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New Bohemia, VA | this is not a question of what helmet or type of helmet, but something that happens anytime I rides with a helmet which is all the time. After wearing my helmet on a hot day around the 2nd or 3rd hour it feels it wants to dig into my fore head. I've shaved out around that area on the foam and it still seem to have the problem. Do any of you long-distance riders have the same problem and found a fix to it? |
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Northeastern Penna. | I've had the same issue with my helmet-HJC. I too have shaved out some of the foam in the area of the forehead, with not much improvement. Maybe need to shave out some more. 2nd option- buy a different helmet, that solved my issue. |
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Perry Hall, MD | What I found is that the problem is caused by perspiration on the forehead. After trying a number of alternatives I found 2 things that work - change out dry bandanna as soon as it starts to bother me, or what I like best is sprinkle some Monkey Butt powder on the padding around the forehead area. The bottle stays in a front compartment in my Saddleman 4100 which goes on any trip with me. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I used to think it was the helmet, but after wearing about three different types, only one HJC did I realize it was me. lennyb I'm going to try that, as one thing I don't do is change out my bandana, but it happens in the wintertime also, with no sweat. I think sometimes it is the bandana but find if everything is laying flat it still occurs. I get the same sensation wearing ear buds in my ear as this feeling on the forehead, so maybe I need a new head, as this one is defective. |
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Memphis | Take the back of a spoon and rub down down on the high (hot) spots. The foam will stay compressed and the liner stays intact. |
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Indianapolis, IN | varyder - 2010-06-13 3:05 PM
this is not a question of what helmet or type of helmet, but something that happens anytime I rides with a helmet which is all the time. After wearing my helmet on a hot day around the 2nd or 3rd hour it feels it wants to dig into my fore head. I've shaved out around that area on the foam and it still seem to have the problem. Do any of you long-distance riders have the same problem and found a fix to it?
Hey Chris, check out this article from webbike world. They go into a lot of discussion about helmet comfort and head shape as it relates to helmet design, and even have a chart that lists helmets by there design shape.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-sh... |
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | I have a very round head and Shoei helmets are the only ones that really fit me. Nolan helmets are supposed to fit a more oval head. Since I do not much hair I wear a Silky brand helmet liner to keep my helmet from getting sweaty. These work great for me. My sone in law has a HJC and his helmet rubs a spot in his forhead. |
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| There are several sites that can give you info to help you determine your head shape. They also provide a list of manufacturers and models for those head shapes.
In other words you have the wrong helmet for the shape of your head. You could try one of those silky panty hose type hair net things but I'm 99.9% sure you'll still have the problem.
As a side not removing or compressing the foam liner is the WORST possible thing you can do to your lid. If you've already done this you may as well just throw it away. It is the foam compressing that saves your head from injury in the event of a get-off. When you drop a helmet the impact has the same result, compresses the foam rendering the helmet worthless. Hanging your lid off a bar end with foam in contact or simply age all do the same, thats why manufacturers recommend replacement every 5 years, or after a drop from more than a few feet.
Yes I know, just a gimmick to make folks spend their money right? Actually I've seen the scans of one of my lids that rolled off the seat on two occasions (once on grass, once on blacktop). The foam between the liner and shell was compressed in a 1.5" circle 1/4" deep gap. There wasn't even a scuff on the helmet shell.
So long and short IMO is figure out what shape head you have and get an appropriate helmet. HJC & Daytona helmets give me the symptoms you described and I have real good luck with Bell, Nolan and Zeus lids. Good luck. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I've been riding with my Vic helmet and that ones seems to give me the problem. I took out the flaps in my EXO and I'm going to try that over the next few weeks. I only used it in the winter time, and with my CB. I'm not using the CB because of a broke antenna, but I don't care to use it anyways. It seems to fit better, but I think it is more of a situation I have than an actual helmet issue. If that doesn't work though I'll take a trip to the only place that carries more than one type of helmet, the Yammy place. |
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Central New York | Experimenting with more helmets sounds costly. Maybe your significant other could use a 2x4 and reshape your dome around the forehead.
As for me, a ball cap becomes bothersome after 3 or 4 hours. The helmet turns into a lead mop bucket. I used to wear an open face but switched to a flip-up. Figured that if I'm going to play safe there was no point in fooling myself with an open face which leaves the best part of my dome exposed. Was difficult dealing with the heat but I enlarged the vents some with a drill and it seems to be fine, although I still need to flip it up if I'm stuck in traffic. I went with the HJC IS-MAX. I just love the retractable sun visor. It is really the cats jamies.
Hope you get it worked out before your trip! |
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Baltimore, Md | A bit OT, but I often see the comment on dropped helmets being useless - and in most cases, it just isn't true. Most helmet manufacturers will tell you that dropping a helmet does not ruin it in any way, except potentially cosmetically with scratches. Modern helmets are made for impact while weighted inside (your head, for example) and are not affected by a simple drop off your seat, etc. This myth has gone around for years and is simply misinformation or based on antiquated designs.
So, it may be more prudent to check with your helmet maker before tossing a perfectly good helmet. There are always exceptions, but most likely you didn't damage it at all. |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | I currently have 9 helmets and use them all (for different seasons). I have owned over 3 times that many in my life and have borrowed many as well. I regularly have a helmet on for 3 hours at a time. The longest I wore a helmet was 7hrs 13min. I can assure you discomfort is not specific to a manufacturer, but to the shape of your head. Each make and model will fit each person differently. Some helmets I have favored could not be tolerated by others and vice versa. Other helmets fit a wider variety of head shapes.
The best way I have found to choose a helmet is talking my buddies into letting me borrow theirs. The liners in most quality helmets are washable so I don't have to return it stinky.
Keep trying different ones until you find one that is comfortable before you buy your next one. The more comfortable it is the better chance you will use it. |
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San Antonio, TX | victoryvisiontour - 2010-06-14 3:34 PM
The liners in most quality helmets are washable so I don't have to return it stinky.
I washed mine last night from the Scorpion EXO-100. For the summer it gets washed almost every week. I was even thinking of buying a second liner to keep a clean one on the Vision so I could swap them out on a long ride.
Ride Safe with a helmet liner that smells like Irish Spring! |
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Indianapolis, IN | radioteacher - 2010-06-14 4:15 PM
victoryvisiontour - 2010-06-14 3:34 PM
The liners in most quality helmets are washable so I don't have to return it stinky.
I washed mine last night from the Scorpion EXO-100. For the summer it gets washed almost every week. I was even thinking of buying a second liner to keep a clean one on the Vision so I could swap them out on a long ride.
Ride Safe with a helmet liner that smells like Irish Spring!
Yep, nothing quite as bad as that greasy head smell.  |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Radioteacher,
A second liner is very nice to have. That is part of the reason I have a number of helmets. I hate putting on a helmet that is wet from yesterday's ride.
I have worn enough helmets that I hated. Now, when I find one I still like after a few months, I buy another one of the same make and model.
I just took inventory and I actually have 11. Nothing like always having a fresh dry helmet waiting in the closet. |
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Buford, GA United States | When my head starts itching it means it is time to stop and eat... |
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| Might I suggest wearing a skull cap under your helmet. I know it works great for me in the summer. It seems to absorb the sweat. I haven't done it but I supposed you could even soak it in water to keep all that brain power on the cooler side. |
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