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| . 5 years ago: Small deck to the garage.....two expensive deck treatments.....each lasted one year. Same product that fixed this.......fixed Vision chirping. 25 years ago: Honda CBX inline aircooled 6 cylinder....6 carbs, 24 valves....slight smoking on speed shifts and downshifts. Same product fixed this Final clue: 4 drops of same stuff that took care of the deck and CBX smoking ....fixed the Vision chirping. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yuppppp....4 drops of Mobil 1 eliminated the Vision chirping....... in maybe 50 feet. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Q1. How long has it lasted A. 600 miles so far Q2. How loud was the chirping? A. So loud a Turkey Vulture attached the bike at 50mph.....I guess thinking the Vision was dying. So loud.......Harley bud commented on it ....and he was maybe 30 car lengths behind Q3. Dealer help? A. New tires were put on and belt adjusted. No change Q4. Do I care that this is a massive no no? A. I considered not posting this....so here is my apology in advance for violating all the motorcycle drive belt rules ....in the world Q5, Will I report back on how it worked long term? A. Yes, will update this every couple of weeks. Whatever happens, you will know. Q6. Mobil 1 worked on your dry old deck? A. Yupppp...going on 4th year this summer! Do it on a hot day, let it soak in for 24 hours and wipe off any excess. 99% soaked into the wood. Q7. Anything I would do different on the chirping? A. Maybe go with two or three drops vs four. Q8. Where did you put the 4 drops and what was weather and temperatures when you did this? A. Cool to Cold....maybe mid 50s and the 4 drops went on the lower part of the belt spread out evenly. Q9. So what exactly happened after you put the four drops on the belt and rode away? A. Chirping for first 10 feet or so was same......then over next 40 or so feet it got less and less....then gone. Q10. Do I recommend this for others right now. A. Ofcourse not......wait for my reports on all this and go from there.
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| ScoreBo - 2011-05-18 10:58 PM Mike, I am more curious if the deck is slippery when wet? I found that oil based floor exterior paints are slippery when wet as where the Mobil 1 is not like that, but there are things for you to know. Maybe a 100 times up/down those steps in the wet...no issues so far. After you do it....there will be a few some places that simply do not absorb the oil like the rest of the deck..... you need to wipe these off. Also knots in the wood will not absorb any oil and excess needs to be wiped off there. I also put some sand I had on the steps the first couple of days....but that was about it. First couple of days I checked it...but the hot sun pretty much took care of it all for me other than as noted above. I got this idea since our ole High School in Ohio had wood floors and steps.....and every year in the summer these were oiled and one hundred years of use and all is fine. Ofcourse this is inside. I would recommend you do a small area for testing ......side of a step...and wet it down with your hose so you know for your application. Our deck was about one year before being torn down .....but here we are going into the 4th year and it still looks great. Friend of mine commented how good it looked and tried it.....he has no issues. Lets us know how it turns out. Mike
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Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | What do you mean the 'lower' part of the belt? Could you describe the area applied to. Does lower mean the valleys in between the teeth, or the backside?
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| wroman - 2011-05-19 1:33 AM What do you mean the 'lower' part of the belt? Could you describe the area applied to. Does lower mean the valleys in between the teeth, or the backside? Walt Hello Walt Looking at the belt from a standing position.....I put the 4 drops of Mobil 1 on the belt teeth that were facing upwards toward me. Mike
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| Hi Thomas Good to know.....can you post your results. It would be good for all the options to posted so everyone can pick the one they want. Thx Mike Thomas - 2011-05-19 8:20 AM team222 Q7. Anything I would do different on the chirping? A. Maybe go with two or three drops vs four. Great that the chirping went away and with only a couple drops. I've been cleaning my belt with soapy warm water and letting it dry. Then spraying belt with a dry silicone .
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| I was on to the what you recommended (HD Poly Oil) and went to the Harley dealer here to buy it ......butttttttt......the service manager told me it was not for rear drive belts and they do not use it for that purpose. He read this to me from the parts book "Recommended for the engine compensator sprocket on primary belt drive models" Based on this I did not buy it  ..... however due to your favorable results I have added it to the fixes to that do work below. Thanks
This post and all your responses have resulted in three real world proven belt chirping fixes...... plus the Mobil 1 four drop approach which is in testing. Silicone Water Guard (Thomas)
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Harley Davidison Poly Oil (Dollarbill) Mobil 1 Four Drops in testing…. (Mike) Any more Vision proven belt chirping fixes out there we can add to this list Thanks to everyone Mike dollarbillwi - 2011-05-20 6:34 AM FYI - Have not had an issue on the Vision yet. But on the VN2000 I had it was bad and I use H-D POLY OIL 99860-81 General Polymeric. Worked great and lasted for a long time never had to redo it.
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Brighton, TN | Adjust the Belt. It takes a little time to do it, most mechanics won't. It's easier to slap some goo on and call it good. There was a post way back where the collection of Visions and those guys complaining to a tech rep at a meet, and he wound up adjusting belts on a bunch of Visions and correcting the problem that way.
I would be curious to know for those that STILL have this problem, if you were to only put some of this stuff on the side of the belt or the rear pulley inner sides would that cure it, seems if it did, then the rear tire alignment is off slightly causing it to rub.
That is the only thing I did to mine was crawl around on concrete, get the basic idea from the service manual and adjust, I don't remember how far out it was, but I remember it was a LOT, not just a couple of turns. So much so, that I had to loosen the belt a couple of times because it got too tight.
Of course, this is my own personal peave and one of the things I successfully corrected myself, around 5,000 miles on the odometer. I have put on four tires since then and over 50,000 miles and not one peep or squeaky Mickey Mouse. So yeah, I'm lightly partial to my solution.
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| I asked for someone to video the belt alignment in a few posts because I read the service manual and it does not make sense to me .......plus I have no way to get the Visions back end up in the air. Given this.... my strategy then became to simply count on the dealer doing the belt alignment correctly per the service manual and as such eliminate any belt chirping as part of each new tire change. Ahhhhhh....guess how that has worked out. So next time you do a tire change could you please do a video on the belt alignment for us/me. In the meantime, the best hope if have is that my Mobil 1 four drops solves the belt chirping. If this does not work out I will try one of the other proven results posted in this thread so for, but there is always a chance that a dealer might get it right during the next tire change.  Thanks for your reply
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pollolittle - 2011-05-20 11:17 AM Adjust the Belt. It takes a little time to do it, most mechanics won't. It's easier to slap some goo on and call it good. There was a post way back where the collection of Visions and those guys complaining to a tech rep at a meet, and he wound up adjusting belts on a bunch of Visions and correcting the problem that way. I would be curious to know for those that STILL have this problem, if you were to only put some of this stuff on the side of the belt or the rear pulley inner sides would that cure it, seems if it did, then the rear tire alignment is off slightly causing it to rub. That is the only thing I did to mine was crawl around on concrete, get the basic idea from the service manual and adjust, I don't remember how far out it was, but I remember it was a LOT, not just a couple of turns. So much so, that I had to loosen the belt a couple of times because it got too tight. Of course, this is my own personal peave and one of the things I successfully corrected myself, around 5,000 miles on the odometer. I have put on four tires since then and over 50,000 miles and not one peep or squeaky Mickey Mouse. So yeah, I'm lightly partial to my solution. Glad the others are working! |
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| 4 drops of Mobil 1 on drive belt teeth. 800 miles.....still no chirping |
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| pollolittle - 2011-06-04 1:14 PM 45000 more to go Ahhhhhhhhhh 45000 more .....to what......... 1. You do a belt adjustment video for those of us that need something like this 2. Miles chrip fixes posted in this thread have to go ......to make sure they really fix it 3. Maximum miles 4 drops of Mobil 1 will lubricate anything in this world.....inc Victory belt to stop it chirping |
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Brighton, TN | team222 post your 20 and see if your close enough to come over and video my next tire change which should be very soon within a week or two, getting down to a smooth tire. Almost 15k+, most I ever got. While your here we'll go ahead and fix your alignment issue also. I'll wait for the chirp to reappear.
I have about 45000 more miles than you and no chirping and no attention to the belt or associated drive system, other than the tire. So, if you can go 45000 more miles before you add another 4 drops of oil, I would have to agree that your fix worked and I'll have to post it along with my other list of fixes under the tech reference.
1. Never done such a thing, seems tough to hold tools and a video camera, where's Radioteacher when you need him. I will attempt to video something and explain it in great southern detail on what I did. But if you have no way of elevating the GInormous Vision, its a little tough to get it right.
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| I can help you with the video, I will send you a camera holding device that will allow you to do the the work and not have to operate the camera video at the same time. I have used this approach, so I am 100% sure it will work for you. If this is ok, pm me your uspo address. You might have a tripod....same result. The goal of my post was to get proven results on fixing the chirping for those of that can not do the factory belt adjustment ourselves, buttttttt still have the chirping after the new tires are installed. Those not knowing how to adjust the belt in my case ..... 2 dealers and me! I did read over your post on belt adjustment....it was then I realized that I really am not smarter than a 1st grader in reading comprehension and did my post on this topic. Thanks for doing the post though....I am sure most understood it and it helped them. Very Minor Nit: As far as 45,000 mile being the benchmark for belt chirping fixes to be included in your tech reference here....I think you have to admit you really do not know if your belt alignment will go the stated 45,000 miles on a single adjustment ...do you.....since you have to adjust your belt with every tire change. Sooooooooooooo....for other fixes here to qualify for your tech reference section non chirping, the mileage standard should be the same.... 10,000 to 15,000 miles between tire changes .....which is equal to your results Thanks for your reply and help Mike pollolittle - 2011-06-07 10:04 AM team222 post your 20 and see if your close enough to come over and video my next tire change which should be very soon within a week or two, getting down to a smooth tire. Almost 15k+, most I ever got. While your here we'll go ahead and fix your alignment issue also. I'll wait for the chirp to reappear. I have about 45000 more miles than you and no chirping and no attention to the belt or associated drive system, other than the tire. So, if you can go 45000 more miles before you add another 4 drops of oil, I would have to agree that your fix worked and I'll have to post it along with my other list of fixes under the tech reference. 1. Never done such a thing, seems tough to hold tools and a video camera, where's Radioteacher when you need him. I will attempt to video something and explain it in great southern detail on what I did. But if you have no way of elevating the GInormous Vision, its a little tough to get it right.
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Brighton, TN | Very Minor Nit update / correction: I have never adjusted the belt since the day I fixed it. Been through multiple rear tire changes and all I do is put a new tire on and bolt it all back together. NO ADJUSTMENT. I do have over 51,000 on the odo now and I fixed it around the 5,000 mile mark I believe, so move benchmark to 46,000.
Did I state somewhere that I had to adjust the belt at every tire change, if so where, and I will change accordingly?
Ok, I give, I'm apparently dealing with an engineer of some level or prior Military with excellent attention to detail or an older fellow with just an affection for explicit statements of correctness and no variance.
I too have a goal, help where possible, chide when available and ride when I can, without a chirp. I dealt with that dang squeaking, chirping belt, for over 4500 miles before I fixed it. Irritating to all get out, I could have taken the bike back in and told them to give me a new bike, if it was an option. I had had all I could take, 20k+ for a bike, and I got this embarrassing, chirping, gonna drive me crazy sound coming out of my new bike and nobody knows how to fix it. ARAARRGGGGHHHH.
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New Bohemia, Va | I feel so left out on this one because mine only growled until I adjusted by the lastest update and that was the first couple months of ownership. Never have had to really adjust it since, I have just for the practice, but by proper adjustment it feels loose anyways. I just give it a kick now and again. Never adjust it at tire changes either, and don't oil it. I'm always the loner.
The only real problem I'm having right now is the left handgrip tassles want to slip off. It's tight, but still slide back some, anybody have any ideas how I can fix this? Maybe there's a tassle engineer in the house...
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| OK here you go.....I have never taken a tire off a bike with a belt ...just chain driven bikes....and all required adjusted the chain to be re-adjusted when reinstalling the rim. I stand corrected. Once again.....there are those like you that know how to do the belt adjustment and have good results. There are those like me and the two dealers I have taken it to that do not have a clue or can not understand how to adjust belts even after reading a how to of a paragraph or two....but we do understand how to adjust belts required to hold up our pants. The point of this thread I started .....ended up being two fold. 1. Alternative ways to stop the chirping other than adjusting the belt. Three proven so far....one pending testing. 2. Would anyone that knows how to adjust the belt do a video for all of us that can not. I guess my point is when someone says they can not understand how to do the belt adjustment up front....that is what it means.....so stating that doing the belt adjustment over and over is the solution is a statement of the obvious for those of us that can not figure out how to do the belt adjustment in the first place.....right? Its that simple. So do you want to help out by doing the video or not. I would like you or someone to do this, would appreciate you or anyone else doing this and would be forever thankful for this to be a result of this thread. Do you want me to send you the holding device for your camera for the video? As far as your guesses related to me personally.....that is one specific thing you are really not an expert on and as none of your statements about me apply....though I do admit to being old ....also admit to being stupid (again in this same post) in not being able to figure out how to actually adjust the belt. Mike .....pollolittle - 2011-06-08 9:43 AM Very Minor Nit update / correction: I have never adjusted the belt since the day I fixed it. Been through multiple rear tire changes and all I do is put a new tire on and bolt it all back together. NO ADJUSTMENT. I do have over 51,000 on the odo now and I fixed it around the 5,000 mile mark I believe, so move benchmark to 46,000. Did I state somewhere that I had to adjust the belt at every tire change, if so where, and I will change accordingly? Ok, I give, I'm apparently dealing with an engineer of some level or prior Military with excellent attention to detail or an older fellow with just an affection for explicit statements of correctness and no variance. I too have a goal, help where possible, chide when available and ride when I can, without a chirp. I dealt with that dang squeaking, chirping belt, for over 4500 miles before I fixed it. Irritating to all get out, I could have taken the bike back in and told them to give me a new bike, if it was an option. I had had all I could take, 20k+ for a bike, and I got this embarrassing, chirping, gonna drive me crazy sound coming out of my new bike and nobody knows how to fix it. ARAARRGGGGHHHH. Anyway, continue on.
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| Again.......the point of this thread I started .....ended up being two fold. 1. Alternative ways to stop the chirping other than adjusting the belt. Three proven so far....one pending testing. 2. Would anyone that knows how to adjust the belt do a video for all of us that can not. What I am hearing is a couple guys talking down to those of us that do not know how to adjust the belt and can not comprehend a couple of paragraphs on how to do this .....this is not how this is supposted to work on any forum. Cap.... I do have a recommendion on how you can fix .....or better yet .....where you can put your left handgrip tassle. Mike Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-08 9:54 AM I feel so left out on this one because mine only growled until I adjusted by the lastest update and that was the first couple months of ownership. Never have had to really adjust it since, I have just for the practice, but by proper adjustment it feels loose anyways. I just give it a kick now and again. Never adjust it at tire changes either, and don't oil it. I'm always the loner. The only real problem I'm having right now is the left handgrip tassles want to slip off. It's tight, but still slide back some, anybody have any ideas how I can fix this? Maybe there's a tassle engineer in the house... |
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New Bohemia, Va | have you tried TheVOGNET or whatever it is called? I'm sure Dandy Andy has done one, if not he'll get 'er done for you. I don't have the talent, nor do I know what I'm doing. I try to follow the funky instructions and finally give up because my belt won't exactly center on the pulley. Since it doesn't chirp or growl at the prescibed tension, I am one happy camper. Sorry you're having such troubles and frustrations. |
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Brighton, TN | Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire.
I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then.
Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly.
Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close!
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New Bohemia, Va | pollolittle - 2011-06-08 10:03 AM
Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire.
I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then.
Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly.
Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close!
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| pollolittle - 2011-06-08 11:03 AM Not meaning to ruffle the feathers, I apologize, in my humblest text typed finger laden way. This is a forum of text, not inflection or CaPS. I will attempt to do a brief video when I change my tire. I believe I can find a suitable holding device but I don't think my tripod goes that low. I should be changing the tire within the next week or so, so we shall see if I can remember till then. Didn't know I was beating the dead horse, but will promptly put down the club and walk backward slowly. Thanks Cap'n for Helping me out! Whew that was close! First off, no one is better at creating forum issues and and ticking people off than me.......no one..... I know this.....most if not all this online forum stuff never happens at rallies when were people are actually talking to each other. Now ofcourse other things do happen at rallies....and it is odd how most of it seems so funny at the time.... after a few or more beers. Lets move on......all of us not try to be so cute in replies than can be misunderstood on forums......and I will try to not be sooooo sensitive on being sooooo stupid about techincal stuff most everyone else knows. Fair Nuff Onwarddddddddddddddddddddddddd and reallllllllllllllllllllllly looking forward to your video. Now about that beer Mike |
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| Thanks and interesting. We never thought our Vision belt made noise in summer here in PA...... just chirped in cold/colder weather. Odd thing....with 4 drops of Mobil 1 we now realize our belt was also making noise in summer, not just as loud as cold weather. We did not realize this because we never had the belt have no noise ever until trying the 4 drops of Mobil 1. Keep posting updates so we can add them to the list on this Thanks Mike Cometman - 2011-06-08 11:45 AM I did my wife's oil change this past weekend, her Vegas was chirping badly, I dipped my finger in the oil, rubbed a little bit on the belt in a few places, 600 miles later still no chirping.... |
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Baltimore, Md | I was just at my dealer yesterday and asked the head wrench about my 08 chirping and belt alignment. He pretty much dismissed the alignment as the issue and said the belt dressing/oil route is usually only temporary anyway and not recommended. He said my belt was correct tension, smooth and showed no issue and that it was likely the sprocket, as many have suggested. He took some quick photos and said he would call Polaris and get back to me, even though my Vision is out of warranty. Today I got a call from him and he said Polaris is going to send him a replacement sprocket for my bike under warranty. I was surprised to say the least, but look forward to getting it done and losing the bird calls. My recent trip with 2 old friends (one BMW LT, one Road King) garnered some praise for the Vision, but also comments about the chirping. Of course, my BMW buddy demonstrated the LT 45mph handlebar vibration/wobble, so I felt less bad.
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| Why dont your try a couple drops of oil on the belt in the meantime until your new sprocket arrives and is installed. Report back if you would. Thanks Mike flint350 - 2011-06-08 5:34 PM I was just at my dealer yesterday and asked the head wrench about my 08 chirping and belt alignment. He pretty much dismissed the alignment as the issue and said the belt dressing/oil route is usually only temporary anyway and not recommended. He said my belt was correct tension, smooth and showed no issue and that it was likely the sprocket, as many have suggested. He took some quick photos and said he would call Polaris and get back to me, even though my Vision is out of warranty. Today I got a call from him and he said Polaris is going to send him a replacement sprocket for my bike under warranty. I was surprised to say the least, but look forward to getting it done and losing the bird calls. My recent trip with 2 old friends (one BMW LT, one Road King) garnered some praise for the Vision, but also comments about the chirping. Of course, my BMW buddy demonstrated the LT 45mph handlebar vibration/wobble, so I felt less bad.
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, AR United States | I don't know what kind of rubber the belts are made from, but having seen industrial V-belts ruined by oil, I myself would not intentionally put oil on it. We were also taught the belt dressing is for flat belts and softens rubber, shortening belt life. |
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Baltimore, Md | Honestly, I don't really want to put oil on it, especially just to test a theory, when it's already going to be solved by the dealer. I don't want to chance causing a problem I don't already have.
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| Good point....sorry I brought it up. Did your dealer say what has to be present for the sprocket to be replaced under warranty. I have an 08.....so looking forward to seeing if the new sprocket solves it. Does anyone know the serial number range of the 08 reported sprocket issues? I will keep reporting how long my 4 drops keep the chirping quiet. Mike flint350 - 2011-06-08 10:37 PM Honestly, I don't really want to put oil on it, especially just to test a theory, when it's already going to be solved by the dealer. I don't want to chance causing a problem I don't already have.
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| I read what you stated in doing some research on these belts and checking posts on other forums. All I know at this point is below are three real world proven belt chirping fix results so far that have worked for various mileages ....check back through the posts for specifics Silicone Water Guard (Thomas)
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| I am glad I did a search and found this. My dealer re-alligned my belt, and the chirping came back in a couple hundred miles. I got a new tire mounted by the same mechanic, and six hundred miles later, chirping is back. Only when the temps are below 70 and after riding for about 5 miles it was gone, but I don't want to listen to it.
So, after reading this I am going to try carmex, seems to me like it would cause the least possible damage to the belt, yet not have to be re-applied very often. I'll update later. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | I see no reason to risk belt integrity by applying anything to it. Take the time to adjust it properly and it won't chirp. I had the dealer do my three times. A Waste of time. I followed the procedures on this blog myself, (20 minutes tops), and haven't heard a peep in over 10k miles, in temperatures from 24F to 103F. |
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Visionary
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| Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking
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 Belt Alignment.pdf (50KB - 37 downloads)
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Visionary
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| I'm guessing the reason its done this way is cause of the ling rod.
Me I use caning wax $2.95 at walmart. I rubber it on the hole length of the outer edge. 1200 mile and no chirp. Now keep this in mind if you use oil of any thing that stays wet it will pick up dirt and dirt will cut your belt or cause fraying.
Our belt will very as must as 20 thousand that why we chirp |
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Cruiser
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| john frey - 2012-06-17 8:35 PM Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking This is not directed at you (John Frey)...... I went into this before in this thread so here is the short version.........maybe in this decade just one of those that are good mechanics on this forum, have solved the belt chirping problem via adjust the belts will spend a hour or so doing a video on belt adjustment vs a taking hours compling/posting a 45 page narrative and then turning the thread into their own 3rd grade comedy routine at the expense of the rest of us that are less mechanically skilled. (Excludes dealer mechanics that can still can not adjust the belt and stop the chirping ofcourse) Sidebar: Testing of the 4 drops of Mobil 1 solution has given only 1200 to 2000 mile relief from the chirping. |
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Cruiser
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| UPDATE: Belt chirping Mobil 1 four drops test results 1200 to 2000 miles ......then chirping comes back |
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Central Wisconsin | johnnyvision - 2012-06-17 7:35 PM Read this real close cause it tells you how to aline and it goes againest our thinking John thanks for posting the Belt Alignment.pdf info. My rear tire was wearing slightly more on the right side.
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Visionary
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| My canning wax has been just over two thousand miles and in rain and still hush hush sweat belt. No oil not good. Rain this week end will fix it the right way |
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New user
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| My chirping issue on my 2012 Vision was in the front fairing. You could lean in on the access panel and it would go away. The original symptom was that it would only chirp at certain RPMs - 2-2.5k. After about 500 miles tho it broke itself in and no more chirps. |
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Visionary
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Brighton, TN | Team222 - where in tarnation are you? Maybe you hold the camera and somebody adjusts for you. I seem to run out of hands and non greasy fingers to do both. I just rebuilt the entire front end and didn't take one photo. I don't know how some of these guys do it. |
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