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Fastfred
Posted 2012-03-28 2:26 PM (#110992 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 284
mansfield, MA United States
I think if you get off the left side of the bike to get gas then move the bars to the left when the bike is on the kick stand to access the gas cap door it will eventually start to bend. It happened to me on my 08 Vision and I see it starting to bend on my 2011 vision. It's not from sitting on the bike when the kick stand is down. I have never done that. I can hear and see the kick stand drag when I turn the bars. This is just a guess but the bike is over 900lb's something is going to go.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-03-28 6:29 PM (#111000 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 4278
If you don't mind post some photos please
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opas ride
Posted 2012-03-28 7:56 PM (#111010 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Tourer

Posts: 500
Again, If these issues are for real with the kickstand bending, we need to form a support group and demand that the mother ship (Vic) get involved to investigate if it can indeed happen...I work along side my bike at times cleaning from the ground up to wipe rear wheel etc..I do not want to lie down on the ground or even be near the bike if I know it could fall and hurt me or kill me as the thing is very heavy...I have a lawyer in the family and I will be calling up the people at Polaris if this is a real problem with the strength of the kick-stand...I will also notify the NHSTA with a possible safety complaint if others keep posting they have this issue......I feel it is a very serious issue that needs attention if the facts support these posts........
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-28 9:17 PM (#111014 - in reply to #110992)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

Fastfred - 2012-03-28 3:26 PM I think if you get off the left side of the bike to get gas then move the bars to the left when the bike is on the kick stand to access the gas cap door it will eventually start to bend. It happened to me on my 08 Vision and I see it starting to bend on my 2011 vision. It's not from sitting on the bike when the kick stand is down. I have never done that. I can hear and see the kick stand drag when I turn the bars. This is just a guess but the bike is over 900lb's something is going to go.

I think that has something to do with it, I snapped my kickstand on my old gold wing from moving the handle bars back and forth for some work I was doing. The next I know it was on the ground and the kick broke.  I won't do that with the Vision for that reason. I'm not saying that is what is causing it, but I've had mine now for 4 years, parking it up to 3 to 4 times a day with no problems.  So it's either a defect on some, or the binding from moving the handle bars while on the kick.  I know that it is hard to imagine, but when it happened it on the honda I took notice that may have been the cause.

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tonyj
Posted 2012-03-31 1:52 PM (#111154 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 111
Salina, KS
Started to notice my 09 appeared to be leaning more as well. You can grab the bars and with very little effort it acts like it wants to "Pogo" on the kick stand. I always stand the bike up when boarding btw. Anyway, had the better half hold the bike up while I checked out the stand. I found that it will actually rock outward 1/2" or more with very little pressure at the pivot, almost like the bushing is shot. I have never noticed this before and don't have anything to compare against right now. When extended you can move it perpindicular to the bike....anybody else have this? Maybe this is normal? Going to check out the parts illustration and see what Vic uses at the pivot for a bushing.
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wrk24wheel
Posted 2012-03-31 2:07 PM (#111155 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 45
Ventura County, CA
Problem solved. No more worries of the bike accidentally falling over on me. I never knew just how nice it would be to have a center stand. Neals stand is so compact it keeps everything out of the way. I can't imagine dragging it over anything or even scrapping. However, it is so easy to get it up on the stand that even my wife can do it and she can barely hold the bike up steady. I wish the install was easier, but then again it got me to replace the POS leaky exhaust gaskets. Now the bike is quieter, less backfires and saves a lot of room in the garage.



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SkooterRob
Posted 2012-03-31 5:16 PM (#111165 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 102
Jal NM
I like the center stand very much can you post a link of were you got it from or send me a PM. Thanks in advance.
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King Bagger
Posted 2012-03-31 6:54 PM (#111173 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
Big Sky
If you ground that one out you mite be picking gravel out of your shorts. So easy your wife can do! If only she would have installed it.


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King Bagger
Posted 2012-03-31 7:05 PM (#111174 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 27
Big Sky




Edited by King Bagger 2012-03-31 7:07 PM
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norcan
Posted 2012-03-31 9:39 PM (#111180 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 208
Edmonton Alberta, Canada
30,000 miles, wife climbs on while on the stand, she will sit on it at the coffee shop, I crank the handle bars all the time while it is on the stand, no issues here. I even sometimes step on the left passanger floor board and climb on the bike. I was just looking at mine and see no issues, seems just like new. However I always set bike gently on the side stand, and never drop it on the stand.
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hawaii
Posted 2012-04-01 2:04 PM (#111201 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 104
I have a Centerstand for sale if interested. Mounts with just two bolts. Just give me a offer.
Emery(at sign)Hawaii.rr.com
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Hoofinator
Posted 2013-08-08 1:21 PM (#142705 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


New user

Posts: 1
Lyme, CT
I have a new 2013 Vision Tour, in 2 months and 8,100 miles the kickstand is doing the same thing. it leans over so far its difficult to get it upright! If my girl is on the back and she starts to dismount, the front tire comes off the ground, and it will flip over if i don't hold it. the first time it happened when i was getting gas and the bike pinned me against the gas pump! Whooah WTF! just called service today, i gotta bring it in asap.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-08-08 7:50 PM (#142730 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 4278
put a straight edge on kick stand and see its bent
don't go by feel
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Street Eagle
Posted 2013-08-08 9:09 PM (#142732 - in reply to #142730)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Iron Butt

Posts: 691
Manchester, CT
My kickstand is definitely bent...2013 with 6500. I thought it was me until the Vic mechanic brought it to my attention and told me this isn't the first one he has seen. I haven't check if it is covered under warranty but it probably is not.

Is there an aftermarket solution out there? ... and no, a center stand isn't an option.
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willtill
Posted 2013-08-09 4:52 AM (#142743 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
When parked for the night, I keep a small piece of 2x4" wood under the kickstand foot; which raises my 2011 Vision out of the left lean and seems to keep more weight off of the kickstand.

I am going to examine it though (the kickstand) and see if anything is amiss with it.

Where can one purchase the centerstand from? Ma Vic? Will it work with the bash plate installed under the the engine's crankcase?
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willtill
Posted 2013-08-09 4:59 AM (#142744 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
Someone had their Victory Vision center stand fail. Read ca95's posts towards the bottom of the below thread:

http://www.thevog.net/forum/thread/388/vision-center-stand/
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willtill
Posted 2013-08-09 10:37 AM (#142750 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
There is no bushing around the bolt that attaches the kickstand to the frame:



My Vision is a 2011; and the kickstand does wobble when extended; due to the excessive play of the bolt as you manipulate the kickstand up and down while it is extended in the "down position". I had though that maybe simply squeezing the kickstand's prongs together slightly in a vice would solve it; but that is not the cuase of this issue.

There needs to be a bushing inserted; otherwise that bolt is going to enlarge the hole that it resides in; or the bolt itself could fail..... (maybe)

Edited by willtill 2013-08-09 10:38 AM
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Harbiejoe
Posted 2013-08-09 4:12 PM (#142763 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 83
Springfield Mo.
Mine is also bent. Doesn't bother me most of the time, but if I run it with less than 1/4 tank of gas while on the sidestand, it will go dead.
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willtill
Posted 2013-08-09 7:26 PM (#142769 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
When I have time; I'll see if I can source a brass bushing for our kickstands. It's really needed.

Why a motorcycle company shortcuts on little things like this; we'll never know...
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ghostssx
Posted 2013-08-09 10:36 PM (#142776 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 156
Bluff Park, Alabama - God's Country! 2011 PW VV
2011 VV. I had mine replaced under warranty and the new one is bent as well. just over 10k now. Had pics but lost on old phone. A bushing may be what we need! Will watch this thread willtill. Tnx
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Banjodan
Posted 2013-08-12 12:17 PM (#142866 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Cruiser

Posts: 209
my large wife gets on with the stand down....no problems yet...and after lowering bike 1" I heated and bent kickstand to get more lean.... maybe there was a bad run of cheap steel...or maybe made in whonoswhere...

Edited by Banjodan 2013-08-12 12:32 PM
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jimtom
Posted 2013-08-12 12:55 PM (#142867 - in reply to #142866)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
mine is bent too. I noticed this past week. Bike leans way too much. can be a bear to right
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jimtom
Posted 2013-08-12 1:10 PM (#142872 - in reply to #142867)
Subject: Re: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
you know what I just thought about? While in Custer State Park looking at Buffalo, a guy dropped his harley on my vision on the high side . Pretty good lick. I wonder if that could have done it? You know what else I thought about while looking at Buffalo? Our Vision looks kinda like a buffalo , majestic, powerful but not just in those attributes but visually Anyone know what a right body panel and the right half of the plain chin spoiler costs?
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EDRadandt
Posted 2013-08-13 11:59 AM (#142918 - in reply to #110173)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


New user

Posts: 1
I had a kick stand bend. Narrowed it down to trailering bike on side stand strapped down to sturgis
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jimtom
Posted 2013-08-13 12:04 PM (#142919 - in reply to #142918)
Subject: RE: 2011 Vision Bent Kickstand


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
I don't trailer but I see where that could be a cause for those that do
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