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| But has anyone done it, and if so how? I'm still looking at the Cross Road, but if I can lower the Vision a couple of inches, I might just keep it.
Help....anyone have the right way to do it? |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | http://www.vision-riders.com/articles.asp?article=16671
Check out this modification from Neil Forman in the UK - Then look into the Ness "Bashplate".
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Cruiser
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Birmingham, AL 08 MC Tour Premium 2012 Bronze Mist | I don't know if you'll get a 2" drop without modifying the bags otherwise you'll be busting up stuff when you hit speed bumps, pot holes etc. I dropped mine 1" with the link mentioned in the article above. I like the improved handling and the way it sits. I haven't made any changes on the front other than having to adjust the headlight.
Check out this thread for more info.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5923&pos...
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Tourer
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| If you have a pre-2010, you could look into just swapping out the seat. The new seats are 1"-2" lower, and you can now get heat with them too. |
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Cruiser
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| Just wondering about the angle that would change. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Smitty - if you look at the rake/trail specs for the standard Vision and the 8-ball, there is not indication of change whatsoever, unless that has been updated recently. I do not understand how you can lower the bike and not change the rake/trail, even slightly. The tech at the dealer says it is not significant enough to say otherwise. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | I agree with varyder. In a fixed 3 point triangle you can not change the plain of 1 leg without affecting the plain of the other 2. |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | Hey bud, just sent you an email with lowering info. Let me know if you need any more help
Mac. |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | Actually the 8-ball front end does sit a little lower then a stock Vision. In trying to figure it out for my wife's Vision... I found that lower legs on the 8-ball were different. Now is it because they blacked out - I do not know.
But - the 8-balls front end is lower... just stick you fist between the headlight and the front fender...
On my wife's I used the adjustable link from the dealer in PA. Lowered the rear 1" and then raised the forks up into the triple tree 5/8"
It handles great
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Cruiser
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Vancouver, B.C. & La Quinta, CA | Arlen Ness in Dublin, CA lowered mine, added skid plate and away I went. Lost a small amount of storage space, gained a whole lot of handling and cool factor. Set-up leaves full suspension. |
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Cruiser
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Eyota, MN | Anyone have any pictures!!! |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | I would if I would get off my ars and go out to the garage - maybe this evening... I can even sit it with mine for a comparison...
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Puddle Jumper
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Eagle Mountain, Utah | Here is the picture of my vision that has been lower by 1 1/2" and i'm only 5' 3" in height. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Eagle Mountain, Utah | lets try it again
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Cruiser
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| what did it do to the lean angle of the sidestand?
Thanks. |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | Smitty - 2010-08-07 7:12 PM
But has anyone done it, and if so how? I'm still looking at the Cross Road, but if I can lower the Vision a couple of inches, I might just keep it.
Help....anyone have the right way to do it?
I have talked to folks at Victory and dealers about the lowering of the bike. The people I talked to do not recommend shortening the link...but we all know folks are doing it and it seems to work. So, what do they recommend? Get the 8-ball shock and link, and seat. This will give you the two inch lower seat height. |
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Visionary
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| Say how did you lose some storage???? |
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Puddle Jumper
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Hibbing, MN | I used the stock link and cut 1" out of it, put a slug in it and welded it up, but if you remove 1" form the link you will have to buy the ness parts for the sadle bags, I didn't think it would be a problem, I was wrong, smashed the sh*%# out of the inside of my bags, 1" shorter link was over 2.375 lower at the back of the pipes. I think it was a fairly easy and inexpensive mod, the ness bag liner parts were around $165 but they were backorderd for a month or so. I didn't use the bash plate, but I don't have my forks lowered, hope this helps. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Hibbing, MN | The ness bag inserts are about 2" taller than the factory cutouts for swingarm and pully clearance, so you lose some storage, but not much. |
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Tourer
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Atlanta Area | VisionTex - 2010-08-31 6:39 PM Smitty - 2010-08-07 7:12 PM But has anyone done it, and if so how? I'm still looking at the Cross Road, but if I can lower the Vision a couple of inches, I might just keep it. Help....anyone have the right way to do it? I have talked to folks at Victory and dealers about the lowering of the bike. The people I talked to do not recommend shortening the link...but we all know folks are doing it and it seems to work. So, what do they recommend? Get the 8-ball shock and link, and seat. This will give you the two inch lower seat height. The cheapest and easiest is to use the fully adjustable link from Offroad Express in Erie, PA. Great quality, any height you want and 150 bucks...
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | +1
That is what I have used on two bikes so far and have plans to do two more bikes next month or so...
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Cruiser
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Cold lake Alberta | VisionTex - 2010-08-31 4:39 PM
Smitty - 2010-08-07 7:12 PM
But has anyone done it, and if so how? I'm still looking at the Cross Road, but if I can lower the Vision a couple of inches, I might just keep it.
Help....anyone have the right way to do it?
I have talked to folks at Victory and dealers about the lowering of the bike. The people I talked to do not recommend shortening the link...but we all know folks are doing it and it seems to work. So, what do they recommend? Get the 8-ball shock and link, and seat. This will give you the two inch lower seat height.
Do you have to adjust the front end also?
Does it effect the inner saddlebags by hitting?
Thx
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | The change to the Vision 8-ball suspension may not need a change in the front forks as it is lowered only ~1 inch, the seat gets another ~1 inch for the total. This is what I've been told. When I was next to a Vision 8-ball, I did not check the bags to see if they were different. Maybe on of the 8-ball owners here can let us know. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Eagle Mountain, Utah | I bought the fully adjustable link from Offroad Express in Erie, PA and have my dealer installed. Also have the seat foam cut off about 2 inch and replaced with memory foam. is effecting the lean angle just a bit, but i have heard others heat up the kick stand and bend it to give the same angle. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Galt California | Joe H - 2010-08-31 7:10 AM
Anyone have any pictures!!!
I'll give it a shot |
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Puddle Jumper
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Galt California | dfarrington - 2010-09-02 4:56 AM
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Visionary
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| "DON'T" put heat to the kick stand it will give out on you and the bike will tip over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bend the kick stand |
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Cruiser
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Durango, Colorado | john frey - 2010-09-02 8:33 PM "DON'T" put heat to the kick stand it will give out on you and the bike will tip over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bend the kick stand It's fine to use heat to bend the kickstand, just be sure to re-harden by quenching. You may get some discoloration however, as it appears to have some sort of finish on it. Always quench structural elements bent or modified by heating to a glow. the exception being weld joints as they tend to brittle and may develop cracks.
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Cruiser
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Tucson , AZ | I have an 08' vison that is 3" in the front (lowered), and 3.5" lowered in the back. I still use the stock shock. My girl rides on the back all the time. She says the ride is way more comfortable than the stock seat and bike. I do have the ness skid plate. It has saved me more than once since my bike is only 2" off the skid plate.
You can lower the rear of the vision 1" or 2" with very little effect to the bike. My bike has seen over a 100 mph with no problem in handling. Only issue is it drags on the corners of the skid plate because its so low. I make a lowering kit for the bike( 1" and 2" ) also have air ride available. By using the lowering link combined with the seat you can lower the ride height of your Vison from 2.5" to 4.5" . Its easier to adjust your ride with the air... one person or two can ride on any terrain at the push of a button.
I will be opening a web store that offers lots of parts for the vision.... should be up oct.2010. We will offer one off front wrap around fenders( fornt and rear), lowering kits, air ride kits, tinted turn signals, tinted reat tail lites, lay down license brackets, redesigned custom memory foam seats, cut down short front windshields, and much more. If you have any questions or need pics please contact me at HMD520@yahoo.com
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