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Visionary
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| Just thought I'd post an easy fix for the kickstand rubber pad. If your pad is getting worn, torn off or even if it has begun ripping this repair will work. Go to any Lowe's and near the paint section you'll find some cans of "PLASTI DIP" by Performix. It is a multi-purpose rubber coating liqud for hand tools and comes in a variety of colors to include black.
You will need to find a way to raise the bike off the side stand, lift or just tie the bike off with straps to hold it upright and off the side stand. Next you'll need a shallow dish, I use one of those glad easy seal dishes and I pour enough of the dip into the pan to cover the foot of the stand. Then you simply dip the stand foot into the dip until it is covered. Lower the dish and let it drip back into the pan. You'll need to repeat this process every 30 minutes until you have a thickness built up you feel good with. Normally 3-4 dips will do.
Once done drain the remaining dip back into the can and reseal it. Thats all there is to it and the rubber has just been replaced without needing to buy a new pad. And you won't need to hunt for someone who can install the rivets. I believe it cost me $4 for a can a year ago when I first needed to do this repair and I'll be redoing mine in the next few days using the same can.
Hope this helps some of you. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Galt California | GREAT TIP !! Thanks |
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Tourer
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SC, Bluffton | This is my first Victory. I have only had 100% metal japanese kickstands touching my floor. My Visions' rubber is almost 50% torn through. My sincere and unknowledged question is, what if I just remove the rubber? Why is it there? What is the purpose, or function over just metal?
Thank you, Herb |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | Hasn't your metal stand ever Mar someones driveway? My vn2k put a large mark in my friends concrete driveway. My visions stand never did this |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | I believe the purpose of the rubber is to push the kickstand up when it contacts the ground in the event the rider forgets to kick it up before riding off.
Edited by victoryvisiontour 2010-04-27 3:30 PM
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Tourer
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20 miles west of Chicago. | Its purpose is flip the kickstand up when it contacts the ground if the bike is moving with the stand down, because you forgot to raise it before taking off. It works quite well. Nevermind how I know that. |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | Mine is gone completely as of a week ago. I would be worried about messing up the nice epoxy paint on my garage floor if I didn't have a thick rubber floormat down just for the kickstand. My Yamaha 1100's stand was tearing up the cement in my old house. Picked the floormat up for $5. I'll replace when I get to a dealer to order one. I stopped by the dealer in Sarasota last week on my way home from work, and it looks like the closed their doors too. |
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Visionary
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| Yes the kicksand rubber piece is there to push the stand up in the event you forget to. This is particularly important on the Victory bikes that bolt the stand to the pan. Run it or don't, makes no difference to me. This was simply an inexpensive fix to a common wear issue. |
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Cruiser
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Central Victoria, Australia | Doesn't the pad also give a greater surface area to stop the
bike sinking on soft surfaces including hot bitumen?
Most bikes have a safety lock out switch for the stands being down
they are prone to fail mainly due their exposed position.
You can't start your bike when that happens.
I think the rubber is a more reliable option .
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Tourer
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Northeastern Penna. | That's a good alternative to repairing the rubber on the sidestand. I did replace my rubber boot and it was rather simple to do. After taking the sidestand off of the bike,you place the stand in a vise. Simply drill out the stock rivots. One thing I did do was place 2 washers under each rivot when I put the new one on.It makes for a tighter fit and my sidestand boot still looks new with this method. |
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Tourer
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Grand Cane, LA | I have a burning question about this kickstand thing since hearing about it a little while back. If you leave your kickstand down and try to take off, won't your bike just die anyway when the clutch switch engages? I thought that was a safety feature to remind you that you left it down to begin with. So why worry about the rubber other than to save your neighbors driveway. Metal will kick up just as easy as rubber. I know, too much time on my hands to be thinking about this.
Edited by atvtinker 2010-04-27 9:54 PM
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | Than't only on metric bikes. I used to kill the engine on my Yamaha by putting the kickstand down with the bike in gear when I parked. Took me dumping the clutch a couple of times on the Vision to break that habit. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | don't have the rubber on and haven't for over 40,000 miles, don't even miss it.... |
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Visionary
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| I will be interested in how long the dip lasts for you. I have used it in a couple of situations and it did not last very long at all when in a fiction area.
Possibly find a piece of heater just under size and heat it up and slide it on?
I always wanted kickstand safety switches on Victorys but ain't happened yet. I wouldn't trust the rubber piece to raise your kickstand. Could be there so your boot doesn't slip off it when you try to lower it? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I had used a leather piece for a while but the little bolts keep backing out. The leather seemed much more durable, as my rubber piece was toast after about 5,000 miles. My ineptness may get me from time to time, but leaving the kick down has not been my downfall with or without the screwy little sense of false security. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | atvtinker - 2010-04-27 10:50 PM
...So why worry about the rubber other than to save your neighbors driveway. Metal will kick up just as easy as rubber. I know, too much time on my hands to be thinking about this.
I used to think a metal kickstand would fold up just the same as rubber when contacting the ground while in motion. However, experience has changed my mind. I have seen more than one rubberless kickstand break off because they "stab" the ground. I had it happen to me on another bike, but fortunately it did not break. It almost caused me to crash though. |
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Tourer
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SC, Bluffton | Teach - 2010-04-27 4:52 PM
Run it or don't, makes no difference to me. This was simply an inexpensive fix to a common wear issue.
And I thank you very much for your posting about it. Please don't take my writing wrong. I couldn't do most of the things I have done without folks like yourself posting things like this. Like I said, mine is just half way eaten through, so I very well might be applying your mod. 
Herb |
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| g1nomad - 2010-04-28 4:08 PM Teach - 2010-04-27 4:52 PM Run it or don't, makes no difference to me. This was simply an inexpensive fix to a common wear issue. And I thank you very much for your posting about it. Please don't take my writing wrong. I couldn't do most of the things I have done without folks like yourself posting things like this. Like I said, mine is just half way eaten through, so I very well might be applying your mod. Herb Would something like this work? Won't scratch driveways, serves as the new wear piece, can't really see it, unless someone points it out to them. 
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | certainly seem to be a viable solution |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | NOEMTZ,
Is it on your web site? That would do the trick for me! |
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Visionary
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| g1nomad, wasn't offended at all, sorry if it appeared so.
Reddog, I did my first dip of the stand last year and it lasted an entire season. I'm going to dip it again here soon but it would likely go this summer before needing it.
NOEMTZ, looks like it would work fine. Teflon? |
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Visionary
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Memphis | I like the concept but it would have to be about as thin as the rubber. The Vision doesn't have a lot of room to add underneath the kickstand before it feels like it is standing straight up. |
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| radioteacher - 2010-04-28 8:42 PM NOEMTZ, Is it on your web site? That would do the trick for me! No..it's not on the website. Sorry...this is actually the first prototype. Just making sure all is good before mass producing. Would this be something some of you are interested in? Working on second prototype now. I have promised it to someone else for testing when it's done with the promise of a complete review. It is made out of Teflon, and is only about 1/8" thicker then the original rubber pad. I know it looks thick in the close up, but it's not really. |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | I was thinking that it could be thicker then that.......but I also want the extender so I guess that I could use both.
Thanks, keep up the good work.
Edited by radioteacher 2010-04-29 10:32 AM
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Tourer
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SC, Bluffton | NOEMTZ - 2010-04-28 9:37 PM
radioteacher - 2010-04-28 8:42 PM NOEMTZ, Is it on your web site? That would do the trick for me! No..it's not on the website. Sorry...this is actually the first prototype. Just making sure all is good before mass producing. Would this be something some of you are interested in? Working on second prototype now. I have promised it to someone else for testing when it's done with the promise of a complete review.? It is made out of Teflon, and is only about 1/8" thicker then the original rubber pad. I know it looks thick in the close up, but it's not really. ? ?
First, was my 2008 "premium" tourer supposed to come with a georgeous chrome kickstand like that, 'cause it didn't.
Second, I could be interested in that, and what website do you have?
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| g1nomad - 2010-04-30 11:37 AM NOEMTZ - 2010-04-28 9:37 PM radioteacher - 2010-04-28 8:42 PM NOEMTZ, Is it on your web site? That would do the trick for me! No..it's not on the website. Sorry...this is actually the first prototype. Just making sure all is good before mass producing. Would this be something some of you are interested in? Working on second prototype now. I have promised it to someone else for testing when it's done with the promise of a complete review.? It is made out of Teflon, and is only about 1/8" thicker then the original rubber pad. I know it looks thick in the close up, but it's not really. ? ? First, was my 2008 "premium" tourer supposed to come with a georgeous chrome kickstand like that, 'cause it didn't. Second, I could be interested in that, and what website do you have? HerbSorry for the late reply....was out taking advantage of some decent riding weather. www.noemtz.com I am probably going to go ahead and produce a few more prototypes due to the small interest here.
Keep in mind, they will made by hand, one at a time right now. No plans for mass producing yet.
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Kickstand rubber repair