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New Bohemia, Va | everything was normal when I started up to leave work. When I roll on the throttle it shoots up to 18v, the check engine lite comes on as well as the battery lite. At idle everything returns to normal. Any other ideas? |
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Central New York | That would be my first guess. In any case, I would use all the high draw things you can to try to burn off excess juice till you get home. Seat heat, grips, etc. |
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New Bohemia, Va | I thought about that but didn't want to destroy anything else so it's sitting at work all by its lonesome. Going to call and see if it is worthy of warranty persuit, if not, I guess I'll be ordering a regulator. |
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Orlando, FL | Yup. Happened to me right after my 500 mile check up. hit the throttle and voltage spike, check engine light, etc. etcv. Then all returns tp normal. And as long as I dd not rev above 4000 all was ok. It was the Voltage Regulator. Check it. Covered under my warranty. |
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Central New York | Well Cap, I think Polaris should cover everything for you, just to see how far a Vision can really go. |
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| If you have the extended warranty then it should be a non issues since it is obviously a critical engine related part.
Oh, and yes, I would also agree that it would be the voltage regulator and I agree with you not taking the chance on riding it home even with everything switched on, the last thing you would need is a voltage spike that takes out the ecm or your stereo unit. |
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New Bohemia, Va | getting a trailer and taking it home today. tomorrow, off to the dealer two 1/2 hours away. I look forward to the ride home. Sad, sad, day for the Bentley, but I'm not complaining. If they won't warranty it, I guess I'll change it myself, we'll see...anticipation and caging is making me crazy. |
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Edited by Thomas 2011-08-25 9:57 AM
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Central Wisconsin | Cap'n Nemo - 2011-08-24 5:39 PM...Any other ideas? Might be a good time to look at the stator windings for any dark/burn coloring. Just curious do you happen to know if the voltage regulator is a series or shunt style?
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New Bohemia, Va | i ain't a messin' any further than having the regulator changed out, that's external, the stator is internal. I don't know if it is series or shunt (I hope we're allowed to say that), I do know it has fins and mounted under and in front of the bike frame for all the front tire debris to hit... |
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| Cap, how many miles do you have on your totally unreliable, too far between crappy dealers Vision now? Last I saw you had broken the 90K mark. Oh, please forgive the excess sarcasm!
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New Bohemia, Va | 90,000+ is good enough. I decided that the only way that I'll disclose the mileage is if we meet. I was posting my mileage to keep the encouragement going for those that think they bought junk. However, folks felt I was "showing off" or bragging. But as Will would say "no brag, just fact"*. I've certified the Vision Cap'n Nemo proof and if you ever met me you would understand that statement as well. The fact I don't have a dealer right out side my front door further enhances the eliteness of this machine in my mind. Sorry that I didn't answer the question out right, but let's just say it's enough miles...
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Brighton, TN | I think I was looking for proof that I don't have to trade it in befor 90k+. Now I'll never know. OH, the Travshamockery! I do wonder why the new 2011's just hit my dealer showroom, they are pretty but a little late ain't they. |
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San Antonio, TX | Did you loose your regulator during the earthquake?
It could fall under the "Act of God" clause on the extended warranty.
Edited by radioteacher 2011-08-25 2:28 PM
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New Bohemia, Va | radioteacher - 2011-08-25 2:26 PM
Did you loose your regulator during the earthquake?
It could fall under the "Act of God" clause on the extended warranty.
the day after the earthquake.
As I said, everything was normal that morning. When I started the bike, I checked the lights out, all of them, turn-signals, high-beams, etc. I don't do that leaving work. When I rolled out of the parking spot and around to the upper deck, I basically idled it up to the upper part of the deck, so the R's never got to 2,000, but I don't normally do that either. Then when I got up the ramp I rolled on the throttle and I noticed the red engine check light so I rolled off and noticed the battery light. I figured it was just fluking on me so I shut the bike off and sat and waited for a moment. Started up, rolled on the throttle and it was the same all over again. I disconnected the battery, waited, reconnected, disconnected the ECM, reconnected, disconnected the regulator, ran it without the regulator connected, all the same results.
It just seems odd I did the light check, as I do at home, and idled the bike on take-off as I do out of my drive-way, then this happens. I'm curious what triggered it other than it was just old with it having 90,000+ plus miles on it.
Tomorrow will be a heart breaker because I'll be trailering the bike - I'm sick and will have to take something to keep me from getting too upset. I recently had an MRI done and that was tough, but I believe this will be tougher. The only other time she's seen a trailer was when the fuel pump went, but the dealer came and got it when I wasn't home, so I didn't see it.
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Brighton, TN | Just think of it as giving the Bentley a much needed rest, and valet service to its favorite dealer for a little one on one time from some close relatives.
Did you happen to have the regulator done under the recall? I see where they would replace the regulator, might ask? |
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New Bohemia, Va | yep - regulator - waiting verdict for recall or warranty or o-o-p.
update: no recalls Po. Where did you get that info?
Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2011-08-26 11:11 AM
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San Antonio, TX | I can picture the new Victory bikes at the dealer saying to "Bentley", "Hey old man, where you been?"
Ride Safe |
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New Bohemia, Va | WARRANTY!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Lumber Bridge, NC United States | nice. |
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San Antonio, TX | ChaChing! How long will it take to get one in? |
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| Cap, glad to hear things are being fixed to your satisfaction and under warranty!
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Central New York | Ain't life grand! |
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Brighton, TN | Capn (aka unknow alias VaI'verodeover100kmilesonthisherabikeRyder) - I got the info right off of this website. I can't believe a seasoned veteran of this site and don't know about the Tech link where you can look up recalls, bulletins, etc. Oh the travshamockery of it all!
If you can get it covered under the recall no money out of your pocket hopefully.
Top right corner of Home page! They made it pretty simple for a guy that's just rode hard!
Edited by pollolittle 2011-08-26 2:57 PM
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New Bohemia, Va | Done! The Bentley is in the shed. Takin' the tire to get the rear E3 mounted tomorrow during the her-a-cane. |
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Brighton, TN | Welcome home Bentley! Splash of gas for you and some of Granny Clampetts special elixir to soothe the withdrawal.
Edited by pollolittle 2011-08-26 6:38 PM
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New Bohemia, Va | I'd like to share my experience with the dealer that serviced by bike today for the voltage regulator. Not having a dealer close by and hoping to have it fixed under warranty meant trailering the Vision at least an hour to Virginia Beach or 2 1/2 hours to Forest, VA or White Plains, MD. I finally decided to take it the later place as I had stopped all the dealers at one time or another, but the one in Maryland came out as my pick. Since the bike was at work and on the way from my house to the dealer, I picked up the U-Haul motorcycle trailer and swung by and got it. It was a 140 miles one way so around 11:00 am I pulling into the dealer. I walked in and told the guy at the counter "I have a sick one", he finished and said "from Richmond"? Yes, he had remembered my phone call from yesterday and greeted me then took me back to the owner and chief technician. The owner/tech was working on an old triumph and he had several Harleys and Victory's in the shop. This speaks volumes in the fact he is a motorcycle technician and not just a Victory tech.
After introductions the discourse began discussing the regulator and the hopes of being covered by warranty. The regulatory is relatively easy to replace so I knew that if I had to do it myself all I'd pay is $170 for the new reg, but that was not my preferred option. He tells me something that "shocks" me, that the regulator is a wear item. When I tell him the mileage, the gloom continued when he said that is the expected life of one, but they still have to run it by the warranty folks.
I challenge that the regulator is a wear item and he comes back with "everyone wants something for free" and list things like "batteries, tires, etc. etc". Now it is at this point I begin to recall all the recent dealer discussions that has been on the forum and I see him as a person who encounters many folks standing at his door wanting him to fund their hobby. I assured him I'm not looking for free; it just seems that the regulator is "mechanical" but not a wear item as a battery or tire would be. He needs to put it on the Wrench so I back the trailer in the bay leaving the bike on the trailer to do the troubleshooting. It does comes up that the regulator is bad and shows no other faults, confirming it is the regulator. We held off the discourse as he continued to work on the Triumph while his wife (this is a family business) conversed with the warranty people giving them details. She also checks for a recall for my bike for the regulator and there is none. At one point he goes looks up the price, but doesn't check inventory. I thinking in my mind I'll have to come back regardless of the outcome.
Somewhere we start talking about "the forums" and I got the typical dealer reaction. He tells me no, he does not frequent the forum because of all the bickering and half truths. He calls it "the land of misinformation' and too much bad stuff gets shared and people complain about Victory but don't tell the full story. He also says that those who are still stuck in the Harley mindset likes to nick-pick Victory bikes apart. Now, I take all theses as credible comments because I agree with the things he said and he owns two Harleys and one Victory which he says is his best. I do not question him why he stills owns the Harleys, because it is immaterial. The shop sports everything Victory and they currently have two of the "World's Longest Test Ride" Cross Country's.
Finally the word comes back that it is a warranty item and he finally checks his inventory, and yes he has one. I ask if he wants me to leave it, he says no, take it off the trailer and he'll get me back on the road. I was pulling out at 1:30pm on my way home.
I came away with two thoughts. One, he could have been a bad dealer had I presupposed things and argued with him and two, he's just a man trying to make a living to support his family. Had the warranty people denied my warranty claim I would have plunked down the pesos and been on my way.
Oh, and one last thing, he told me to wash my bike, it's filthy, but he also lubed the kick-stand, clutch handle and brake handle. Overall a very good experienced, so I left them a tip to grab lunch off of. I'm a happy camper, and despite the distance I have a new dealer.
Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2011-08-26 7:53 PM
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Memphis | Nice. |
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Central New York | It's a fact, dealers are people too. Even Victory dealers. 
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