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Puddle Jumper
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Puddle Jumper
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Brighton, MI | Count me in also, ( Do we know if they ever plan on coming out with LED assemblies for the visions simular to the vagas??)
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | While we're at it, could the trunk running lights be made to blink as the fourth light in the sequence in the turn signal mode, and light up as brake lights also?
Ronnie |
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Cruiser
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Aubrey, TX | this still cookin? |
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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | I am still interested. Good winter time install project. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 849
, FL United States | V spot - 2009-10-08 5:08 PM
I am still interested. Good winter time install project.
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Cruiser
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rhode island | OK Chandler Tom,
It's show time! 
Edited by sandman 2009-10-09 3:32 PM
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Cruiser
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Stockton, Ca. | Sounds good, When will it be available? |
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Cruiser
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Rapid City, SD | The Cougar tail lights were cool but if you asked about the LED conversion similar to the new Jackpot tails then I would be all over that. Mildly interested in this. More interested in a complete LED conversion. Do I have money for either, probably not. LoL |
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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | So, I was planning on doing the middle brake mod and the Kuryakyn module mod this winter. If I do all that will I still be able to do the Cougar mod if it ever comes along? |
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Cruiser
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Lavon, TX | I am working on a how-to set of instructions; I took lots of pics during my install.
Here's an overview of what is entailed.
It is NOT for the faint of heart - basically, you have to re-wire the signal/brakes (including adding a signal feed to the inner front sockets).
The Vision has qty10 3157 (two front and three back per side) main signal/turn bulbs, along with qty3 194 bulbs (two in the trunk and a license lamp). It is factory wired such that, for the front, only the outer bulbs are used for signalling, and, for the back, only the top bulb is used for signalling and the bottom bulb is used for braking. The middle bulb will turn off if you are signalling; otherwise, it is an additional brake lamp.
For LEDs, I purchased from eBay qty5 pair of V-LEDS HID WHITE 60 M-SMT GM DRL BULBS 3157 3156 VS, at $50/pair. These have qty60 surface mount high intensity leds, and are specifically designed to handle fluctuating and spiking voltage.
I purchased qty2 pair of V-LEDS WHITE 194 13 LED LIGHT BULBS 158 168 2825 VS, at $15/pair - one for the license lamp and two for the trunk. I added the Kuryakyn 4710 controller mod ($63), along with its included Kuryakyn 4810 load equalizer.
I added qty5 per side wide-angle red LEDs on the outer edges of my mirrors (whilst I was in that vicinity) for $12 from eBay.
I also bought an LED conversion kit for my BushTec trailer, from BushTec for $99.
For sequencing controllers, I purchased directly from www.webelectricproducts.com item STS-2S for the front (two lamp sequencing) for $49 and item STS-1M5 for the back (three lamp sequencing) for $80.
On the front, move the turn signal feed wire from the outer socket to the inner socket. The red wire of the STS-2S controller is tapped off of the turn signal wire. The black wire of the controller taps off of the ground wire. The white wire of the controller is run to the signal location of the outer socket. Repeat for other side.
The back gets more complicated. On the left side, cut the blue signal wire near the upper socket and add a diode to the signal feed. The socket side of the blue wire is connected to the blue wire of the STS-1M5 controller. Cut the white wire of the middle socket; the socket side is connected to the white wire of the controller. Cut the black/orange grounding wire of the middle socket; the socket side is connected to the ground wire of the bottom socket, along with the black wire of the controller. Splice into the white/red wire, just past the bike's diode, the blue signal wire (with its diode) and the red wire of the controller. In this manner, either the brake or the signal can feed the red wire of the controller - and each has a diode to block any backfeed. Do the same for the other side.
I now have dual sequential front turn signals (along with mirror blinkers), triple sequential (from bottom to top) rear turn signals, and three per side brake lights (as well as turn/brake/tail lights for the trunk).
Outstanding issues:
1) I need to buy another Kuryakyn 4810 load equalizer ($16) in order to slow my blinker sequencing rate some more (the LEDs have virtually no amperage draw on the bike's electrical system).
2) The triple brake light overrides the sequencing blinkers. I am going to take the diode brake feed from each side and run these back through the bike's two relays (the ones that controlled the middle lamps), in order to cancel the brake feed for a given side if its associated signal is also on. This will require separating the relay outputs and bringing an additional wire to the back of the bike - but all of the hardware is already mounted on the bike.
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Visionary
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Brighton, TN | Well, it looks like the young electrical engineer that I was referring to, got lightly motivated, then lost interest quickly. I was trying to help him out by offering a product his education would help him build and help defray some of his college expenses. Apparently, he wasn't THAT interested.
It looks like charbin has a good solution, in all of the conversion and I bet you could get the fourth light on the tour pack to interact, just gotta wire it.
My apologies from my end, it seems rather familiar ground, that I have befell upon. Me thinks, me needs to be infinitely wealthy to either hire a guy/gal to do it for me or it allocates the time to go get trained on what Me needs to do to make it work.
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Cruiser
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West Knoxville TN | Sounds way cool. Could be the mod of choice soon. |
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Cruiser
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Wichita, Kansas | <p>Charbin, Great job!! Take what you've written and make a post in the Vision Tech Reference forum. That will save a lot of hassle later because this will definitely be a popular reference post. Then when you get the writeup done, you can edit the psot and overwrite it with the fancy instructions, add picture, whatever. If you don't put it there, the search engine will lose it in a few months and there will be constant posts about "Has anybody heard of . . . " </p><p>The great thing is, it uses off the shelf parts. A custom design would proably have to be built up, waterproofed, etc.<br /></p><p> Again, great job.</p>
Edited by KansasGuardsman 2009-11-07 4:42 PM
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Visionary
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Memphis | Once Charbin and/or KansasGuardsman gets the details ironed out, I would definitely pay for your time and ride to Texas or Kansas for this mod. I'm ok until you get to the part about back wiring into relays and soldering in diodes. Would love to have this done by one of you pros. Cougar Party anyone? (I mean for the Vision mod. ) |
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Cruiser
Posts: 205
| Cougar party! classic! Somebody has to start the Cougar-n-Cam Party!
Too much!
If it is ever possible in Southern CA, I am there! |
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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | wow...have the bike half torn apart to put a CB/Communicator and the Kuryakyn 4710 in. I might as well do this as well. Can't wait for the official write up with Pixs. Thanks for working on this for all of us. |
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Old School Cougar Tail light, Interested?
