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Central Wisconsin | I installed the Lloydz (IAV) and had a heck of a time attaching the rubber hoses. Couldn't get my fingers working in all the right places between the jug heads. I just want to past on what worked for me. I ended up taking the hard plastic hoses off from the other side. Then feed them back through the Idle Air Controller side.  |
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Pittsburgh, PA | so when do we hear about the results of how it works? |
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Northeast Ohio | I have mine on too. Much better than having the IAC disconnected, but still don't have fast idle warm-up. Going to swing by Lloyds minishop in Daytona, since I am here, and see if there is anything else that can be done. There is mention in the instructions about adjusting the VFCIII to lean it out a bit. I haven't done that yet. |
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Central Wisconsin | Arkainzeye - 2010-02-28 6:54 PM so when do we hear about the results of how it works? Good question... when ever the snow melts. LOL! 
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Central Wisconsin | ScoreBo - 2010-02-28 7:09 PM I have mine on too. Much better than having the IAC disconnected, but still don't have fast idle warm-up. Going to swing by Lloyds minishop in Daytona, since I am here, and see if there is anything else that can be done. There is mention in the instructions about adjusting the VFCIII to lean it out a bit. I haven't done that yet. It's going to interesting what you find out from Lloyds. I don't have a fuel controller yet, maybe when/if I decide to do the cams. I didn't have any popping when running the bike standing still in the driveway. I had to adjust the Idle Air Valve (IAV) a second time for a 1000 rpm idle. 
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Northeast Ohio | Gonna run over there tomorrow morning after I test ride a Can-Am Spyder. I'll post tomorrow night. |
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ScoreBo - 2010-02-28 8:00 PM Gonna run over there tomorrow morning after I test ride a Can-Am Spyder. I'll post tomorrow night. I know a recently retired Florida couple that have a 2008 Spyder and just bought, I believe it's a 2010 RTS Spyder. 
I see your from Ohio, we have a Baraboo, Wisconsin (ride) planned in June and some people from Ohio will be attending. Plus two couples from Florida both with 2010 Spyders. 
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Cold lake Alberta | Great looking LC, I do miss my 02 from time to time!
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Thomas - 2010-02-28 7:38 PM
ScoreBo - 2010-02-28 8:00 PM Gonna run over there tomorrow morning after I test ride a Can-Am Spyder. I'll post tomorrow night. ? ? I know a recently retired Florida couple that have a 2008 Spyder and just bought, I believe it's a 2010 RTS Spyder.? ? I see your from Ohio, we have a? Baraboo, Wisconsin??? (ride) ?? planned in June and some people from Ohio will be attending. Plus two couples from Florida both with 2010 Spyders. ? ? ? ? |
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Central Wisconsin | salty - 2010-03-01 8:52 AM Great looking LC, I do miss my 02 from time to time! Salty Thanks Salty, I have to say that my "99 Legendary Classic Suzuki 1500 Intruder is a real keeper I turned it into a solo cruiser for work and use the Vision for 2up.
 
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Northeast Ohio | I talked to Lloyd today. We are lucky to have such a dedicated individual working on the development of our go fast goodies. It looks like I have to do some adjustments to get it 100%. Of course, you have to do this cold. So I will be working on this tomorrow. |
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ScoreBo - 2010-03-01 8:23 PM I talked to Lloyd today. We are lucky to have such a dedicated individual working on the development of our go fast goodies. It looks like I have to do some adjustments to get it 100%. Of course, you have to do this cold. So I will be working on this tomorrow. I'm curious to find out if you get good first results with only adjusting the Idle Air Valve (IAV) and not having to adjust your VFC lll. 
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Allen Park, MI | ScoreBo - 2010-03-01 9:23 PM
I talked to Lloyd today. We are lucky to have such a dedicated individual working on the development of our go fast goodies. It looks like I have to do some adjustments to get it 100%. Of course, you have to do this cold. So I will be working on this tomorrow.
Hey John...would you mind sharing Lloyd's insight?? My valve and new exhaust gaskets arrive tomorrow and I would like to get right to it.
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Northeast Ohio | My biggest issue is that my dealer had disconnected my IAC last year to help with the popping, which it did. I think I have the IAC back to the factory state (idle speed) and need to now work on adjusting Lloyds IAV. His recommendation is to open up the IAV to support fast idle to about 1100-1200 rpm. So you have to do this when it is cold. He recommended 1/2 turns on the IAV until you get there. He also said not many should need to adjust the VFCIII if you have one.
I also found that a little silicon spray on my fingers rubbed onto the plastic hoses really helped out with getting the IAV installed. I, too, was afraid of breaking the plastic tubes that come down from the intake. |
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Northeast Ohio | Prostreet - Lloyd was kind enough to post the instructions on the IAV install here: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/get-attachment.asp?attachmen...
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Pittsburgh, PA | ScoreBo - 2010-03-02 11:29 AM
My biggest issue is that my dealer had disconnected my IAC last year to help with the popping, which it did. I think I have the IAC back to the factory state (idle speed) and need to now work on adjusting Lloyds IAV. His recommendation is to open up the IAV to support fast idle to about 1100-1200 rpm. So you have to do this when it is cold. He recommended 1/2 turns on the IAV until you get there. He also said not many should need to adjust the VFCIII if you have one.
I also found that a little silicon spray on my fingers rubbed onto the plastic hoses really helped out with getting the IAV installed. I, too, was afraid of breaking the plastic tubes that come down from the intake.
just wondering if your dealer disconnected your IAV and it stopped the popping, why do you want to reconnect it and then use the lloyds setup ? is there an Advantage to using the IAV? |
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Northeast Ohio | Arkainzeye, on cold mornings, I had to keep the throttle manually opened with my hand to keep the bike running until warm with the IAC disconnected. I am hopeful that with the IAV properly adjusted that I will have some cold fast idle back so I don't have to do this. Disconnecting the IAC did help (about 90%) with my popping. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | ScoreBo. just wondering how cold was "too cold" to start the vision without having to Hold the throttle ? Im really looking for someone that has the new Lloyd product to see if its worth it or not? |
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LaPorte,Tx. | I've had the valve on for a few days now. It started fine at 30 degrees. Idle was at 1000-1100 rpm. I have not had time to make small adjustments yet. Is it worth it? |
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Northeast Ohio | Arkainzeye - 2010-03-10 9:07 PM
ScoreBo. just wondering how cold was "too cold" to start the vision without having to Hold the throttle ? Im really looking for someone that has the new Lloyd product to see if its worth it or not?
less than 50 degrees |
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Pittsburgh, PA | ScoreBo - 2010-03-11 6:36 AM
Arkainzeye - 2010-03-10 9:07 PM
ScoreBo. just wondering how cold was "too cold" to start the vision without having to Hold the throttle ? Im really looking for someone that has the new Lloyd product to see if its worth it or not?
less than 50 degrees
I was bored this evening and looking at the power commander V user guide (online) you mentioned about the dealer disabling the IAV? and that you had to give it MORE fuel to im guessing
"enrichen" the mixture when the temps were colder? here is a copy and paste from the PCV website. do you think what they said would counter act the need for you to hold your throttle on a cold start?
Start up fuel
Start up fuel can be based on time or engine
temperature. Choose what mode from the
drop down menu.
Time - from the first revolution of the crank
the software will deliver a set percentage of
fuel for a given amount of time in seconds
Engine temp - the software will deliver a percentage
of fuel over the fuel map based on
engine temperature. This can only be used
if engine temperature has been configured.
all of what i copied and paste was to show these things are user adjustable... do you think with that PCV you could just disable the IAV and use the pcv to enriched the mix on a cold start or for the first (xx) seconds of a start up? any thoughts? |
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, IA | so i installed lloyds iav myidle is a 900+rpm's is this going to cause my enignes problems put on 90 miles today lots of stops and everything else worked fine just a low idle ???engin startes good 1000+rpm thanks dennis
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Central Wisconsin | sonicbluerider - 2010-04-10 12:35 PM so i installed lloyds iav myidle is a 900+rpm's is this going to cause my enignes problems put on 90 miles today lots of stops and everything else worked fine just a low idle ???engin startes good 1000+rpm thanks dennis Mine revs up to about 1100 rpm when cold and settles in at 1000 rpm. Been satisfied over all with the annoying exhaust pops gone.
Maybe you need to do another cold adjustment. Tom  |
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LaPorte,Tx. | sonicbluerider - 2010-04-10 11:35 AM
so i installed lloyds iav myidle is a 900+rpm's is this going to cause my enignes problems put on 90 miles today lots of stops and everything else worked fine just a low idle ???engin startes good 1000+rpm thanks dennis
That's pretty close to what mine idles at when hot...upper 900, just below 1000 on the tach. |
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, IA | thanks i was getting worried |
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Lloydz Idle Air Valve Installed