Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision
Man314
Posted 2011-03-20 5:19 PM (#81794)
Subject: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"

Ah, yes I am very proud of the recent work I was able to do in the last couple of weeks on my Vision:

  • Installed a HitchDoc hitch
  • Dropped both wheels and replaced tires
  • Installed a set of Atom Bombs
  • Installed a set of custom exhaust tips (as seen on this site)

I saved some money, saved some time (next closest dealer is 1.5 hr drive away), and got to know my bike alot better.  Just realize the horror when I got everything together and I ended up with 5 extra bolts (see pic below)!  I checked and rechecked the manual and my tear down sequence.  I kept all fasteners separate by area of bike I worked on. Best I can figure:

  • The 4 larger black bolts seem to be the ones removed from the trunk attachment that I removed when mounting my HitchDoc hitch.  They included new longer bolts that mount from the bottom.  Can someone verify that this is the correct bolts . . . 16mm head on the bolt
  • I have no idea where the short 10 mm came from . . . can anyone ID this by sight based on the work I did.
  • The broken plastic tab is from the rear where the screw clip mounts for the RH side screw for grey bumper . . . I fixed it with some JB Weld!


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cw1115
Posted 2011-03-20 7:20 PM (#81801 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
That small bolt looks like the bolt that goes into the exhaust from the backside. So if you look under the bike just in front of the grey piece under the tail lights you may have a bolt missing. I have had my whole bike apart a couple of times and that's the only place I can think it came from.
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cw1115
Posted 2011-03-20 7:35 PM (#81803 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I can't copy and paste the page from the work PC. If you have the service manual go to 3.44 #5. "5. Remove bolt at the rear of each muffler that fastens
the muffler to the bumper bracket."

I'm sure that's it. I had my mufflers off a week ago.
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-20 8:23 PM (#81810 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
Bet you are right! These bolts get replaced with my HitchDoc brackets. Thx!

Any confirmation on the trunk bolts? It almost has to be these, but I somehow thought they were longer
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VisionNWRider
Posted 2011-03-20 8:35 PM (#81811 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 639
Tri Cities, WA
Those black bolts look like the trunk bolts to me. I just re-installed my trunk and they look to be the same. I would bet thats what they are.
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Gerica
Posted 2011-03-21 12:57 AM (#81823 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: RE: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 251

Hey Mark,

My hat off to you rman... I too will soon be embarking on the same voyage for the first time.... I will be installing a bushtec hitch and changing out my tires... Any advice as you are still fresh off of the repair table?

I am wondering about the tire change... after you remove the wheel (front and rear), does everything have to come off to get the rubber off? I will be taking it to someone else to change the rubber off of the rims.

Did you balance? Did you use Dyna Beads? How did this work for you?

Thanks

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Gerica
Posted 2011-03-21 12:57 AM (#81824 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: RE: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 251

Hey Mark,

My hat off to you rman... I too will soon be embarking on the same voyage for the first time.... I will be installing a bushtec hitch and changing out my tires... Any advice as you are still fresh off of the repair table?

I am wondering about the tire change... after you remove the wheel (front and rear), does everything have to come off to get the rubber off? I will be taking it to someone else to change the rubber off of the rims.

Did you balance? Did you use Dyna Beads? How did this work for you?

Thanks

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cw1115
Posted 2011-03-21 6:24 AM (#81825 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Gerry,

You should be able to leave the rotors and pulley on to get the tires mounted. I did however have a problem one time with the rear. I bought tires from cyclegear. Their machine wasn't "strong enough" to mount rear tire. I went and biked it up with only one bead on the rim. They took 10% off the price and sent me down the road to a custom bike shop. They couldn't get my rim on their machine without removing the pulley. They pulled it off, mounted the tire and replaced it.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-03-21 7:54 AM (#81827 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
make sure they mark the pulley position to the wheel....
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-21 8:08 AM (#81828 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
OK Gerica, here's a few bullets while it is fresh in my mind:
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-21 9:08 AM (#81831 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"

OK Gerica, here's a few bullets while it is fresh in my mind:

  • Invest in a good lift . . . I did quite a bit of research and bought the J&S Jacks.  Rock Solid lift! BTW, the lift paid for itself with one time change!
  • Get your hands on a Victory Manual as it is quite helpful
  • A pneumatic ratchet is invaluable!

HitchDoc Hitch

  • While you can leave the rear wheel on to install the hitch, its really no big deal to remove and replace.  I left wheel on and everything was quite tedious to do through the hole under the seat
  • Check the bolt packages that come with your hitch.  Mine had a few SAE bolts . . . had to run to hardware store and damned near stripped some threads
  • Have a patient second pair of hands . . . most of this you can do by yourself, but a second person can be quite helpful if she knows what she's doing (my wife wasn't to thrilled at getting a little dirty)
  • Mount your trunk bolts from bottom up . . . this will not only attach your hitch, but give you a set of studs to make removing trunk easier
  • I used a tap to clean out dirt and grime in the threads on the aluminum casting . . . be very careful here
Front Wheel
  • The front axle requires a 5/8" (16mm?). . . I found that these aren't so common in the stores . . . I borrowed one from the helpful guy at parts counter
  • Don't forget to remove the 2 pinch bolts on front RH fork
  • Manual says to remove from fender . . . I didn't find this necessary
  • I did remove brake rotors so they would not get damaged mounting the tire
  • I took the time to clean the rotors while off
  • Use locktite when reinstalling rotor bolts and torque to specs (I ran it down with pneumatic ratchet, then finished off with torque wrench) use a modified star pattern when bolting into place
  • WD 40 works great to remove road tar and residue from wheel weights
  • DONT FORGET to remember which spacer was on which side.  There is a tall and a short wheel spacer.  Don't know what would happen if they were swapped, but I'm sure it would not be good!
Rear Wheel
  • Not as intimidating as it looks.  It may have been easier for me since I was also removing mufflers
  • I did remove brake rotors and belt pulley so that they would not be damaged
  • Spacers are easy here as tall one goes with pulley
  • Upon reassembly, make sure brake unit bracket tab fits in the slot on swingarm
  • Biggest issue here was making sure everything (axle, swingarm hole, spacers, brake hole, etc) all line up upon reassembly . . . this part is easiest with two people
  • I did use Dyna Beads in both front and back.  2 oz in front and 3 oz in back . . . make sure you remove wheel weights!
  • Take advantage of having tires off to have them install metal valve stems . . . if you ever want to add Tire Pressure Monitoring System with external sensors, the rubber stems will tend over time to flex and eventually crack.  I wanted to mount my Doran sensors inside the wheel, but the inner stem was not long enough to allow sensor to fully seat . . . it was close, but last thing I want is for that to vibrate loose while driving at 70 mph!
Atom Bomb Exhausts and Custom TravelinMan Tips
  • Removing lower saddle bag body parts was easier than putting them back on due to curve and bolt holes under saddle bag doors
  • Tool a little persuasion and some liberal amounts of WD40 to get old mufflers off (ie wood block and hammer)
  • Trick is to remove heat shield straps without damaging old muffler . . . too tight to get tin snips in . . . I uses a Dremmel with a cutting disc . . . worked perfect
  • You will need (6) 5-6 inch hose clamps to reattach heat shields
  • When you get your Atom Bombs make sure you straighten out the back flange where tips mount . . . sometimes this gets bent and make sure mounting threads are not damaged . . . mine were in pretty good shape
  • Use lots of WD40 to lubricate for reinstall
  • When reassembling don't put rubber grommets in slots and then try to rotate muffler to try to align mounting bolts to holes . . . put rubber grommets on mounting studs first, then align exhaust . . . trust me, its easier this way!
  • The most frustrating thing was in spreading the exhaust clamp wide enough to get over the slightly spread muffler pipe.  Damned thing had some spring in it.  Finally used some needle nose pliers inside the clamp and spread outward while pushing over the pipe.   Sometimes it's the stupidest things that frustrate you the most!
  • Due to slight bend in rear flange of muffler, I had to ream some of the holes in order to get exhaust tip holes to line up.  Wasn't off much, but enough to hinder getting bolts started.


Edited by Man314 2011-03-21 9:09 AM
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Gerica
Posted 2011-03-22 3:34 PM (#81942 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: RE: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 251

Thanks for the info

I am getting a table lift with the rear tire cut out and jack next week so this should help a lot.

As for the rest, we shall see... thanks again for the info

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Lone Ranger
Posted 2011-03-22 5:03 PM (#81960 - in reply to #81831)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


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Cleveland, GA
Man314 - 2011-03-21 10:08 AM

OK Gerica, here's a few bullets while it is fresh in my mind...

This is a good one to copy and paste to the Technical Discussion forum, with a new heading.

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Man314
Posted 2011-03-22 5:14 PM (#81962 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
Good idea. Done. Thx!
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-22 5:17 PM (#81964 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
Uh oh!! I found my two bolts I took out on the rear muffler mount. Same diameter threads, but the one I have left over is very short and there is only one of them. Saga of the "mystery bolt" continues! (maybe it fell out of my head . . . mamma always said I had a screw loose)
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-22 5:17 PM (#81965 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"
double post  . . . oops<br />

Edited by Man314 2011-03-22 5:18 PM
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cw1115
Posted 2011-03-22 8:10 PM (#82001 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
I knew what it was as soon as I saw it. I was wondering why only one. Mine are the same short lenth.
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spursmvp
Posted 2011-03-25 6:12 AM (#82317 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 377
O'Neill, Nebraska
My hat is off to you guys because my mechanical skill are not trusted for tires. Figure I'll pay the dealership for doing that and I'll do the rest!
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waterboy
Posted 2011-03-25 7:59 AM (#82324 - in reply to #82317)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 23
WI
Looks like that bolt could be the one for the heat shield on the right side of the bike that covers the right muffler clamp. The shield attaches with a hose clamp in the rear and a small bolt in the front.
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cw1115
Posted 2011-03-25 8:21 AM (#82326 - in reply to #81794)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Good catch, I forgot about that one. I bet you are right.
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Man314
Posted 2011-03-25 3:22 PM (#82379 - in reply to #82324)
Subject: Re: Ahhhhh . . . the pride of DIY servicing of the Vision


Tourer

Posts: 575
Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles"

waterboy - 2011-03-25 7:59 AM Looks like that bolt could be the one for the heat shield on the right side of the bike that covers the right muffler clamp. The shield attaches with a hose clamp in the rear and a small bolt in the front.

 

Ah ha!  Waterboy solves the mystery as that is indeed the missing bolt!

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