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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | GRRRRRRR..... |
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Hot Springs Village, Arkansas | Better do a search Gary, don't go there !!! |
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New Bohemia, VA | Gary, what donetracy was trying to say until his computer crashed was "GRRRRRREAT! because he loves to answer oil questions. He usually recommends the virgin oil blend for the '08s which seems to be the best. What is good is that Victory is coming out with the kit where you can mix your own oil known as the Victory Oil Change Kit. If you want 10w40 then you use one part 10 and one part 40 for each quart, or if you want 20w50 you mix the 10 and 40 together, boil to get the 50, then you add 2 parts of 10 to get the 20. I'm sure there are others who will make there own recommendations. |
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Capitol Region of NH | All I will say is AMSOIL!!! |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | SuperTech!
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | VICTORYTCRIDER - 2010-06-01 7:19 PM
All I will say is AMSOIL!!!
Why?? |
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Oh, I loves me an oil thread!!
Just a second . . . let me get settled.
OK, you were sayin'?
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | ....rrrrRRRR
used popcorn butter - 1 1/2 Litres .... |
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Cheyenne, Wyoming | Lions, Tigers and Bears OH-My. |
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Boydsville, AR United States | When Kevinx did my cams, he saw a bottle of my son's Amsoil on the shelf in my garage. I thought he was going to go home before he did mine. All kiddding aside, search out all the oil threads, and you will know all you ever wanted to know about oil, and some things you don't want to know. There is even some humor there, and anger. Use the Victory oil change kit, and you will have no problems with clutch, engine, or warrenty.
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Pittsburgh, PA | AND LET THE GAMES BEGIN! im sitting this one out! lol |
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| +1 on using "Search" before asking a question. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Again !!!!!!!! |
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Southeast Iowa | I don't know why some people hate the oil subject so much...........I enjoy listening to other peoples views, opinions, and experience. Oil is one thing we all have in common and it is very important to the operation and longevity of our machines. For some (like me) it can also be expensive. I have 2 bikes that run about 10,000 miles year each which equates to 8 changes if I run Victory oil and change it every 2500 miles. That's $500 year!! A good oil thread here is what got me looking at other options so I find value in them. I say if you don't want to talk about oil, don't. But don't be so quick to chastise those that do. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. |
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Southeast Iowa | By the way Gary.........I use Amsoil 20-50 and love it. Smoother shifting, quieter motor, extended oil changes, no clutch slippage as some suggest, and delivered to my door. Everyone that I know that has tried it has stayed with it. Just my experience, others may feel differently.
Sorry guys, I just can't help myself |
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Capitol Region of NH | Because that is what I like to use. |
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Big Vic - 2010-06-04 9:25 AM
By the way Gary.........I use Amsoil 20-50 and love it. Smoother shifting, quieter motor, extended oil changes, no clutch slippage as some suggest, and delivered to my door. Everyone that I know that has tried it has stayed with it. Just my experience, others may feel differently.
Sorry guys, I just can't help myself
With the exception of oil change interval. The above statement is opinion only with no basis in fact. There are many that have switched from Amsoil for several reasons; chief among them being clutch slipage. Several have posted right here on this site.
BTW just so everyone understands this. My pick up has Amsoil in it, and I have no issue with Amsoil's blended oil in Vics. Only thing I do not like if Full Synth oils[any brand] in Victory motorcycles |
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Allen Park, MI | RedRider - 2010-06-04 7:23 AM
+1 on using "Search" before asking a question.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Wait ! Wait ! This one is just getting interesting! You guys put OIL in your motorcycle?
WOW - who knew!
Wait ! Wait ! Now I remember - I used to do that back in the '80's. Damn, it's a bitch getting old - memory plays tricks....
I'll have to discuss this with my dealer to make sure I'm not doing the right thing. Or wrong thing. Whatever
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New Bohemia, VA | the one is really a yawner..., could it be a WHO CARES? subject. |
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Cold lake Alberta | Well ther ya go..I learned something new from kevin today blended AMSOIL like Victorys semi syn.
Didnt know AMSOIL had it as I never checked.......maybe the have a nice 20-50 blended for us....LOl |
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San Antonio, TX | I did have clutch slippage when I was using Amsoil. Now I am running Victory oil, making the shifting notchy, but I am surly know when it goes in gear. Plus I can get the Vision to pull in 2nd without hearing the clutch chatter.
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Chattanooga, TN | Breaker - 2010-06-01 10:11 PM Oh, I loves me an oil thread!! Just a second . . . let me get settled. OK, you were sayin'? Hey, is that 10w-40 or 20w-50 butter on your popcorn? Personally I like the 10w-40 butter on mine, cause the 20w-50 makes the kernels too slick to get out of my teeth. 
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Houston, Texas | There's blood in the water and the sharks are in a frenzy...
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San Antonio, TX | Did I say Victory oleo..... I meant to write Extra Virgin Olive Oil! |
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Dallas, Texas | I figure to try the new Castrol semi-syn for V-Twins 20W/50 when it comes time. |
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Arkansas | You will like it! |
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LaPorte,Tx. | radioteacher - 2010-06-04 5:20 PM
I did have clutch slippage when I was using Amsoil. Now I am running Victory oil, making the shifting notchy, but I am surly know when it goes in gear. Plus I can get the Vision to pull in 2nd without hearing the clutch chatter.
Ride Safe
So Paul, coming off the line at the local 1/4 mile drags everything is ok, it's just when you hit 2nd, the clutch tends to give up...is that the issue??  |
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| When I watched the utube video of the north america castrol manager, he stated that it was specifically for motorcycles with seperate engine and transmission reserviors. I'm I missing the transmission tank on my bike?? I decided not to use the castrol after the video and stuck with Vic oil.
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| If you watch the video again you may have missed his comment "it's made for all American made V-twin motors" I take that to mean Victory and he just couldn't think of the name as he was talking. Big mistake on his part if that is true. Another real poor marketing point he makes is the "Castrol is a BP company" OOOPs. I can think of a few reasons why this might not be a real motivator to buy thier product right now. |
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San Antonio, TX | VisionTex - 2010-06-05 12:42 PM
radioteacher - 2010-06-04 5:20 PM
I did have clutch slippage when I was using Amsoil. Now I am running Victory oil, making the shifting notchy, but I am surly know when it goes in gear. Plus I can get the Vision to pull in 2nd without hearing the clutch chatter.
Ride Safe
So Paul, coming off the line at the local 1/4 mile drags everything is ok, it's just when you hit 2nd, the clutch tends to give up...is that the issue??
Bill, you know I have never been on a track. With my slow reflexes I would get my vision off of the line when the other lane passed the 1/8 mile mark.
After making a sharp right hand turns from a stop sign onto a busy four lane road I occasionally shift too soon to second gear with the engine is turning over 2500 rpm. If I let the clutch out too fast....I can feel the clutch slip and a few times (less then five) I have heard the clutch make a noise I will describe as a "chatter".
I can imagine that some day (in the next few years I hope) I will require a new clutch. None of this occurred before I ran Amsoil. I ran Victory oil for the first 5000 miles. I noticed it first at about 8000 miles after running Amsoil for about 3000 miles. I ran Amsoil for a total of 5000 miles and the slippage kept getting worse.
After reading Kevinx's posts from long ago I decided to switch back to Victory oil so.......
At 10000 miles I switched back to Victory oil and the slippage and chatter almost went away. I have heard the chatter once since then but I still feel the slippage from time to time.
I will chalk this up to a lesson learned for me. I have over 17,000 miles now and still shift too early or too late from time to time. I have improved a great deal in this regard but I still have room to improve.
Using Amsoil might be a good thing if your rhythm for shifting is perfect, its just not for me.
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Dallas, Texas | Has anyone ever heard of Motul brand oil?
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/1/4/72/21082/ITEM/Motul-Twin-S...
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New Bohemia, VA | don't sweat it gary, it's a forum thing, welcome aboard. |
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High Ridge, Mo. | I ALWAYS pat my steaks with olive oil before I season them with garlic salt, garlic, pepper, and some Greek season that is the "berries'. It helps hold the seasoning on to the meat when it's on the grill. |
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San Antonio, TX | gary - 2010-06-11 9:36 PM
sorry i asked
Gary,
Really it is OK. Please let us know if you have any questions about your ride.
Where are you from and how many miles do you have on the Vision so far? I ride almost daily but the commute is short so I only have the 17,000+ miles on it so far.
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Hinton, Iowa | Rotella semi/syn T5 Love it!!! |
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Central New York | SO..... I have read many oil threads and never have I seen the answer to.......Who makes the Victory oil? Don't understand why this mystery hasn't been solved.
I'll believe that it is a special exclusive bottle, but the juice inside comes from somebody's standard tank. Who's? |
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San Antonio, TX | glighto11 - 2010-06-12 9:11 AM
SO..... I have read many oil threads and never have I seen the answer to.......Who makes the Victory oil? Don't understand why this mystery hasn't been solved.
I'll believe that it is a special exclusive bottle, but the juice inside comes from somebody's standard tank. Who's?
Here is some replies from Kevinx on the answer to that question.
Polaris industries, and Lube Tech have been working together in development, and engineering for 30+ years..........
All Polaris oils including Victory are made by a company called Lube Tech.
................go to Lube Tech's site, and you will be able to find out all about them. .................
Here is a link ......... http://www.lube-tech.com/ ........
Ride Safe
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Southeast Iowa | Rumor has it that Amsoil will cause the clutch to slip on a Victory...........I've never seen or experienced this in over 60,000 miles of use. I did however watch a newer Kingpin this weekend try to do a burnout at the dealership. I have never seen (or heard) a clutch slip so bad in my life. Anyone want to guess which magic juice was in the crank case? Surprise, surprise, apparently Vic oil isn't slip proof either. |
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B'ham, Al. | Checked out Lube-Tech - didn't see any mention of Polaris/Victory. RR |
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New Bohemia, VA | RR - I'm not surprised at that all, and wouldn't expect them to post that information. I would expect anyone using their services to make it transparent to that fact as they want you to buy Victory Oil, not Lube-Tech Blend. The concept makes sense in my mind, though what comes out of my pie-hole is worthless babble.
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Jasper, MO | gary - 2010-06-16 3:09 AM
i'm from Alamosa, Co. I really don't mind all this. It's all just for fun. Besides, my question was ehat to use in an "emergency".
Welcome Gary.
I've never known a Victory to use any oil from one oil change to the next, but in a real emergency where you needed to add some oil, any good oil that meets the specifications (outlined in your owner's manual) will work. Just don't use any of the oils sold as "energy saving" since a lot of those have Teflon or something similar in them. Not good for your wet clutch. I would only use an oil that is 20W-something, and has the JASO MA rating. In other words, 20W-40, or 20W-50, and not 10W-30 or 10W- 40. In a REAL emergency, any oil is better than no oil...............
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New Bohemia, VA | gary - 2010-06-16 4:09 AM
i'm from Alamosa, Co. I really don't mind all this. It's all just for fun. Besides, my question was ehat to use in an "emergency".
What constitutes an emergency? If a Vic is low on oil, you've got far worse issues than what kind of oil to use, sooooo, it don't matter, use 100% Virgin Olive Oil. funnin' and being serious at the same time. |
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Chattanooga, TN | If my bike is no longer a virgin, will it void my warranty to use virgin olive oil, or will it help to restore her virginity? |
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