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Iron Butt
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Central New York | Have my bike in the shop. Have noticed some erratic behavior at slow speeds when turning, kind of a wobble or sidestep type of thing. Also have started to notice a harder ride than usual at speed, 55ish, over like expansion cracks etc. Almost feels like a solid frame. After checking and and trying different pressures in the shock and tires to no avail I jacked it up and did the bar thing under each wheel. Front, no play. Rear, the wheel goes up and down about a half inch, loosely. Took off the seat and bared the rear wheel and the top shock mount has about 1/4 inch play, up and down, on the center (frame) pivot. Took it to the dealer, took off the seat and showed them what I saw. They jacked up another 08 vision and the rear wheel had the same up/down movement, so they deduced that this is normal. Question: Has anyone seen this play and is it normal? The rocker has needle bearings so this should be the pivot. Each end of the pin is in the frame and has lock pin/bolts. I would assume this should be a tight fit and not have up/down play. My gut tells me that something in the shock has gone amiss and pounded the aluminum frame bores into a oval. I left the bike in the shop until I am comfortable with an explanation, so time is of importance.
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Tourer
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Troy, NY | Is your seat all the way on? I know that sounds like a dumb question, but my bike was feeling wobbly around turns. It was because the back part of the seat wasn't in it's hook thing in the back. This might explain the wobble but not the harder ride. Did you check to make sure the air nossel for the rear shock does not have a minor leak or something?
Where in central ny are ya....I'm an upstater myself. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | top shock mount - forwards and backwards, yes, normal, up and down, no, problem. Check air pressure in tires first, sorry if you have but you didn't mention it. Don't know what you mean that the rear wheel goes up and down loosely - that don't sound normal. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | Yes - checked tire pressure. What I mean by wheel goes up and down loosely is; bike on frame jack and rear wheel hanging, put a bar under wheel and pry up, wheel freely goes up about 1/2 inch with no resistance before engaging suspension. A feeling like you would get if you were prying up on a trailer tongue with a loose hitch coupling.
Yes - there is front to rear movement on the shock rocker arm, Wes - the whole rocker arm moves up and down with the shock and link.
Just seems odd that it would be loose enough to move up and down, yet the manual says DRIVE it out to remove rocker arm. |
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Visionary
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| I would say bad shock. If put a bar under the tire and it moves makes me think shock is bad it shouldn't move. Check the shock for fluid leaks. Pull the dust bot down and run your hand on the shat and see if its wet. If you pull the seat and put a bar under the tire the link bar goes up and the shock should go down. Simple as that. Think of your car if you jack it up and put a rod under the tire you would pushing up on the shock. Or pull the shock and hold it straight up and down and see if you can movie it. Never hold a shock side ways cause the fluid doesn't go threw the valves and its easy to move so car dealers sell you something you don't need.
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Puddle Jumper
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Southern Maine | Hey glighto11 I found the same play in my rear suspension when trying to find a reason for cupping of the rear tire. With the rear wheel off the ground and hanging it would move up more than 1/2" before all the play was taken up, mine was caused by the suspension pivot pin moving in the frame. My dealer contacted Victory about it and their reply was normal condition. I still wonder why a bike with the level of engineering in the vision has such a crude suspension pivot system. Having said that I must also say the amount of play has not changed or caused any problems in the 17,000 miles since I noticed it. The only time my bike showed the symptoms you described it was tire or road conditions. After the second Dunlop cupped I went darkside and no more cupping. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I'm going to check that out again tomorrow, never notice that before. And you need to drive it out with a rod, as it says in the book to leave the driver in place until your are ready to move the chock over and remove. There's utility in the "driving"... |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | Victory put 300,000 miles on the rear suspension during testing of the Vision. There maybe a failure, but that would be an exception. In talking to the Victory engineers this year at the AVR about this exact thing, I now believe it is not a suspenion issue. I believe it is all the tires. The more the E-3 wears, the more vibration, slap, slow speed wobble, noise. lack of smooth ride, happens. Put a new rear tire on and see what you think. Put a new tire on the front and the back...you'll think your on a new bike. |
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Rear Suspension Question - Urgent
