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Tourer
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scotts valley, California | This may be a silly question, but......... Are we talking just the rear tire or both? It seems the alignment at maximum lean angle would remain consistant if both tires were the same. Leaving only the surface area touching the pavement and the coeficient of friction (grip) issues to consider. |
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San Antonio, TX | Just the rear. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Reston, Virginia | I think you would find that the CT handles the twisties, as well as the big slab, just fine. It is just a matter of getting used to the inputs and subtle handling characteristic differences. We have a few twisties in the Commonwealth. Where the CT shines however is on bumpy roads which are prevalent in the downtown DC area...a bit more tread and stability between you and the potholes...and on the big slab where it tracks real well, IMO better than an MC tire. |
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Rockford, IL | Been doing some preliminary research on this....
Safe to assume that the "Run Flat" type tires have a stiffer sidewall? And assume that I should stay away from them? |
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA | If you go to the "riding the darkside" forum, some there are running the run-flat tires. On my RAT bike, I am running a Douglas GT. I have over 2,000 miles on it, and it is a good ride. I went with a very wide tire, and the only problem I have is the tire makes me feel every discontinuity in the road surface, due to its wide contact patch. -----Metalguy |
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Tourer
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Salisbury, NC | Gray rider, You will have to stick with the 195-??-16. I tried the 205/65/16(it is 26.7 tall) , but there was not enough room between the axle and the front of the swingarm. It lacked a inch to fitting. So I'm going with the 195/55/16 at 24.6 tall. ET |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | etspastimes - 2009-09-17 9:34 PM
Gray rider, You will have to stick with the 195-??-16. I tried the 205/65/16(it is 26.7 tall) , but there was not enough room between the axle and the front of the swingarm. It lacked a inch to fitting. So I'm going with the 195/55/16 at 24.6 tall. ET
Have you looked at a 205-50-16. Should have about the same roll out as the 195-55 |
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Tourer
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Salisbury, NC | Kevinx, I have already ordered the 195. But I will check on it anyway. I still need to get with you to install my cams. I will be going to Homestead sometime in Nov., I will give you a call before I leave to see what your schedule is at that time. ET |
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Tucson, AZ | Thanks for the info. I was hoping to be able to use the the 205, but alas I guess not. I'm still getting a lot more rubber on the road than with the 180. |
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Cruiser
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Barefoot Bay, FL United States | What about the front tire? HD is doing some strange things with their "Fat" fronts, and I am wondering if the aren't bordering on touching the 'dark' side just a teeny bit with their front tires.
HEY....Chrome IS a color!!! |
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Tourer
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Salisbury, NC | I've been thinking about that also. I'm going to stick with the stock tire at this time, but will be checking out the fat front tire for the next time I replace the front. I also have some pictures I'll be posting later today of the rear. I'm not too sure if a 50 will have room in the front of the swingarm because the 55 is a tight fit. ET
Edited by etspastimes 2009-09-19 9:26 AM
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Visionary
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Sand Rock, AL United States | Wizard523 - 2009-08-12 9:55 AM
jimtom - 2009-08-12 7:26 AM
It's not "a very few dollars" It's several hundred dollars , especially when you factor in the single purchase of the most affordable mentioned DS examples are $81-$85 as opposed to 2 or 3 motorcycle tires one would have to purchase to equal the miles on one car tire. I can't speak for performance compromise on the Vision but the difference was negligible on my 2004 Honda Magna
Its a bit like buying a hi definition, big screen plasma TV, then watching video tapes through a coax cable to save money. Why make the investment in a performance product the first place? You say the performance difference was negligible, but I would be shocked if you made that same statement after riding 100 miles of canyon roads (if you survived!).
But like I said, to each his own.
I did the dragon on it twice and made several trips into the North Georgia mountains (Dahlonega,Suches,Helen,etc) with a passenger. Handled fine. Took the money I saved and bought a condo
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Tacoma, WA | that's funny right there! |
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Salisbury, NC | Here are the pics of t he tire installed. http://imageevent.com/etspastimes/rosiescartireinstalledYou can see what I mean about a tight fit. I guess you will have to copy and paste? ET
Edited by etspastimes 2009-09-19 12:50 PM
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Jacksonville Florida | I went to the DARK SIDE on my Vision. Installed the Run Flat 195-55-16. The bike tracks better to me and I can't tell any difference in cornering speed. Seemed pretty comfortable to me. For the nay sayer that was worried about the tire coming off the rim when cornering, FORGET ABOUT IT. It took 120 PSI of line pressure to get this tire over the safety bead on the rim. Had three riders at the Polaris of Gainsville bike show this weekend say they were going to go DARK. Try it you will like it. But if you have not tried it you aren't qualified to comment. |
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Cruiser
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| Anyone find out about insurance or warranty repercussions. |
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Visionary
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| Prime Power, there aren't any. The bike calls for a tire of radial design that fits the specified rim width. Nowhere is there anything written that could void the warranty, nor could an insurer deny a claim based on the tire used.
I would NOT recommend the use of a DS tire for anyone but there aren't any reasons why you shouldn't. I personally prefer the feel of my bike tires, but there wasn't anything wrong with the DS tire. It was definitely more stable in a straight line with no noticeable loss of cornering ability. |
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Visionary
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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Finaly rode a DS Vision today, and while I have ridden other bikes with car tires. I was not impressed with this aplication. To me the bike felt like it had the chassis flex of an old HD in trnsition. |
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Jacksonville Florida | I never have rode an old H.D or a new H.D for that matter but the big tire has to be played with to find the sweet spot because of the stiff side wall. I found it helps on my bike to run the tire at 30 PSI and then play with the preload on the shock. You know on the Cup Cars 1 PSI changes the spring rate 50 LBS. To bad Victory doesn't get rid of this Chicken #*%# shock and give us something more 21 st century. Just my thought. |
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