PM (#50951 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 411
Dallas, Texas
What helmet on a Vision?
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-01-07 10:17 PM (#50952 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
Chief Waldo:

I've transitioned to the Vision but my helmet is stuck in the 70's (HJC CL-5) and needs to be retired.

I cant deal with a helmet without a visor, and I'm just not ready for another layer of plastic between me and the world (Glasses/ face-shield and wind-screen) so all these new flip down sunscreens are not for me.

So, a couple of questions if you please...

Is the visor worth a darn?
How do you like the air management on this helmet? Does all that Battle-star Galactica stuff actually vent the helmet or is it still a sauna in hot weather like the old style lids?

Thanks

Edited by Tarpits99 2010-01-07 10:24 PM
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freezeradio
Posted 2010-01-07 10:39 PM (#50953 - in reply to #50952)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Oswego,, Illinois,USA
They have some pretty nice helmets out there.$500.00 and up will buy a great helmet /Paint to match your bike.I use a fullface on long rides and a half helmet around here. I saw what iI liked at motorcyclesuperstore .Then I went to a shop and sised myself for it.Then went back to the online store and made my purchase. saved some money that way.I ended up with a Shoei RF-1000 In silver and black ,The Artifact design.It was $427.00. Free shipping over $75.00.I also have a Bell drifter in matte black.80 bucks
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lowtone9
Posted 2010-01-08 5:36 AM (#50954 - in reply to #50939)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 140
Multitec, earplugs.
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freezeradio
Posted 2010-01-08 10:21 AM (#50961 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 96
Oswego,, Illinois,USA
Man I got my shoei for 427 now alot cheeper look...http://www.compacc.com/p.cfm/c/1201001/p/18329
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Wizard523
Posted 2010-01-08 12:34 PM (#50973 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


Tourer

Posts: 506
Woodland Hills, CA
Use ear plugs (I have for many years), and get the helmet that fits you the best. If a helmet doesn't fit well, it doesn't matter how quiet it is.
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Chief Waldo
Posted 2010-01-08 7:26 PM (#51001 - in reply to #50952)
Subject: Re: What helmet on a Vision?


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Posts: 64
Tarpits99 - 2010-01-07 11:17 PM

Chief Waldo:

I've transitioned to the Vision but my helmet is stuck in the 70's (HJC CL-5) and needs to be retired.

I cant deal with a helmet without a visor, and I'm just not ready for another layer of plastic between me and the world (Glasses/ face-shield and wind-screen) so all these new flip down sunscreens are not for me.

So, a couple of questions if you please...

Is the visor worth a darn?
How do you like the air management on this helmet? Does all that Battle-star Galactica stuff actually vent the helmet or is it still a sauna in hot weather like the old style lids?

Thanks


This time of year, the sun is so low, the visor isn't worth much. But, throughout the summer, it's worked fine for me. The helmet comes with both a shield and a visor. I took the shield right off, installed the visor, and haven't even considered switching back.
There is an airflow switch over the forehead. To me, it makes a noticeable difference. I wore the helmet all summer and was never too hot... I've suffered while wearing a half helmet in the summer. This is way better.
I went to the 2009 New York motorcycle show looking to try on and buy an open face helmet. I was disappointed. There weren't very many helmet vendors there. But there were helmet companies demoing their products, so I checked out a bunch and decided on the FS3. I then started shopping around. My local dealer wanted $170, but when I added shipping to most on-line prices, the dealer was in the mix. I then found an ebay seller offering them with both a "buy it now" and a "best offer" price. I made an offer that totaled $120 including shipping. The seller accepted it.
When I got it, as I said, it had the face shield installed. I went to take the shield off, and noticed the clip holding it was broken. I called up the seller. They asked me to send them a picture of the broken part. When I did, they sent me out a replacement part right away. I mounted the part and the visor, and have been a happy customer.


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Smitty
Posted 2010-01-10 2:29 PM (#51082 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: Nothing goes on this head but an Arai. Best you can get


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Posts: 273
because my head is the best I can ever have.
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ElroyJ
Posted 2010-01-10 9:31 PM (#51098 - in reply to #50477)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Tourer

Posts: 460
Centennial, CO
Hey all,

I have been reading this with quite a bit of interest.

The facts are simple. Each person will like helmets for any number of reasons. Some like the looks and forget about functionality while others go with functionality over looks. I have several different types of helmets and even set myself up as an authorized CMS Helmets dealer because I like the look, functionality and overall aspect of their 3/4 helmet. You might take a look at what they offer and let me know if you would like me to order something in. The sizes run small so if you wear a large, order an XL...Small = Medium...etc.

One thing I will say is simply this; Your head is worth as much as you care to spend on it (as said by one post to the non-rider (not in those words)). I have had simple plastic shells that looked great but would probably do little in the event of a drop and other helmets that I have no doubt would protect me very well.

Keep in mind that 3/4 shells do NOT protect your face AT ALL. I don't care what any person tells you. If you wear a full-face, you will find that while it is noisy on the Vision, it offers much better protection. You will be amazed at just how much the front of a full-face takes a beating when someone hits the ground.

I uploaded a pic here so you can see the CMS helmet I own. Love it and I really like the new models of the DJET they came out with this year.

You can also check the rest of the models and makes here: http://www.cms-helmets.com/?cat=3&item=146




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Vinner1
Posted 2010-01-10 10:16 PM (#51101 - in reply to #51098)
Subject: RE: What helmet on a Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
I got mine from ElroyJ....love em!

Aviator flip up lens built into the helmet...way cool as are the vents on top...super light weight!

Me and my daughter heading out...intercom works great so we can chat. Well, she chats...I listen.



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