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Columbia, SC | If I'm looking for a truck (not now, but gonna start saving up for getting one in a few years). Would a quad cap F150 fit it tailgate up? Or would I need a quadcab extended bed (like in a superduty) to fit a vision with the tailgate up?
Main reason I'm asking is because I'm looking to get into towing a travel trailer in a few years and it sure would save money if I didn't have to look for a toy hauler and could put the bike in the truck, and tow a trailer.
Quad cab would be necessary.
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Visionary
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| No truck you have to get trailer |
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Simi Valley, CA | Trailer a Vision? I believe that will cause it to begin leaking oil, and parts will fall off. |
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Cruiser
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| Here is what you need http://www.commercialtrucktrader.com/find/listing/2011-FORD-F450-98... |
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Iron Butt
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, FL United States | No truck that I know of could handle a Vision in the bed w/ the tailgate up. I don't know about yours, but mine measures 8'7 1/2" nose to tail and the longest pickup bed I know of is 8'. |
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| Toy hauler is the way to go. If you put the Vision in the back of 1/2 ton pickup (if you could) and add the tongue weight of the travel trailer the truck will be seriously overloaded. |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | Cometman - 2011-03-27 5:40 PM
Trailer a Vision? I believe that will cause it to begin leaking oil, and parts will fall off.
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Edmond, OK 2012 Vision, 2012 Cross Country | Must be a former HD owner wanting to haul a Victory Vision, hmm unAmerican! |
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New Bohemia, Va | personally, I don't ever plan on hauling mine, but if I was, a toy hauler would be the ticket, The logistics of getting it in the pickup would be challenging. There was someone on here that had the rack on the back of an RV that carried a 1,000lbs well, another option. My perferred option would be to put the wife behind the wheel of the carriage house and then ride to our next destination... my days are over wishing I could ride when I was driving... |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Was this a joke ??? |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | flatbed
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Central New York | I have thought out the same issue. Knowing that an 8 foot box is to short anyway, I would opt for a 6 foot box to keep the overall length down. Leave the tailgate down and cut a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 marine plywood to fit the floor and reinforce the tailgate. I would mount a harbor freight chock to the plywood in front. Believe it or not, having the gate down will also increase mileage. If you are worried about cornering clearance between gate and trailer you can slide in a 6 or 12 inch cat 3 hitch extension. |
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San Antonio, TX | I just checked and even the largest production truck out there (The International XT) only has an 8 foot bed. So no truck can carry a Vision tailgate up.
Wait unless you take off the front wheel and front fender....Could that work? How would you get it in the truck then? |
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Visionary
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| I loaded my '03 CC into the back of my S-10 with a Toy Trax then hooked up a class 2 U-Haul trailer to the ball on the bumper and headed to FL with 126,000 miles on the truck. I had no problems. I am thinking you are concerned with your trailer hitting your tailgate when you make extreme turns? My tailgate was down and I had plenty of clearance with the box trailer.
Maybe look into a diesel truck? A little extra grunt.
"Believe it or not, having the gate down will also increase mileage." Spend some educational time watching the Mythbusters. Maybe they will do a show towing a trailer. I would believe you would get worse mileage because you would be directing all the air into the front of the trailer but I don't believe in myths and vampires.... |
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Tourer
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Bay of Gigs, WA | Travel trailers are nice, but you still have to get out in the rain if you need to go to the bathroom. This is what we tow behind our motorhome, and we use the VV as our dinghy when we park. Works great for us.
Last spring I picked up a MAXEY 5X10' tilt bed trailer with 2X8" boards for the floor. The tilt bed has a pin in front that allows it to go down to the ground in the back. There's a 3500 pound axle, but it's rated at 2900 pounds because brakes are required at 3000 here in WA State. It has an 18" rail around three sides, and I use a 2X12" board cut to fit built-in slots for a tailgate.
This thing is made in Texas, and they ship them all over, at least they brought in a stacked up pantload on a trailer to Olympia, WA, to a joint called "Trailer Town." This thing was about $1100 out the door, 15" wheels and all. I bought a Condor to stand the VV up in, and it came with a bracket that I mounted on the bed of the trailer with the addition of some big ol' fender washers and nylock nuts so it wouldn't pull loose, and now, I tilt the trailer back, get a little run at it and drive right up onto the Condor and as the wheel rolls over the rocker to lock the front tire in, the trailer goes over center and >click<, it's loaded. I get off, go up front and shove the pin back in, lock it with the cotter key, throw a strap on each corner of the bike, and it's ready to follow the motorhome to California or wherever. Sometimes it may take a couple attempts, but usually just once get's her in there. Practice makes perfect, don'tchaknow. The rest of the time, the Condor stays in the garage, where it gets used when I change the oil or wash it or whatever.
I like to have folks at RV parks run up going, "Hey Mister! You forgot to put your ramps out!" when I'm backing the thing off the trailer. I just look over blankly and go, "Huh?" about the time the bed tilts and I roll off onto the driveway. Then they mutter, "Nuthin'." and walk away. Hey I'm old here, fun's where you find it.
Additionally, since my Grand Cherokee can tow 5,000 pounds, and the trailer has a weight rating of 2900 (wink wink), and a yard of gravel weighs about 1800 pounds, I sold my pickup truck altogether, and now just have the trailer to do all my gentleman farmer stuff with. And when insurance, sparkplugs, or cold weather comes up, well, the trailer needs none of them, since the insurance on the tow rig covers the trailer. I do believe I've simplified my life, especially not needing to deal with the 6-8 mpg my dually Chevy used to get.
So, check out new stuff at a local utility trailer outlet near you, you'll be surprised at how affordable these things are, especially when you factor in unforseen benefits.
The only downside is this trailer is not covered, but even those go for under 3 grand, with a nice white paintjob and a side door, but then you can't get all those thumbs up when you're tooling down the highway with a spaceship in tow, either.
I heard that in Texas and some other states you can tow a trailer behind a 5th wheel. That's intriguing to me, but not legal here in WA, so I've never seen it done. The semi's tow triples in OR, but I don't know if a 5th wheel and a trailer is legal there or not. Still, a truck, 5th wheel AND a boat or bike in tow, wow, what a hoot. Our Vic, "The Jukebox," is our dingy when we're out, and there's some extra storage available along side the bike on the trailer, but not too much, 'cause it fills the thing more than I expected. The bike and trailer weigh together less than 1500 pounds, give or take, so I don't worry about not having surge or electric brakes, I just anticipate the road ahead and take it easy, haven't had any problems yet, the coach's brakes seem to be able to take care of that much with no trouble. Any more, though, and I'd upgrade, I expect.
GLTY
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Visionary
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| I guess he another one that never read his owners book to find out about his bike.
The bike should be taken away from him and given to someone that can read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Bay of Gigs, WA | ????????? |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | glighto11 - 2011-03-28 12:58 PM
I have thought out the same issue. Knowing that an 8 foot box is to short anyway, I would opt for a 6 foot box to keep the overall length down. Leave the tailgate down and cut a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 marine plywood to fit the floor and reinforce the tailgate. I would mount a harbor freight chock to the plywood in front. Believe it or not, having the gate down will also increase mileage. If you are worried about cornering clearance between gate and trailer you can slide in a 6 or 12 inch cat 3 hitch extension.
Myth busters proved that tailgate down does not improve MPG and also it leads to the truck bed losing shape.
Net gates and frame gates do not improve MPG but do deter bed shape changing
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Spfld, IL but temp Bay area, CA | If you don't plan on traveling in CA, I'd suggest a 5th wheel and tow the bike trailer behind. I did that last summer traveling to Fresno for work. Everyone asked if I had an "A" CDL. I said "No, why?''
The owner of the RV park where I'm currently staying, said CHP made a guy drop his bike trailer on the spot due to no CDL.
The reply was you need the CDL to tow two trailers in CA. I'm thinking when I relolcate up to the Bay area next month, I will make 2 trips. |
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Flowery Branch Ga | GURNZ----From what I understand about the law, you are covered by your home state. I.E. Ca requires that you have a plate on the front and rear of your vehicle, but here in Ga we only have a rear plate. Using this example the CHP cannot ticket me because I am legal acording to my home state laws. You might try printing off a copy of your home state laws that will apply to your case in the event you are pulled over. I am no lawyer so use your best judgement.
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Maybe a Ford F-750 custom.............. |
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Tourer
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Columbia, SC | glighto11 - 2011-03-28 1:58 PM
I have thought out the same issue. Knowing that an 8 foot box is to short anyway, I would opt for a 6 foot box to keep the overall length down. Leave the tailgate down and cut a 4x8 sheet of 3/4 marine plywood to fit the floor and reinforce the tailgate. I would mount a harbor freight chock to the plywood in front. Believe it or not, having the gate down will also increase mileage. If you are worried about cornering clearance between gate and trailer you can slide in a 6 or 12 inch cat 3 hitch extension.I actually have that exact setup (plywood with harbor freight chock) when I had a truck. I had a long bed, but had an auxiliary tank taking up some of the room.
Bummer that NO bed will fit it. Guess I'll have to look at toy haulers then. Thanks for the quick replies.
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Akron, Ohio | I would have to agree that a toy hauler is the way to go. For security and keeping the bike out of the dirt and grim from trailering. Also gives a dry place to do any work needed, even if it is just an oil change.
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | It's hard to picture myself without a pick-up any more. This rig looks kind of cool.
http://www.ezhaulerusa.com/catalog/item/7833894/8389713.htm
You have to buy a bed length specific base unit to attach the "spider".
Edited by Tarpits99 2011-03-28 6:35 PM
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what size bed truck fits a vision? tailgate UP