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Posts: 447 Northeastern Penna. | With 9000 miles on the Vision, my rear tire still has a few thousand left. I'm not excited about the stock Dunlop E3's. My guess is,the general consensus is the same, right ? I checked into the Bridgetone Excedras, but didn't see the size 180/60r-16 that is on bike now. Those that have replaced their rear tires, what's the verdict on relacement tires ? |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | personally I'm very satisfied with my E3s, but I'm an odd guy to start with. |
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Tourer
Posts: 311 Atlanta Area | You need to buy the Excedra's that are Goldwing specific. Same exact size as the tires you have now. Search this forum for the part numbers. There is a night and day difference (for the better) with the Stones. I just sold my 08 Vision with Bridgestones and purchased a new Ness Vision with the stock E3s and I am hating life again... The Dunlops are WAY greasy compared to the Stones. I am losing rear traction now coming out of tight sweepers that I motored right through with the Bridgestones with 18 less horsepower and 8 less ft lbs of torque....
Edited by 1atom12 2010-04-08 7:18 PM
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Visionary
Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | I also went back with the Dunlop E3's. Victory went with the tires originally designed for the GL1800 Goldwing. In the Goldwing community, the favorites seem to be the Dunlop E3's, the Avon Cobra's, and the Metzler ME880's. Several outfits sell tire pairs of these brands at pretty good prices. My last issue of Rider has a Donelson Cycles (St. Louis, Mo) ad with E3's for 319.90, Cobra's for 354.90, and ME880's for 344.90. Prices are for pairs and include shipping.
My dealer pretty much matched these prices, at my request, and charged me $330 for a pair of E3's mounted.
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Tourer
Posts: 311 Atlanta Area | Found the part numbers:
Bridgestone Excedra G704/G709 |
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Tourer
Posts: 447 Northeastern Penna. | Thanks for the part # By the way, My neighbor riding buddy who also has an 08 Vision with about the same mileage as I, showed me his rear tire this evening.He doesn't check with this site regularly, (don't know why).Anyway, his tire is beyond bald,with the cord showing through on the left edge of the tire.We just got back from a 600 mile trip last weekend and he wasn't aware of the tires condition while riding. Apparently, he doesn't give his bike a pre-trip check! It's interesting how
there is such a difference in tire life among riders with the same tire,different riding habits will do it. |
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Posts: 64 Hot Springs Village, Arkansas | I have had very good results with the Avon Cobra's in the past and will put these on the Vision when due. I understand Avon has a near rear tire (Cobra) with a higher weight rating to meet or exceed the Dunflops. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 33 Attleboro, MA | Avon Rebate
COBRA / VENOM REBATE CLAIM FORM
Consumers who purchase Avon Cobra, Venom, or Venom-R tires from April 1st - May 31st, 2010 will be eligible for a mail-in rebate for an Avon Tyres MasterCard Gift Card as follows:
* Cobra - $25 Gift Card per tire up to two tires
*Venom - $25 Gift Card per tire up to two tires
*Venom-R - $25 Gift Card per tire up to two tires
http://www.avonmoto.com/AvonRebateClaimForm.pdf |
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Visionary
Posts: 1436
| BigAl, I have the Avon Cobra's on my Vision. They are actually rated just a couple pounds LOWER than the Dunlop E3 for the rear. It is such a small amount lower it isn't an issue for the Vision even loaded, two up and towing a trailer. So far they handle much better than the E3, no center strip on the front tire and wear resistnce seems to be pretty good. I'll keep folks posted at what mileage I hit replacement depth. One MINOR thing you will notice if you go with the Avons; You will feel the front tire tread at close to stop speed. A very slight shimmy due to the tread pattern. On the plus side it handles road checkering and metal grating much better at speed. The slow speed (just about stopped speed) shimmy isn't really a issue but I can feel it so I figure it should be mentioned. If you look at the tread pattern you'll see why. |
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Tourer
Posts: 329 scotts valley, California | My first set of E3's on my Vision gave me 16,300 miles. The air was kind of showing through on the rear one, but that is about double what I used to get with my Harley. The second set looks like it will make it about 15-16k miles also. No serious complaints here, but 40-50k miles with a car tire on the back sure has me tempted. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1117 Northeast Ohio | I have a set of exedras in our size with 700 miles on them I'll see you for $200. |
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Posts: 1436
| ScoreBo, did you not like them? Just curious of folks opinions, (likes & dislikes). |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1117 Northeast Ohio | Loved them. I just wish they were load rated at 80. I hate the Dunlops with the corning whine, but that is all we have if riding heavy on 2-up.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5409&pos...
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5534&pos...
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Visionary
Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | I hit 30,000 miles today. Noticed by back tire is toast. I should have known since I haven't had a secure feeling in hard turns. It figures, I have finally got my belt alaignment perfect, now I have to mess with it again. Not only that, I leave on a trip Monday and return on the 16th. The 18th I plan on riding up to Deal's Gap. The guys at cyclegear ordered me a tire today. It will be waiting when I get back. They mount and balance for free, I just have to take it off the bike. That will give me a half a day to put it back on and get the belt right again. I figure no matter how much of a pain, it's not worth a flat, or worse, getting bit by the dragon. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | B.f. Goodrich A/T |
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Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | Not sure if I'm ready for a car tire. My Marauder comes stock with BFG G-force. Great tire. The only problem is they made a special size just for the Mercury rear. It's BFGs or go to another size. Last time I needed tires they were on national backorder. Went down a size and went with Kuhmo. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 256
| I ran the Metzler 880's on my BMW LT and was very pleased. The Avons for the LT's had the same issue as described above. I think when it comes time I'll look Metzler 880 for the front and a car tire on the rear. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 44
| I am running the Metzler 880's and love them. My wife ride's so I am never 2 up and not worried about the load rating. |
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Tourer
Posts: 394 Tucson, AZ | Yea, go dark side. |
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Tourer
Posts: 329 scotts valley, California | I'm about ready for second set of tires too. What was the car tire size that works well on the Vision? Are they OK for three digit speeds? Also I remember an oil filter mentioned on this site that works on the Vision.
anyone know those numbers? |
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Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | I use a Bosch 3323 filter. I can get it at the local AutoZone. |
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Tourer
Posts: 388 Salisbury, NC | cw1115 - 2010-08-27 5:19 PM I hit 30,000 miles today. Noticed by back tire is toast. I should have known since I haven't had a secure feeling in hard turns. It figures, I have finally got my belt alaignment perfect, now I have to mess with it again. Not only that, I leave on a trip Monday and return on the 16th. The 18th I plan on riding up to Deal's Gap. The guys at cyclegear ordered me a tire today. It will be waiting when I get back. They mount and balance for free, I just have to take it off the bike. That will give me a half a day to put it back on and get the belt right again. I figure no matter how much of a pain, it's not worth a flat, or worse, getting bit by the dragon. If you just take the axel out, you should not have to change the adjustment on the belt. ET |
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Posts: 50 hudson, IL United States | i live in flat land illinois. just noticed after 8,800 miles or riding to work and home my tires are flat in the middle. i ride 10 miles to work and turn 4 times. most of my riding i dont have to lean at all. for my next set of tires i think it might be better to go dark side. maybe i would at least get more miles out of the rear that way without it going flat. what are your thoughts? |
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Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | Thanks etspastimes. That's what I'm hoping. Ever since I had the pully powdercoated it had to be dead on or it chirps. I have had it perfect and when I tighten the axel bolt it throws it off just a tad. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 258 Akron, Ohio | 195/55/16 is the rear tire size cross to the dark side. |
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Tourer
Posts: 388 Salisbury, NC | Michael, I put a couple of sharpie dots on the swingarm and keep it there when I tighten everything up. Then wipe them off when done. ET |
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Cruiser
Posts: 256
| I want to go darkside but want a WW on both sides. Any recommendations?
Edited by Prime Power 2010-08-29 11:45 AM
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Posts: 101 Cold Lake Alberta Canada | I have a darkside tire on my 2008 Vision and have no problems. I will say that cornering is a tiny bit more work but nothing to worry about. I run a Brigestone Poenza G109 195 55R 16. It fits well and has not rubbed regardless of the shock pressure, one or two up. The tire is at 32 psi and it feels great. The ride is pillowy soft, the performance in the rain is fantasitc and braking is like throwing out an anchor. I have ridden the prairies and the mountains without an issue. The best advice is to do a bunch of research on the various Darkside web sites, and talk to people that have done it in the past. It is not for everyone and I have met a bunch of those guys, and thats cool. I like it and a buddy of mine has a ton of miles on the dark side without issue. I like the part where if you go on a long trip you dont have to worry about a tire to come home on.the cost of the tire helps as well the car tires are generally way less than a bike tire, and last a bunch longer. Check the web sites and find the recomended tires and the non recomended tires there is a pile of info out there.
For me on a touring bike the darkside is the only way to go.
Good luck and good riding whichever way you decide.
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