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| I was referred here from another forum. I'm curious about the life expectancy of this particular motor and tranny. (106/6-speed, not Vic's in general.) I'm not looking for guarantees, just want to get a feel for what's typical, and what issues have shown up. Any high-mileage Visions out there? Care to share your stories, the good the bad, and the ugly?
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | Since Visions have only been out a couple of years there isn't any super mileage units out there. However there are many members here who are in the 40k area and one member who I think is scratching 60k+. No engine problems on any of these....so far. If you are looking for the good/bad/ugly about Visions in general spend a few hours looking around the forums here and you will find tons of posts covering all areas of what you are looking for. Mostly good to great, some bad but very few ugly (if any)
Edited by Lotzafun 2010-02-22 3:13 PM
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Pittsburgh, PA | i seen a few people on here in the 40k-50-60k range with no motor or trany issues. I notice you name is rogue, that is a slang name for a kawasaki vn2000, dont know if you own one or not. but i heard from a friend on delphi that more than a few people on there had to get their tranys and engines rebuilt! High oil consumption, trany shifting problems etc. Ive had my vision for 2 years and it doesnt even use a drop of oil between changes! I love it! here is something else to think about.. alot of motorcycle company make many different sizes of engines. example of kaw would be 250,500,600,750,900,1400,1600,1700,2000 and i imagine i missed a few. Victory makes (2) 100 & 106. You get alot more time,research and attention from a company that makes 2 different engine sizes vs one that has a different engine for each market group out there. (my opinion) you also get companies that will invest the time and money into high performance parts since they dont need to make 20 different ones.. lol I also like the idea of my vision having roller rockers ! |
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Jasper, MO | I know you asked about the Vision specifically, but they've only been out a couple of years. I've been a Victory owner for the past 10 years. While I can't claim what I would call particularly high mileage on either of my Victorys (my job keeps me from home and riding as much as I would like), I can tell you that there are many high mileage Victorys, including the earlier 92 inch 5 speed models. There are several with over 100,000 miles on them. The reliability of my 2000 model Victory encouraged me to buy my 2008 Vision. The 106/6 speed is an evolution of an engine that has been around as a 100/6 speed for several years now. I fully expect the motor and tranny to go 100,000 miles with no problems.
Check out the JD Power quality ratings for motorcycles for the past couple of years. Victory beat everybody, including Honda.
Back in 2008, when the bikes were first introduced, two couples from New Zealand came to our shores, bought two new Visions, and proceeded to tour the USA on them. After touring the USA and Canada, they had the bikes shipped to Europe and toured on them over there, then shipped back to the USA for more touring, then to New Zealand. I know they racked up over 40,000 miles in short order. Check out their blog and their links to their daily journals from the trip. http://www.bumsonbikes.co.nz
http://www.bumsonbikes.co.nz/journal.php
Ronnie
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New Bohemia, VA | I've got 62,500 on mine and I find so far this motor is bullet-proof. It is stock and nothing has been done to it except change oil and plugs. I did have extreme popping and stalling when I first got it, but it turned out to be a header exhaust leak I had from the factory. All is well now. I found it a solid motor and from here I don't have any concerns well past 100,000 miles, but time will tell, won't it.
Edited by varyder 2010-02-24 4:08 AM
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Western WA | Varyder, my hats off to you man. That is some serious saddle time. |
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Newbury Park CA | 65,000 no problems |
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Savage, MN | I've been riding Victory's since 2001 and have well over 100,000 combined miles on the 92ci up to the 106 on my Vision. All I have to do is; change oil, tires, turn the key and go! They are truly bullet proof! |
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on the edge of Los Angeles | 36,000 and 1 set of plugs later I await a major issue so I can tear into it and re-do with cams pistons and head work. I have a feeling I will need to wait a while for that to happen. ( It may be a classic by then) By the time this happens I am sure I will have purchased another bike while the Vision is down for rebuild. That will need to be since I got the wife her own bike and she does not want to share -- her bike-- with me...
Not trying to wear it out but I ride it most of the time when I am not working... |
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Salisbury, NC | My mileage count is listed below. ET |
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New Bohemia, VA | a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great! |
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Central Maryland | varyder - 2011-09-27 11:58 AM
a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great!
Congratulations!  |
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Okeefenokee Swamp | Got my Vision in December 2008 and just broke 41,000. The only problem I have had is keeping the tires on it and changing the oil at regular intervals. I am expecting nothing less than 120,000 to 150,000 before the need to do any major work.Maybe I am overly expectant/optimistic |
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East TN | varyder - 2011-09-27 11:58 AM a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great! WOW!!! Congrats...Wish I had the time to ride that much...
Edited by joe schmoe 2011-09-27 11:47 AM
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New Bohemia, VA | Thanks for the congrats. I wish I had more time to ride too, I'd probably have 200,000 miles on it by now if I did.  |
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Cabot Arkansas | varyder - 2011-09-27 10:58 AM
a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great!
You must be really glad you don't have one of the newer bikes with the 100,000 mile transmission's about now 
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New Bohemia, VA | Maverick - 2011-09-27 1:11 PM
varyder - 2011-09-27 10:58 AM
a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great!
You must be really glad you don't have one of the newer bikes with the 100,000 mile transmission's about now
Funny you should say that. Shortly after going over the 100,000 mile mark my belt broke a lug (another thread about it) and I thought the tranny was going, I just laughed at that thought. |
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Akron Ohio area | 23,000 miles in 10 months.
My only real complaint is I have to stop way too often to put more gas in her. |
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, FL United States | varyder - 2011-09-27 11:58 AM
a follow up - currently have 101,670+ miles on the clock, running great!
Chris, if you don't slow down I'll NEVER catch up to you LOL |
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Buford, GA United States | Just made it to 46,000 this weekend and I have had no problems to speak of. Heading to Myrtle Beach in 10 days and by the time "Miss Vicky" turns 4 on December 5th I will be at an average of 1,000 miles a month since I brought her home. |
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Tucson, AZ | Just clicked over 72K this morning...great motor. Just plugs and oil.....
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Chino Valley, AZ | 56,800 as of yesterday. Bought used 2008 Vision Premium in June and have put 9,800 mile on her since then with no problems. |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Seeing all these posts with high mileage is great news to me. I have 27k on my '08 and ride every day there is no snow. Looks like I will be riding trouble free for a long time. |
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Lindale, TX | 16500 first oil change.
Just kidding. Best part of Victory is dependability of engine and transmission. |
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Memphis | According to Kelly Blue Book, expected average mileage for a 2008 touring bike (750cc and above, all brands) is 16,120. The typical Vision owner is not close to being the typical motorcycle owner (on so many levels). I'm at 54,000+. |
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Indianapolis, IN | 2010 bought new 18 months ago........... 28,500 miles today = 1583 miles / month average and no issues to date!
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Akron Ohio area | Songfan, please post that link because it is so unbelievable. |
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Memphis |  Mileage/Condition Street and TouringAVERAGE EXPECTED ACCUMULATED MILEAGE | Engine Displacement in cc's | | 2011 | 930 | 1280 | 2200 | 2920 | | 2010 | 2330 | 3205 | 5500 | 7320 | | 2009 | 3730 | 5130 | 8800 | 11720 | | 2008 | 5130 | 7055 | 12100 | 16120 | | 2007 | 6530 | 8980 | 15400 | 20520 | | 2006 | 7930 | 10905 | 18700 | 24920 | | 2005 | 9330 | 12830 | 22000 | 29320 | | 2004 | 10730 | 14755 | 25300 | 33720 | | 2003 | 12130 | 16680 | 28600 | 38120 | | 2002 | 13530 | 18605 | 31900 | 42520 |
Figures shown are for expected accumulated average mileage. Actual mileages may differ substantially. Because of variances in riding styles and road conditions, it is impossible for us to determine accurate dollar values for mileage. Overall condition factors will have a far greater impact on a value than the actual mileage. |
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Akron Ohio area | 8. What is the average yearly mileage for a motorcycle?
Obviously mileage will vary from year to year and model to model. A simple guide could be to consider the type of bike you are looking at: If the bike is a sportbike 600 c.c. to 999 c.c., and since these bikes are traditionally weekend only bikes, you can expect to see lower miles, about 3,000 miles per year. Tourers or Sport Tourers usually see a lot of miles, but these are generally freeway miles, between 5,000 to 6,000 miles per year. |
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New Bohemia, VA | very nice, another reason I never think of resale value, I look for usable value, I've got more than my monies worth with the Bentley. |
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Puddle Jumper
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South Central Pennsylvania | 2011 Vogue Silver named "ASTRO" purchased in May with 12500 miles on her now. She is my daily commute to work two hours each way, and very comfortable |
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South Central Pennsylvania | 2011 Vogue Silver named "ASTRO" purchased in May with 12500 miles on her now. She is my daily commute to work two hours each way, and very comfortable |
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Reedley, CA | 41k no problems..love it
2008 black cherry premium tour |
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Memphis | I just did a quick snapshot on Ebay for 2008 Touring bikes for sale today. (No 2008 Visions for sale.) Mileage Ultra Classic Goldwing K1200lt Less than 10K 13 5 10-20K 5 2 20-30K 4 3 1 30-40K 2 1 40K+ 2 The KBB numbers look pretty accurate after seeing this. |
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New Bohemia, VA | bikers are hard to figure out. I would say there are plenty out there that will have an average of 30,000 miles a year or higher, but you'll never see them on ebay, much less on this forum. I am not shocked at this nada assessment, because that is where the mass is for any given model.
I know at least 3 harley owners that have their bikes "for sale" and they hardly ever ride. They are asking way to much for them, and believe they'll one day get that price for dispite 2 of them have been "for sale" for over two years now. I have another friend that was on his third harley and he buys for the resale value. He buys the nice one with all the stuff, but he doesn't use the stuff, like matching helmets and comm headsets. They stay in the box and he rides minimal miles each year then sells with things still in the box.
IF, a big IF I was going to sell my Vision, even after having it a year with 30,000 miles, I would not have used the nada, I would have used my payoff, considering I put half down up front.
The book is not for those who ride, but those who buy and sell, or the buyer looking for a well taken care of, hardly ridden bike. By the way, acronym NADA is the same spelling for the spanish word nada = nothng, hmmmm |
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Brighton, TN | Hard to believe I have a few more miles than SongFan. SongFan, are you having engine or transmission problems? Something broke or is the Classic Vision disassembled? Just curious as I am normally trailing you in mileage! Just a little panicky! I know you offered your bike up for a "Fix" Ride, so do I need to extend that hand also.
Well the mileage numbers are right in line with what we have discussed here for many years. The average rider is around the 2k-3k mileage. Which then your maintenance requirements are then established for those folks. Maybe the manufacturer needs to come out with the heavy mileage schedule. |
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Memphis | Had to cancel the AVR and a 23 day/6,000 round trip to Vancouver this summer. Right hip is falling apart on me, still trying to sort it out. Still riding to work but no long trips. Will make up for lost time next year! |
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Princeton, IL | 42,000 on my '08 and no issues other than the ones I cause!
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Brighton, TN | Sorry to hear about the hip! Are you using assistance ie - walker, cane, wheelchair? Do you need stickers we can decorate or maybe even chrome. Just trying to help! Hope it gets to feeling better! |
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Iron Butt
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