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Columbia, SC | I don't really want to have to put in all sorts of resistors and whatnot. So I was thinking about maybe putting LED lights in the turn signals up front, and in the trunk lights (which I have converted to turn signals). This will hopefully be MUCH brighter for people to see during the day (I know the trunk lights are not that bright during the day).
If I left the taillights in the V alone, do you think that (A) it will look wierd having halogen down low and really bright turn signals up high? (you'd only see them if I put on my blinkers), and (B) since the V will still be normal halogen lights, do you think it would then avoid the need for resistors?
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Visionary
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | The only way to tell you put LEDs in the back V would be that they come on much quicker than the incandescents that come stock. Depending on the brand and wattage, they may be brighter too. Don't expect the front to be much brighter either. At most, maybe 30-50% brighter. The reasons for going to them are durability and longevity. For the brakelights, it is also for the quicker response. If you have clear front lenses, the LEDs give off a different light color that looks pretty nice IMO, but stock amber lenses will filter the color to look the same as what you have now. Make sure to get LEDs in the same color as the lenses they will shine thru, otherwise you will lose brightness.
Also the front center running lights do not have much room behind them for getting the bulbs in and out. You will need to find a short bulb, no more than 42mm tall. Since you won't be able to fit a real bright bulb there, get a 3156 bulb for that so that it will be at full brightness all the time.
There is some debate on whether saving wattage makes any difference on the Victory bikes. A car alternator only works as hard as needed to supply the demand, but on some bikes, the alternator maintains full amperage all the time and bleeds the excess power to ground. I have not been able to find out what type Victory uses. I have seen info that states a full load on a bike alternator reduces power by 1 horsepower and could rob you of up to 2 MPG.
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| Nozzledog
There is some debate on whether saving wattage makes any difference on the Victory bikes. A car alternator only works as hard as needed to supply the demand, but on some bikes, the alternator maintains full amperage all the time and bleeds the excess power to ground. I have not been able to find out what type Victory uses. I have seen info that states a full load on a bike alternator reduces power by 1 horsepower and could rob you of up to 2 MPG.
I would think that going to LED's world not make a big difference other then there brighter. The stator put voltage in the battery as its need so little signal lights or tail lights can't draw as much as the head light. Maybe over time you will pick up a little gas and a little horse power.
The main reason I would think is the LED's might help people see us better I hope. The cars that have LED's have a different lens color to let the lights shin threw. Our lens are designed for incandescent bulbs |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Did some research... The alternator on the Victory puts out as much power as it can ALL the time and the rectifier dumps any extra wattage not used as heat. LEDs actually make the rectifier work harder. Unless you are pushing the limits of your alternator with accessories, LEDs are not the answer to power savings. They do offer the advantage of longevity, durability and visibility though. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | But your electric bill will go down every month!! LOL |
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| Keep in mind our lens are not designed for LED'S so to really get that bright look that some cars have now is not going to happen.
LED'S will make a difference in hopes that cages will see us I hope |
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Columbia, SC | Saw the answer to my question over Thanksgiving weekend. Turns out a semi had two rear brake lights. The right one was regular bulb, the left one had been replaced with an LED cluster. And when he hit the brakes, the delay looked REALLY bad and awkward between the LED lighting up/turning off and the bulb being slightly behind it.
So I guess as long as I replace the bulbs symmetrically (don't just change ONE turn signal, or one side of my V), it should be fine. I'll do some research and figure out what LED would work best for visibility in the daytime for turn signals.
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | You could replace the bottom ones with LEDs and keep the middle ones incandescent. Then you would get kinda of a'sequenced on' look and the cruise control will still work.
The brightest I found so far are the autoluminations ones. I will sell you mine cheap when the Blinkerz tailight comes out this spring. |
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Columbia, SC | And I'll buy them. Sounds good to me! Didnt think about the sequenced look. I'll try it out. |
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| It is a bright idea to switch to 12v LED bulbs because they are safer to use, they are more durable and aren't made of glass like some traditional bulbs. They don't heat up so you can touch them. It also reduces the risk of fire in your home. |
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| Broderick - 2011-12-06 9:38 PM
It is a bright idea to switch to 12v LED bulbs because they are safer to use, they are more durable and aren't made of glass like some traditional bulbs. They don't heat up so you can touch them. It also reduces the risk of fire in your home.
LED lights is still the best and time will come it will replace bulbs/lamps. LED has many advantages. Nice choice their Cruise. what is now your opinion about it? did it do great? |
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| Arkainzeye - 2011-11-24 2:56 PM
But your electric bill will go down every month!! LOL
No. it will just be FREE. haha
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Pittsburgh, PA | i personally dont think the risk of cruise control issues among others, is worth the expense and hassle.. ive read soooo many posts where people done these cool mods then later ask why their cruise control no longer works, OR works only part of the time... |
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| Why do you ask what we think? Do what you like and what you think is best for you |
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| Saited - 2012-05-29 8:40 PM
Broderick - 2011-12-06 9:38 PM
It is a bright idea to switch to 12v LED bulbs because they are safer to use, they are more durable and aren't made of glass like some traditional bulbs. They don't heat up so you can touch them. It also reduces the risk of fire in your home.
LED lights is still the best and time will come it will replace bulbs/lamps. LED has many advantages. Nice choice their Cruise. what is now your opinion about it? did it do great?
LED without any doubt are advanced to bulbs. They are bright and consume much less power |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Speaking of LED's, what happened to the company that was gonna market a full LED kit for the Vision tail light ??????? |
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Peru, IN | That would be MBW. No word on the tail lights for 2 years. They were supposed to be close to a grand anyway. |
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | MBW ?? Gone with the wind ?????? Is this another good idea that never makes it to production ?? Maybe Kuryakyn should buy the rights to the product OR just make their own for less $$$$$$$. |
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Peru, IN | I've read thread after thread (and watched some vids) of the MBW Vision tail lights. They look absolutely awesome but nobody knows when/if they'll ever be out. Used to be promises. Now, nothing at all. The last thread I read (on one of these Vic boards) said someone finally had an official tester and that the price should end up around $900-$1000. I think that was a few months ago. I don't know if there are quality issues with the bulbs/controllers or if MBW (whoever he/she is) decided there wasn't enough time to make them (over 800 individual LEDS would take a lot of time to mount, I'd think). Could be there was some legal issue with states not allowing some part of the sequencing? Maybe he thought the price wouldn't go over so didn't bother? I don't know. All I know is that they're uber cool, they aren't on his/her website and I'd have to save up for them (which I would). |
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Northern Illinois | I have been interested in the MbW LED setup, but, they dont seem to be available. I sent MbW an email recently and here is the reply:
HI Mark,
The Vision light are not yet available. Some changes are being made, and we hope to have an update for customers within the next few week or so.
We appreciate your patience, and hope you?ll be able to hang on a bit longer. If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Thanks,
Jennifer
MBW Motorcycle Products, Inc.
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Peru, IN | I'll believe it when I see it. When the taillights are on the site and people are actually able to buy them, then it's happened. Until then, it's just more talk. If they happen to finally bring them to market in the next couple of weeks, I'll publicly apologize to MBW. |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | The letter said there would be an update in the next few weeks, not a product in the next few weeks. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Holy cow i forgot all about that MBW company and those lights they were working on.. what has it been now 1.5-2 years?!? |
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Peru, IN | Nozzledog - 2012-12-10 3:43 PM
The letter said there would be an update in the next few weeks, not a product in the next few weeks.
I can hear the announcement now. "We are proud to announce, in an effort to get these super, wonderful, one of a kind tail lights to you as soon as possible, we've decreased the number of LEDs from 800 to 600. We're still finalizing the details. We should have another update by June 2014!".
I understand things get behind and/or problems arise but there should have been updates all along the way if they really want to sell these. updates should have been numerous and regular. Even something like, "We're experiencing difficulty keeping the Gronstad tab mated to the Whosit Twirler." then the next month something else. It would keep potential customers thinking they were really working on it, not putting it on the shelf to collect dust. (I'm not saying they "haven't" been working on it but it's been 2 years with nary a word about them other than a couple video reviews.)
I hope things work out and they end up selling what could be the greatest tail lights since the invention of the wheel. |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The videos I saw for the MBW tail/brake/turn were really kewl. That would be the neatest rear light for a motorcycle ever. I was waiting for it to go into production with definate plans to get one. It's been so long that I ended up getting the Vision-Mod.com instead. I couldn't wait any longer because I carry mountain bikes on a hitch mount rack. The bicycles slightly obstruct the view of the brake lights because the bottom 2 bulbs are so low. Then the middle bulbs go out when the turn signal is activated. For my own safety I could not wait any longer. Besides, Vision-Mod has matching front sequencers. MBW stated on this forum they are not going to offer fronts at this time. Maybe when MBW finally reaches production I will switch to theirs because it looked like it would definately notify the driver behind me of my intentions. |
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Peru, IN | They're losing potential customers by the day. I'd love to have a set but there are still a lot of unanswered questions regarding warranty, longevity, replacement parts, etc. Sorry to say but they need to shit or get off the pot. |
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| I have the 4710 Kury, hooked up for the trunk lights. I added 2, 30 LED strings to the edge of the trunk lid running off the trunk lights. For the "V" I have done the Kansasguardsman mod and have LED bulbs in the lower 4 lights and I left the incandescent bulbs at the top for the factory turn signals. I also put LED Bulbs in the running lights on the front, with incandescent bulbs for the signal lights. By doing it this way, the turn signals are at normal speed, and I didn't need resistors to slow them down. Now when I brake, the trunk lights & LEDs flash 3 times then go solid as the 4 lower lights are solid all the time on braking. My signals work as per factory except when braking, then they flash in sequence from the trunk to the lower ones. Most folks tell me that it looks good and I can be seen clearly.  |
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| sfalexi - 2011-09-14 4:37 PM
I don't really want to have to put in all sorts of resistors and whatnot. So I was thinking about maybe putting LED lights in the turn signals up front, and in the trunk lights (which I have converted to turn signals). This will hopefully be MUCH brighter for people to see during the day (I know the trunk lights are not that bright during the day).
If I left the taillights in the V alone, do you think that (A) it will look wierd having halogen down low and really bright turn signals up high? (you'd only see them if I put on my blinkers), and (B) since the V will still be normal halogen lights, do you think it would then avoid the need for resistors?
Alexi
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| Cuaugh - 2012-12-28 10:28 AM
sfalexi - 2011-09-14 4:37 PM
I don't really want to have to put in all sorts of resistors and whatnot. So I was thinking about maybe putting LED lights in the turn signals up front, and in the trunk lights (which I have converted to turn signals). This will hopefully be MUCH brighter for people to see during the day (I know the trunk lights are not that bright during the day).
If I left the led taillights in the V alone, do you think that (A) it will look wierd having halogen down low and really bright turn signals up high? (you'd only see them if I put on my blinkers), and (B) since the V will still be normal halogen lights, do you think it would then avoid the need for resistors?
Alexi
Have you got led lights of your choice?
Do you have some nice pics of these led lights? |
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | I don't think Alexi is active anymore. |
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