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Northwest Ohio | I am replacing the wheels on my vision and need both tires. I have been researching on several forums about diferent brands as well as the darkside. First off I should say my bike has a hitch and is more my touring bike and two up bike. I have a jackpot for my cruiser-solo bike.
The more research I do the more confused I am. I am very interested in the darkside set-up as the roads here in Ohio are very flat and the cost and wear of the CT is very tempting. I have watched videos and read many discusions on pros and cons of the darkside.
If I were to go this route the rear most popular CT is the potensa 185/55/16 since I have a hitch. What would be a good front for this set-up?
If going all motorcycle tires I have read about the metzlers and dunlap brands. Again there are pros and cons on both.
I would be interested in hearing anything everyone has to say IF THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. I have read alot of folks bashing this or that but have never run them.
Just trying to cut down on the trash talk. Thanks |
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Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | No need for brain damage-simply mount stock OEM replacement tires w/dynabeads and enjoy the ride. Works for me-Brian |
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New Bohemia, Va | Personally, I've been more than satisfied with the stock E3 with an average of 12,000 miles on the rear, and around 20,000 on the front. I'm currently on number 4 for the front and number 7 on the rear, no issues. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | My MOTTO - If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Stock tires as per the Cap'n - works for me, and will not give me any fits of 'wondering' - just ride and enjoy. |
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Iron Butt
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| If it helps, I tried a set of Bridgestone G704/G709 as used on Goldwings. I didn't like them at all compared to the Dunlop E3s. They have a more pointed profile and felt a bit too unstable to me. It wanted to drop into corners and just overall felt too loose. Problem with the E3s is that they feather really bad for me. I've got 4500 miles on the '11 rear now and its already feathering and roaring in corners which is what happened on my '10 motivating me to try the Bridgestones.
Marc |
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seattle, wa | I've ridden both Metzelers and Dunlops. The Metzelers seemed to have better grip, but I got way more miles out of the Dunlops. |
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Tampa, Fl United States | Dunlop E3's up front work fine w/CT as the potensa 185/55/16 (from experience i have the 195/55/16 version) |
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Northwest Ohio | Just spent some time on the GL1800 site reading about the CTs. Very good reading! I have always thought outside of the box. Just because it didn't come that way doesn't mean that it is wrong, just not the norm. The latest on these bikes are car mufflers instead of a $700 motorcycle exhaust. If you would contact thrush they would say no as well as victory. But guys are running them and are very happy with the sound. I haven't seen dyno #s yet but more and more people are doing this. Just saying. |
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Cold Lake Alberta Canada | I'm not going to mention the DARK SIDE for rear tires. OOPS!!! |
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Northern NJ | 09ness#163 - 2011-01-15 11:22 AM
...First off I should say my bike has a hitch and is more my touring bike and two up bike. I have a jackpot for my cruiser-solo bike. ...
The more research I do the more confused I am. I am very interested in the darkside set-up as the roads here in Ohio are very flat and the cost and wear of the CT is very tempting. ...
I'm happy with the Dunlop E3s, even with the fast wear on them.
But if you spend a lot of time on flat, straight roads and interstates a different tire might make sense for you.
Good luck! |
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Simi Valley, CA | I just put my second set of Dunlop E3's on my Vision.... why change from a thing that works? |
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Tampa, Fl United States | Cometman - 2011-01-16 12:44 PM
I just put my second set of Dunlop E3's on my Vision.... why change from a thing that works?
D0 you really feel that you contribute anything to the orginal post????? |
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Akron, Ohio | I too live in northern Ohio so I know the roads you speek of. I have went Darkside for that very reason. I have the 195/55/16 on but I do not have a hitch. With a hitch it is my understanding that a 185/55/16 is better. Gives a little more clearance. I had the stock E-3s before the change. I am keeping the CT as the difference in handling is minimal. If you would like to see one mounted you are more than welcome to stop by. I can also recommend a tire shop that will mount and balance for $20.
Edited by handyhiker 2011-01-17 2:54 AM
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Akron, Ohio | If this helps I don't know but here is a thread I started when I switched to the Darkside. My take on the CT is the second post on page 2.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7253&sta... |
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Northwest Ohio | I know I'm going to the darkside. Now the choice is what front and a run flat or no run flat ct on the rear. I would like the reasurance of the run flat but not sure of the handling between the two.
Handyhiker, Do you remember who the seller was on e-bay? Also if it was riding weather I would come and check out your ride first. I'm up in the NW corner of OH. I like you have do enough research to take the plunge. |
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Simi Valley, CA | turbobuick - 2011-01-16 4:05 PM
Cometman - 2011-01-16 12:44 PM
I just put my second set of Dunlop E3's on my Vision.... why change from a thing that works?
D0 you really feel that you contribute anything to the orginal post?????
Do you? |
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Akron, Ohio | 09ness#163 - 2011-01-17 9:20 PM
I know I'm going to the darkside. Now the choice is what front and a run flat or no run flat ct on the rear. I would like the reasurance of the run flat but not sure of the handling between the two.
Handyhiker, Do you remember who the seller was on e-bay? Also if it was riding weather I would come and check out your ride first. I'm up in the NW corner of OH. I like you have do enough research to take the plunge.
I will look but I just typed in the size I wanted and looked through the adds. As far as front I am going with a Bridgestone BT 045 rear. The Mileage is supposed to be better than most others, and they are said to handle well. |
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Akron, Ohio | 09ness#163 - 2011-01-17 9:20 PM
I know I'm going to the darkside. Now the choice is what front and a run flat or no run flat ct on the rear. I would like the reasurance of the run flat but not sure of the handling between the two.
Be careful running a "run flat" tire. I have read where folks don't know they are flat and get in trouble. From the reading I have done, it is not recomended to use these unless you have a tire pressure monitoring system.
The seller I bought from had no listings now. These are also supposed to be a good choice but not with a hitch.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Tire-195-55R16-Yokohama-Envigor-...
Edited by handyhiker 2011-01-18 4:57 AM
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Iron Butt
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| I will not start an argument here, there have been plenty of arguments over the years on many different forums, but I will say this, having ridden for a more than just a quick try a motorcycle equipped with a CT on the rear, the actual handling ONCE LEANED OVER is not different from a MT equipped motorcycle but the EFFORT to get the bike leaned over is significantly more than that needed to lean the bike over with a MT. |
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Brighton, TN | +1 on Travelin Man's response, in addition I know from personal experience that the E3 is a "run flat" as do others, the sidewall is stiff enough to support without damaging the rim. It gets a little squirrely from no pressure, but that lets you know something is amiss. I only use "run flat" as a descriptor not actually saying it is a true "GoodYear Run Flat". Thank you and I speak of no oil, or kilometers. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | pollolittle - 2011-01-18 7:20 AM Thank you and I speak of no oil, or kilometers. Always the true gentleman. Much appreciated .... |
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Northwest Ohio | Having trouble finding a 185/55/16 Potenza. Where are you guys finding these. |
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Akron, Ohio | Try this.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSearchResults.jsp?skipOver=true&w... |
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Northwest Ohio | Checked them but that size is on backorder. I'm not going to pay for it and wait till they can get one in. As soon as I do I'll find one somewhere else. Never fails.This size is not very common. I checked locally also with a shop my brother manages and he can't get one either. E-bay has nothing to offer as well. I'll keep shopping. |
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not far from hustler wisconsin | the e-3's that came on my 09 vision were the best wearing tires i have ever had on any bike. i live in twisty hill country and like to scrubb the rubber and shiny parts too sometimes. 10,900 miles they are shot but still that is great wear for me.
that being said, i am putting a hitch on and have been studying the darkside info here and other places. i am going to darkside this spring and will photo and report for all interested. talked to a trusted tire man and he said he has always felt car tires were better made than bike tires from a durability standpoint, and he has done a lot of darksiding for goldwingers over the years |
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Akron Ohio area | Ohio roads are flat?
You must live on the northwestern side of Ohio.
Come down to the Southeastern side of Ohio and ride any 3 digit county road and I'm sure you will change your mind.
Some of my favorites are route 26 for sweepers, and 255 & 536 for some sphincter tightening twisties and switchbacks.
These last two roads are anything but flat.
Try this site for the best motorcycle roads in the USA.
http://www.motorcycleroads.us/states/oh.html
Car tire or hitch/trailer on a motorcycle?
REALLY?
Buy a Winnebago.
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