Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!
pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-04 5:58 PM (#9672)
Subject: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I'm getting good use out of my motorcycle insurance. I think my rates might start to go up.
Why me? Why me? (let the boo hooing begin again). I think I'm getting intouch with my feminine side way toooooo much! I guess I'm just fortunate, its a nice sunshiney day, perfect 70 degree weather, light white clouds in the sky. Nice gentle breeze a blowing and the thoughts of twentyhottiesomethings runnin' through my mind. It just feels like spring with just a little rutting going on.

With the above description one would think a nice ride on a Victory Vision would just sortof tap off a wonderful spring day. Rode into work this morning, light chill in the air and had to bundle up a bit. Cranked up this morning and the little battery light with the exclamation on it lit up and stayed lit for a few seconds then went out. No problems on the drive to work. Feeling like a good day.

3:00 pm rolls around, grab my gear and out I go. Headed across the lot, thinking what a wonderful day, I'm off work, gonna ride home and just enjoy today. Drop the backpack off in the trunk, grap the MP3 player loaded with 80's music, plug it in and turn the key to the accessory position (I have never used this position before, hehe!) and let the music start to flow. Start putting helmet on, slide a glove on and I'll be dang if half way through me some Def Leppard - Pour Some sugar on Me and my music just STOPS! This is a travshamockery, I love that song! Check in glove box and sure enough player still on. But wait, there is no power to the dash. Now what, I just had that failproof, don't drive it, recall done. There is no power anywhere. Turn key to Run position (like that position though!) and no juice anywhere. Headlight no come on, radio no turn on, dash not on, zilch, nada nothing. Okay, so I say I'll give it a moment. The heck with that, I start banging on the battery, yanking me some wires, and just giving it a general kick in the tires. Still nothing, turn key on and oil dummy light lights for just a minisecond and then goes out.

I decide to try out the Progressive Roadside Assistance, included in my insurance premium. So, I give a call that takes at least 15 minutes to get through to the right area after going through all their prompts. Then another 15 minutes to talk about how I'm feeling, am I stressed or in the mood, etc. I tell her I don't currently have any of those symptoms, I'm not as old as some of the geezers I hang with. But I/we digress and inform her that my bike is inoperable.

I go back after my chit chatty conversation and see with the key off my dash is blinking like christmas lights. This ain't Christmas and I ain't old St. Nick.

So, down to the question at hand. After pouring my heart and soul out to you guys and girls, I get the evil threat of taking my keys. So, which one of the axis of evils has done me in, I tell you. Ante' up, or I start using my weapons at hand.

I HAVE A BUCKN8KD, AND I AIN'T AFRAID TO USE IT! If he is unable to figure out who it is, then I will call in SANDCAMELJIM with the Phoenix heat and just let him loose. If your able to withstand all that. I will be forced to give a call to chandlerTom or TIMs, with the young twentysomethinghotties and see if that breaks you, you , you scallywag.
I shall get to the bottom of this one way or another. Whoever, you are come forward and the worst I will do to you is put you on BUCkN8kd's Mini HD chopper, or force you to stand with your arm around someofthebikinicladhotties, OH THE PUNISHMENT!

Where's the Napalm in the morning!
AARRRGGHHHH.
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kenhiggins
Posted 2008-05-04 7:34 PM (#9674 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 249
Montreal, QC Canada
I hope we are not in the same boat. After 24 hours of having possession on my new Vision, went to the local gas station for 1st fill up. After filling up and talking to everyone who walked by, NO START!!!

Apparantly, my "dealer" didn't check the recalls and we have a faulty ignition. My dealer sent 2 guys and a trailer to pick it up and I got it back the next morning. They did supply fast service on a Saturday and delivery on a Sunday but still no excuse for not checking the recall notices.

I'm going in for my 1st oil change and service next weekend and hope to get some answers or at least a sincere apology.
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GAgirlTrixie
Posted 2008-05-04 9:42 PM (#9676 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 320
Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay!

Crap...! I think I'm in this boat, too.

I got my Vivi back this past Thursday, after being at the stealer for over 3 weeks for this recall problem. Got her back, and my stereo dash panel doesn't work, no readout. Sound comes out of the speakers intermittently. New one on order. (Scared the heck out of me on the way home from work last night. About halfway home on my silent ride, suddenly the stereo starts working/ "Highway to Hell" blaring out of the speakers. I took it as a sign and didn't pass the slow driver I was stuck behind for several miles.... until it got the best of me, and I just had to....). Well, tonight, I stopped for gas and, while under the overhang, noticed my stereo panel, tho' not working, stayed backlit while I was fueling, again. Hubby was in his truck at the next gas pump. We went to go pull out, and I noticed the battery/exclamation light on and my amps at below 12 (brand new battery, replaced during the recall because the orgional was dead). We were going to go the Vets Clubhouse. I pulled up next to him and told him I was going to go on home, and the problem I was having. I payed attention to the battery gauge on the way home (I hadn't really done this since getting it back 4 days ago). While at full throttle, my amps were showing 15-16 amps, but at idle like at a stoplight, it would go down to 12. Yesterday, twice, she died when I went to take off from a stop. Hit the throttle, and everything went black. But, she restarted immediately. I guess she's going back to the dealer Tuesday...

(As I type this, there's a Vision TV commercial on Discovery... First time I've ever seen this.Kind of ironic...)

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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-05-05 2:15 AM (#9685 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
AHHHHA! You bunch of nay sayers! Oh, the battery cable, the ground, trickle charge it...I KNEW IT! although I have no idea whats wrong with any of the electrical problems we are having, and I'm just over 7k. Something is a foot! I have the trixie issues, however not so much lately. I lost my fuel guage for about 2k, but it's in good working order. I did roll some rocks and chicken bones, drink a beer and pour half of one out for "the homies" and haven't had the problem in a while. It looks as if Victory may have to figure out a new wiring harness solution, and recall what we currently have. Man, the cost for next years Victory Vision will sky rocket. I'm giving the "stink eye" to Pollo's battery issues, and smell napalm. It smells like....Victory. I'm tracking like a coon dog on a buttermilk buscuit..ehh? I just hope the dealers don't try sell me on the fix, the other old buzzards on here tried to give me. Battery cable my pimply behind. A brother knows a electrical problem, and knows what a voltage regulator does,,,,in essence, regulate the voltage so there is no fluxuations. THATS RIGHT, I SAID IT, TURN THE KEY, IT SHOULD GO TO 15+/- AND STAY THERE UNTIL YOU SHUT IT OFF! bunch of bums....POLLO, did you do the required, chicken bones and rocks roll? Cowboy hat, three pennies, and a party horn, 12 beers, and copy of Virgil Wards Fishing adventures. Peel off 4 labels (in tact) from the long necks, three puffs of a cheap cigar and a shot of Jager. After this is done, try the key again. If it doesn't work...well, who cares? Your hammered, slightly ill from mixing beer and Jager, and if that cheap cigar didn't get you sick, the FRICKEN NO POWER TO YOUR VISION WILL! I'm more upset than photographer trying to take a family photo of epilleptics. It's like my turrets in Sunday School, just down right WRONG!
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GAgirlTrixie
Posted 2008-05-05 7:58 AM (#9691 - in reply to #9685)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 320
Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay!

BUCKEYE - 2008-05-05 2:15 AM AHHHHA! You bunch of nay sayers! Oh, the battery cable, the ground, trickle charge it...I KNEW IT! although I have no idea whats wrong with any of the electrical problems we are having, and I'm just over 7k. Something is a foot! I have the trixie issues, however not so much lately. I lost my fuel guage for about 2k, but it's in good working order. I did roll some rocks and chicken bones, drink a beer and pour half of one out for "the homies" and haven't had the problem in a while. It looks as if Victory may have to figure out a new wiring harness solution, and recall what we currently have. Man, the cost for next years Victory Vision will sky rocket. I'm giving the "stink eye" to Pollo's battery issues, and smell napalm. It smells like....Victory. I'm tracking like a coon dog on a buttermilk buscuit..ehh? I just hope the dealers don't try sell me on the fix, the other old buzzards on here tried to give me. Battery cable my pimply behind. A brother knows a electrical problem, and knows what a voltage regulator does,,,,in essence, regulate the voltage so there is no fluxuations. THATS RIGHT, I SAID IT, TURN THE KEY, IT SHOULD GO TO 15+/- AND STAY THERE UNTIL YOU SHUT IT OFF! bunch of bums....POLLO, did you do the required, chicken bones and rocks roll? Cowboy hat, three pennies, and a party horn, 12 beers, and copy of Virgil Wards Fishing adventures. Peel off 4 labels (in tact) from the long necks, three puffs of a cheap cigar and a shot of Jager. After this is done, try the key again. If it doesn't work...well, who cares? Your hammered, slightly ill from mixing beer and Jager, and if that cheap cigar didn't get you sick, the FRICKEN NO POWER TO YOUR VISION WILL! I'm more upset than photographer trying to take a family photo of epilleptics. It's like my turrets in Sunday School, just down right WRONG!

BUCKEYE, I think that you have so much more than just "the trixie issues"....

Mother Victory is really screwing us with these electrical issues... I'd love to do a mid-country Meet-n-Greet. That would be a hoot, if we all thought our voltage regulators could handle it!

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devilboy
Posted 2008-05-05 12:30 PM (#9701 - in reply to #9691)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida
GAgirlTrixie - 2008-05-05 7:58 AM

BUCKEYE - 2008-05-05 2:15 AM AHHHHA! You bunch of nay sayers! Oh, the battery cable, the ground, trickle charge it...I KNEW IT! although I have no idea whats wrong with any of the electrical problems we are having, and I'm just over 7k. Something is a foot! I have the trixie issues, however not so much lately. I lost my fuel guage for about 2k, but it's in good working order. I did roll some rocks and chicken bones, drink a beer and pour half of one out for "the homies" and haven't had the problem in a while. It looks as if Victory may have to figure out a new wiring harness solution, and recall what we currently have. Man, the cost for next years Victory Vision will sky rocket. I'm giving the "stink eye" to Pollo's battery issues, and smell napalm. It smells like....Victory. I'm tracking like a coon dog on a buttermilk buscuit..ehh? I just hope the dealers don't try sell me on the fix, the other old buzzards on here tried to give me. Battery cable my pimply behind. A brother knows a electrical problem, and knows what a voltage regulator does,,,,in essence, regulate the voltage so there is no fluxuations. THATS RIGHT, I SAID IT, TURN THE KEY, IT SHOULD GO TO 15+/- AND STAY THERE UNTIL YOU SHUT IT OFF! bunch of bums....POLLO, did you do the required, chicken bones and rocks roll? Cowboy hat, three pennies, and a party horn, 12 beers, and copy of Virgil Wards Fishing adventures. Peel off 4 labels (in tact) from the long necks, three puffs of a cheap cigar and a shot of Jager. After this is done, try the key again. If it doesn't work...well, who cares? Your hammered, slightly ill from mixing beer and Jager, and if that cheap cigar didn't get you sick, the FRICKEN NO POWER TO YOUR VISION WILL! I'm more upset than photographer trying to take a family photo of epilleptics. It's like my turrets in Sunday School, just down right WRONG!

BUCKEYE, I think that you have so much more than just "the trixie issues"....

Mother Victory is really screwing us with these electrical issues... I'd love to do a mid-country Meet-n-Greet. That would be a hoot, if we all thought our voltage regulators could handle it!


I hate to say it but 13K later I havent had a single electrical glitch. I did both recalls and have not had a problem( yeah I know, now I am screwed!)
Mine was a very early production bike delivered sept 23 2007.
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varyder
Posted 2008-05-05 12:38 PM (#9702 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Contrar monfrar, could it be Pollolittle spreading despair everywhere? Note his seemingly heighten paranoia of how someone else is out to get him, when actually he has his team of gremlins scurrying around the country wrecking havoc on Visions everywhere. Interestingly enough he inquires of my location, knowing I have no issues with my fine Bentley. Could it be he's on the hunt for others as well? I think he's in cahoots with the HD folk to subvert Victory in having Victory with the Vision being the "ROAD KING" of the world. Ahhhh, chicken little, the sky is not falling except on you're devious plot! I suggest to all others to block all tranmissions from this Tennessee Tyrant who claims that the tornado never stops to keep from being infected by his mischievious deeds! You'll never get me... 
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-05 1:03 PM (#9704 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Headed your way, no worries, your next, varyder.
As for early production, mine is the earliest I have seen on here 0699, last four of VIN. I have had the regulator and the ignition switch recall done. This morning I have power, but didn't drive it. Felt like taking my 9mm to it.
BTW, varyder, it is "Au Contraire Mon Frere", it works better if you put all the FRANCH in it.
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SongFan
Posted 2008-05-05 1:05 PM (#9705 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
I think "Pollolittle" is Spanish for Tennessee Lightning Rod.  8,700 and my bike runs perfect.  Vintage Nov '07.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-05 1:09 PM (#9706 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I'm starting to think it might be FRANCH also. There is more to this saga, will update in a moment.
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JSP
Posted 2008-05-05 1:25 PM (#9709 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 226
on the edge of Los Angeles
May not be related but this is a major part of the electrical system.

When I took delivery of my bike it needed to be jump started. The thought was that it was an older inventory bike and the battery was just in need of a good charge. My ride home was well over an hour and when I went to restart, it was once again dead. Argh!

Placed on charger and within two hours it was working again. This problem persisted at very inopportune times and I have since taken the bike back for repairs.

The resulting failure so far is a faulty stator. Only one of the three legs was operational. I don't know if I am the first with this issue but I am concerned as it is also linked to the regulator and all other electrical components.
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-05-05 2:57 PM (#9714 - in reply to #9709)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
The day I picked up my bike it also had a dead battery. It was not an older inventory bike, built on 11/19/07 and out the dealer door on 12/05/08. Also, the battery ran down when I had the Stage 1 reflash as they had to keep the motor off and key on during that exercise. I have also ran the battery down on the bike just by it being on accessory for a short period. I feel the battery is undersized, or I've got a poor cell in my battery and it may not be taking a full charge. I'm going to have them check it in a couple of weeks.
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Miles
Posted 2008-05-05 3:41 PM (#9719 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
I can't believe I'm seeing this about the Vision's too, but I've seen this before. Don't panic. Anything electrical that affects "EVERTYTHING" is usually, note USUALLY very simple.

1. Now there has been talk of a RECALL of the the Ignition switch, so start there... simple things first...

2. On more than one occasion with Victory it's where the GROUND (black) BATTERY CABLE ATTACHED TO THE CHASSIS!!!. This can wreak havoc. On the V92C, the powdercoat was so good that the only "connection" was really the threads, and if they used locktite, well... there wasn't much of a connection. It's a bear to get at that end of the cable, so it's overlooked, OFTEN. DO NOT just check to see if it's tight. REMOVE the bolt. Insure the washer and chasis is all metal to metal (as opposed to a metal-to-paint-to-metal), even file a little around the hole (the washer will cover it) to insure it's a metal to metal fit.

Hope this helps.
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-05-05 4:51 PM (#9721 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
I had the ignition recall performed two weeks ago and the bike's was running great. Yesterday, I experienced the stalling while entering the turnpike. I tried doing a rolling clutch start and no luck. I pulled in the clutch, hit the ignition switch and it started right up.

I can only guess that the ignition recall did NOT solve the stalling issues.
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varyder
Posted 2008-05-05 4:58 PM (#9722 - in reply to #9721)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

PalmBeachRider - 2008-05-05 4:51 PM I had the ignition recall performed two weeks ago and the bike's was running great. Yesterday, I experienced the stalling while entering the turnpike. I tried doing a rolling clutch start and no luck. I pulled in the clutch, hit the ignition switch and it started right up. I can only guess that the ignition recall did NOT solve the stalling issues.

PBR, I'm convinced that is a seperate issue, I've never, that I know of, experienced the ignition stall problem, though I have had a stall problem, I don't loose lights or anything. However, the stalling issue seems to have been fouled plugs on my ride and suggest that you check those. Since my tech cleaned the plugs at the 7,500 mark, I do not have the issues I once did and I'm getting the gas mileage I expect, 38mpg scootin', 42 - 44mpg cruisin'. Deem oxagin sinsors seem to be too sinitive and maybe causin' the canfusion that causes it to stall.

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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-05-05 5:10 PM (#9723 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
Thanks Varyder. I'm fortunate to have one of the "good" dealers and will be due for the 3,500 checkup in a week or two. I'll have him check the plugs during that visit. I'm also installing a Utopia backrest. While the seat is the most comfortable stock seat I've ever owned, after a couple of hours, I could use some additional back support. I'm only five and a half feet tall and am probably reaching a bit to get to the grips. Until someone comes up with a good solution to pull the bars back, I think the backrest should suffice on long rides.

I had the trunk on for the first 500 miles, then removed it for 2,000 miles. I recently put it back on and was wondering what it would feel like on the highway. After 15 minutes, I forgot it was there.
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jama
Posted 2008-05-05 5:35 PM (#9724 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 293
Arkansas
PBR, when you get the Utopia, if it seems a little high,
( mine did- I'm 5'8" try installing the back pad upside
down like someone else suggested on here. Worked
great for me!
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g1nomad
Posted 2008-05-05 8:58 PM (#9742 - in reply to #9676)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 562
SC, Bluffton
GAgirlTrixie - 2008-05-04 9:42 PM

About halfway home on my silent ride, suddenly the stereo starts working/ "Highway to Hell" blaring out of the speakers.



I like your radio's filter. Nice choice when to work. My AC/DC is on Wal-Mart's cheapest
MP3 player they sold. The Vision is teaching me new technology.

Sorry to stray from the original posting. So far, so good on the electronics. All displays
function well. Radio clarity is crap, but MP3s sound much better?

Herb
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-05-06 2:51 AM (#9758 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
The mid country visit sounds awesome. Hey, get this, the easy fix was....someone on this site, and I won't mention who, told me to adjust my riding style? ADJUST MY RIDING STYLE?!!!! Thats causing my stalling....BECAUSE OF MY RIDING STYLE?!! AHHHHH! If I ever see that person working in a repair shop, I'll kick him in the "twig and berries"! PolloLittle, your hexed, vexed, and overall surrounded with bad ju-ju. Dude, I'm telling you, chicken bones, dice, rocks, party horn, 12 pack of Bud (you need 13 beers, pour the 13th out for the "hommies", cowboy hat, assless chaps, and a Franch dictionary. Find one frenchmen, kick him in the "boys" have your wife in the french maid out fit, burn the Franch dictionary and moon a cop. That should solve your bike issues. You may have other issues to resolve, but the bike will run fine.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-06 7:43 AM (#9761 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
GAgirlTrixie - can the radio be disconnected and see if it runs right! I just wonder if you have any problems with supposedly the radio out of the picture. The pain is starting to be felt at my end. Did she just say "trick issues"! Buckn8kd, You are in more dire need of a b#@wj*b than any white man in history (end plaigairism.
Hopefully, my dealer is good at this kinda thing and can figure it out quickly enough.
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-05-06 8:32 AM (#9764 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
The Buckeye...is twisted, naughty, and just a bit unstable. As you may know, this is my alter ego, since the people that live in my helmet won't let me act out in public, especially if the law is around...damn coppers. I have mastered "pour some sugar on me" on my guitar, so if my vision shuts down by a bar, I can pick up a guitar and finish what the mp3 started. I know HWY 2 hell, but I live on that stretch of road and preffer to stay away from it when able. Sometimes a brother/sister can only take so much. By the way, I might be part Aborigani and part N.African. Then again, I could be all German and love the bratwurst and doing the "chicken dance" when ever I have a few extra minutes. I tried the slap dance with my wife, but she "close fisted" and knocked me out. I think she's on to the "many" friends I have in my helmet, but we aint telling knowhow. She's sneaky fast, and waits till I'm drunk to hit me in the face with a loaded pork chop. What that has to do with price of beans in China, who the heck knows? It was in the library, by the figure skater, with the lead pipe.
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-05-06 8:35 AM (#9765 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
no coffee, mids getting longer and longer. I SEE DUMB PEOPLE!....that guy in the mirror keeps looking me in the eye...I think he means to do me harm and is trying to pick a fight...punk
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SongFan
Posted 2008-05-06 10:55 AM (#9770 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
I think I found the cause of the Pollo/Trixie gremlins.  Both bikes are black.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-05-06 10:54 PM (#9816 - in reply to #9770)
Subject: RE: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
SongFan - 2008-05-06 7:55 AM

I think I found the cause of the Pollo/Trixie gremlins.  Both bikes are black.


Dont say that! Mine's black and so far so good. (knock on wood, OW!)
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-06 11:26 PM (#9831 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I think mine just needs a case of Dr. Pepper, so of BuckN8kd's mojo, some Songfan twisty huntin', cjnoho's flight with soaring eagle, then a little blackcamelJim with some Desert sand thrown in and stir it all up. Maybe that'll fix it up. I'll give it a shot.

I still got to finish this story. Had I been carrying a 9mm I would have shot the tow truck driver. He almost put it back in the shop, by almost destroying the fairing. Sometimes I wonder!
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-12 12:23 PM (#10118 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
thinking!
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-12 2:46 PM (#10125 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
still thinking
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-12 3:35 PM (#10127 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
still thinking, almost done thinking.

Okay, like Paul Harvey would say, "Now you know the rest of the story!" Not yet, though.

Alrighty now, let me just start by saying that the Harley bash over on the other thread is getting more play than a Rooster in a Hen house, and he gets a lot of play. Obviously I don't rant enough, maybe guns and very big sticks will get your attention. I digress, lightly jilted, but nothing that twentyyearoldhottiesomethings can't take care of or a psychiatrist with a bar stocked with Dr. Pepper and Crown Royal. Ever make you wonder if the people who make Crown Royal are the same ones that make RC Cola.

On with the show. So, there I was waiting for the infamous tow truck driver to show up. I found out he came out of Jackson, TN, which, is over an hour away from my broken down location.
Let the waiting begin, by this time I could have called any of my buddies to grab my truck and trailer and come get me.

Meantime, back on the ranch, I try to make sure the tow truck can get through the gate. Go down to the guard shack and am informed that the area is a now walking zone. I ponder the question to him that since I am broke down would he like for me to roll up to his shack on my broke down bike. He redirects me to another location to figure out how to get my bike back home and off the grounds. I get on the phone with the Security Lt., she lets me know again about the no walking area and blah, dee blah dee blah. So, to get a tow truck driver on, they need company and driver name. Told her I didn't have that information due to the insurance company had not called back with that information. Well, as Murphy would have his way with me, Call waiting is now showing up with the insurance company number. I tell her, they are calling me, I gotta go. She keeps reiterating that they have to verify all this info, and that I need to get it to her immediately. I tell her I gotta answer it, she reiterates again. I finally get her to hang up and so does the Insurance company. GRUMBLE< GRUMBLE. Wait about 30 mins. to see if they are going to call back, call the ins. company back and guess who is calling on call waiting, the tow truck driver. Hang up with ins. company and also the driver. Call driver and tell him I have to have his information so it will be authorized for him to get into the facility and he tells me its all authorized. I have to politely explain to him that it is not through the ins company but through the facilities security guards. OHHH!

Now let the waiting begin again. Keep telling myself to be patient gotta go through this to make sure the service is worth it..... About an hour and a half roll by and I finally see the tow truck driver pull up to the two locked gates with no guards. I have to call him and explain that he needs to go down to the next gate. OHHH! He gets down to the next gate and STOPS!

Thirty minutes go by, finally Truck moving again, except the guards escorting him have no idea on where I am. Now, mind you, there are security cameras all around, I have been talking to at least half of the security staff and yet, they still have no idea. Tow truck driver tells them he knows where I am at, but they ain't buying. They wait some more.

Once again, moving, yeah, if they can just get close enough I will push it over there. No need they made it all the way to the bike and the security guards park in front of my bike. It takes them at least two minutes to figure out that no one is moving including the tow truck who is waiting for them to move with his bumper pressed up to theirs. LIGHT BULB, they move! Tow truck can now finally back up to me, no trailer or dolly, this should get interesting.

He wants my help in holding it and then pushing it up onto the bar which is like 6 inches wide, and barely long enough. We manage to get it close and I hang onto it until he starts getting his straps around it. He throws one over the handlebars and hooks it too itself, not without trying to just hook the bar with all the wires around it. At this point, I try to explain to him that it is not wise to tie it down via the handlebars across the fairing to the clevis on the bumper of his truck. He ignores me and tells me he is not done. I then reiterate the weight of the bike and that there is no hard supports under the fairing to support the load he is about to tie it down with. I also POINT out the tie down location under the fairing above the rear tire. He just tells me it is not a good place to tie it down. I leave him alone for a moment, he ties down the rear to the tipover locations, no problem there. Then he revisits the front by adding another strap to the handlebars.

I explain to him in great detail that he is about to bust all of the lower fairing along with the top portion of the fairing and is going to be out a lot of money. He turns and looks me square in the eye and tells me, "Sir, I do this all the time, I take care of your bike like it was mine." Oh, NO! Then the next statement "Sir, just give me a minute to tie the bike down it will be fine, I know what I'm doing, we haul antique cars all the time." I thought, none of my cars and never my bike again! As, he starts to lift the bike and it is hooked to the clevis's the front end is starting to compress but so is the fairing. He lifts again and one of the straps slides up under the upper fairing where the mirror is located and I just start yelling at him that he is destroying my bike. I get the I know what I'm doing. I have to phsically point out to him that the strap has slid under. He undoes that strap and reattaches it. I started to really lose my cool. Then he looks at me and says we'll strap it down however your want, but I know what I'm doing. Fine do it my way.

Isn't this fun, I must take intermission. I'm going to get my 9mm, I have a business call to make.
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GAgirlTrixie
Posted 2008-05-12 5:14 PM (#10131 - in reply to #10127)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 320
Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay!

Much worse than Trixie issues...

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JSP
Posted 2008-05-12 5:46 PM (#10132 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 226
on the edge of Los Angeles
Pollo,
Do tell more just when the story starts to gain speed we are out here wondering where the tow truck has dropped you off
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-13 11:27 AM (#10164 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Everybody got their sodas and popcorn, juju beans, and their redhots, ready? I shall continue.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-13 11:27 AM (#10165 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Everybody got their sodas and popcorn, juju beans, and their redhots, ready? I shall continue.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-13 12:07 PM (#10168 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Everybody got their sodas and popcorn, juju beans, and their redhots, ready? I shall continue.

There I was deep in the jungles of Tow Truckdom, my arch enemy, with lift lever in hand ready to deliver the final blow to my poor Victory Vision. After all the popping and cracking and panels being squished, He, finally, has a LIGHT BULB of his own, go off. It might have burnt out, but I replaced it for him and he's all better now.

NOTE: No Tow Truck Drivers were hurt during the taping of this memory.

He has now, not so graciously, decided to tie it down my way. We tie it down under the airbox, where it is tied down for shipping. He goes, huh, that's pretty stable. I just said, "Ya, Think!" Then, he decides to tie it down again with another separate strap. I think for a moment he's got it figured out, that is a fleeting thought, which is immediately replaced with fear and abandonment for my own bike's safety. He attaches a hook, right behind the rear cylinder, where it attaches to the frame. Then, runs it toward the front, again, pressing on the front fairing. I reiterate again, scratches and more pressure. I get the complimentary, "We tied it your way, now I have to be sure it ain't going nowhere!" I tell him Okay, but your gonna either break or scratch that panel before it ever makes it to the house. His response, "I gotta tie it down!" Okay!

Now as he is lifting the bike, the two winch hooks are right above my front access panel, guess what starts to drag across the front of my bike. I once again have received the opportunity to yell at him again and let him know to "STOP!" Your scratching my bike up, please move those off of my bike. He lets me know, Okay, then starts to tie them up and out of the way. I am surprised at this point that I still have words left in the English Dictionary that I remember other than manly expletives. Or, that I haven't been reduced to a grumbling, hysterical, caveman whose last bit of flame just died out and I don't know how to start it back up.

We, finally get under way @ 45mph. We check along the way and all is good and it takes about an 1 1/2 hours to go 50 miles. Finally, home at last, pull down to the shop, I'm letting him know to drop it right there and I'll push it the rest of the way. He gets out and says how you gonna push it in this wet ground. I tell him, to drop it and I will take care of. We all know at this point you don't want this feller near your bike, muchless near your shop. So, we get it unloaded and he writes on the bill, "Tied down per customer instructions, no damage! Sign here!" I said do what, at this point I am closer to my 9 than I should be, considering mental state. I reiterated the above statement and then started to argue about what he had or had not done. I told him if there is any damage it won't be visible, it would be under the panels other than the scratches. I should have called somebody who would have told me to write a statement, instead I just wanted him GAWN (aka GONE)! So, I foolishly signed and said ADIOS.

I load it back up on my own trailer and no damage it incurred. It traveled like it was being shipped and I dropped it off at the Dealer on Tuesday for them to look at.

There is a another small story just in trying to get through the gate with my truck, trailer and bike. Needless to say, I couldn't bring it on and had to park out in the Visitor parking lot (UNSECURED).

I don't watch reality TV, I got plenty of my own. Thanks.

The dealer calls back on Thursday to let me know, if I can bring in my old ignition switch (which I had kept going from Street version to Tour, it comes with a whole new set of locks), they will swap them out and I can test it to see if that fixes it. I got to ride on Saturday a few hours and no issues.

Monday evening, I decide to clean it and what do I find but the lower front right fairing will move approximately a 1/2 inch or more in and out. It is busted, now what do I do. I call Progressive and tell the first guy who sends me over to Roadside Assistance who then sends me over to my claims department to start a claim. The lady calls me this morning, I give her this shortened version of the story and she tells me she will call the towing company and see what they will do. If they do nothing, then I need to come up with deductible (this will be the second time this year) and they will cover it. Then, they or I will try to get my deductible back out of the towing company. I don't see that happening, but I will wait and see.

That should be about it. I am still riding it, hate to put it in the shop.

Note: FRS I will be visiting you at some time, I need a loaner bike and the appropriate response to the loaner is, "YES!" Can do, Will do, Love to. Since you are one of my most valued customers and bring me so much repair work, it would be our pleasure. I know you are reading this, so how do I get that done. She wants me to leave it so ya'll can tear it apart and I just hate to be lonely. Maybe, I negotiate for the stage 2 exhaust, c'mon something.
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DesertJim
Posted 2008-05-13 12:29 PM (#10169 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 496
Scottsdale AZ
Po - You have more patience than I do - There would have been "road kill tow guy at mile marker 12" in that situation with me. I am REALLY starting to feel bad for you, tissues were in each hand reading this travesty of events. OMG, how is all the bad stuff happening to you. Maybe you should JUST work on the patches for about six months and see if this "black cloud" will pass. I am in fear of your own life as well as others. Is your family OK? Maybe you could try acupuncture, I heard that could help.
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GAgirlTrixie
Posted 2008-05-13 12:29 PM (#10170 - in reply to #10168)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Tourer

Posts: 320
Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay!
I hate stoopid people.... they try to interfere with yer riding time. That blows, pollo........ Good thing he didn't get into your shop!
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JSP
Posted 2008-05-13 1:08 PM (#10173 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Cruiser

Posts: 226
on the edge of Los Angeles
With all of Pollo's misfortunate issues he will probably win the Lottery
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-05-13 1:45 PM (#10176 - in reply to #10173)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Amazing........!!!!
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-13 2:10 PM (#10178 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Phone call from Insurance adjuster, she takes recorded statement. Asks me If I signed anything stating no damage and of course that I should have wrote I disagree, which I didn't. She said if the tow company wants to continue to do their tows they can't treat customers like this. She said she will continue to talk with them and advised me not to talk to them. Probably good. I figures I'm out another $500 for stupidity. She said she couldn't see how this would hold up but they are faxing it over the copy I signed. Screwed again.

Me thinks, me dig hole and stick head in hole like ostrich and just hide. I too, wonder sometimes, how this happens to me and I can't dig out of it. I think I need a blog spot like PalmBeachRider. I would rather have bought a used truck and trailer to get me home than have to go through this BS. Or, just the truck, a few straps, wa la headed home.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-13 2:11 PM (#10179 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
as for the Lottery, I would probably win it but couldn't find it, dog ate it, kid shredded it. Any number of things would go wrong.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-05-14 1:50 AM (#10206 - in reply to #10173)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
JSP - 2008-05-13 10:08 AM

With all of Pollo's misfortunate issues he will probably win the Lottery


No one I can think of deserves to win more that pollo. Hey pollo!!! If you do win, can I borrow some money??????
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-05-14 4:46 AM (#10207 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
poot, you have been thru the ringer brother! I can't believe the pain and anguish your putting yourself through. Dude, 12 dark beers, and do the German Chicken dance. High fives for not killing the knuckle dragger, or punching the security LT. in the ovaries. Has the drama ended?
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-05-14 8:18 AM (#10215 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
cjnoho, sure why not, maybe it won't instantaneously combust in my hands before it gets sent to you. I'm feeling the need to search for Soaring Eagle over the Grand Canyon.

Buckn*kd - The drama doesn't end till I take it in to find out what is busted and at the moment, I won't be taking it in until this coming Saturday. Then I can leave for a week, headed toward Varyder. Varyder, beware. Take a vacation, go to Florida or Sunny scorched Southern California. I am thinking 12 dark beers, would be good soothing, but man some of that stuff is stout. I like a good whiskey a little smooth, warm and soothing for the pains. Not familiar with the German chicken dance, but really trying to learn the KSA Rooster Dance (kickin' somebody's A??)

You know, I waited 16 years for this. What was I thinking? Anything that can cause me this much agony and irritation, I should have signed up for YEARS ago. As a wise old gent, once asked me while putting up fence in East Texas in the middle of Summer in 100 degree weather, "We having fun yet?" At that point all you can do is laugh along, sweat pouring down you and its HOT.

While talking to the insurance adjuster, she kept stating that I sure was in a laughing mode. I just tell her, with the way things go for me, that's all I can do. Laugh it off, don't do me none guud, to be pissed off. She says most people would have been hot and ranting and raving about it all.

On another note, doesn't look like I need Roadside Assistance after all, you know how it always bugs you whether or not you will ever need that service. I don't. Used truck cheaper!

Also, ever since the dealer replaced my ignition switch back to my original one, I have had no electrical gremli and no stalling, or radio hiccups. The idiot battery light stays off and the idle stays where it should. Been a week, I'll give another week of riding before I tell them to replace it.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-05-14 11:44 PM (#10258 - in reply to #9672)
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Posts: 1324
So Cal
Lesser men would be six foot under by now. GO pollo!!!!!
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-06-01 10:55 AM (#11212 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Just to end the drama of the saga! I have bike back and all is well with "My Precious" (quote from Lord of the Rings)! Bike is back under my behind and rolling down the two-laners.

I wound up having to eat the cost of the repair! Insurance said they were unable to find anything wrong or busted, and since it was well below my $500 deductible, I was on my own. I even attempted to make a case of since I was using their service, shouldn't this be something they should cover and not my deductible. While we are at it, they weren't going to pursue the tow company for the $160 it cost me. I like a little Vaseline and a little nibble on the ear lobe just before you jam it to me. No such luck, not even a Crack on the AZZ, screaming whose yer Daddy? Thank you Progressive Insurance and Able's Towing out of Jackson, TN (they suck)!
Tissue please!

My Dealer, FRS Powersports, took it apart and explained to the insurance company, that nothing appeared to be broken, but the panels no longer fit together perfectly. They tried to help me out. But, since nothing was busted or broken, no dice! They fixed it to where the panels fit back together with bodyman magic and shims. Can't tell, so I just gonna ride and wait for the next fun occasion to occur.

They went ahead and replaced the ignition switch and all the locks. No problems, knock on anything that gives you GOOD luck.

Edited by pollolittle 2008-06-01 11:09 AM
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slowburn
Posted 2008-06-02 1:52 PM (#11255 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


New user

Posts: 1
lol, new here, goin between a vision and a hd for tourin, and if this thread is a good cross section of vision riders, count me in!

cheers
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varyder
Posted 2008-06-02 2:21 PM (#11257 - in reply to #11212)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


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Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

Little Chicken I am of the belief you are running on more than just luck. You hang on in there pollo, you hang on in there. I'm going to start another thread and ask a question that brought you to mind. All good...

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pollolittle
Posted 2008-08-12 12:45 PM (#15895 - in reply to #9672)
Subject: Re: Well, boys and girls, laugh on, the tornado never stops!


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
I had to revisit this thread because I am writing up a statement, regarding getting my truck and trailer into the parking lot at work.

slowburn - missed that statement somewhere, but I see you haven't replied to anything else. Well, did you get one?

I just read through the whole thing, again, like I needed to. Dang that was a long day, just reminescing!
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