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varyder
Posted 2012-03-09 2:05 PM (#109624)
Subject: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm changing my oil and putting in the stock elixar of 20w40 Victory and using a Wix filter.  Shazam, I'm hoping that it will resolve the precieved clutch slippage for a few more mile.  I've run full syn long-enough to discern any real difference.  Sorry for starting another oil thread, thusly named, inappropriate behavior.
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handyhiker
Posted 2012-03-09 2:24 PM (#109627 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Cruiser

Posts: 258
Akron, Ohio
It will be interesting to see what you think of the factory stuff after running the synthetic. Especially after a few miles.
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radioteacher
Posted 2012-03-09 2:45 PM (#109630 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Bye kitty......
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RhodeTrip
Posted 2012-03-09 4:03 PM (#109636 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Cruiser

Posts: 185
Rhode Island
Is this like an oil anonymous thread? My name is varyder and I have an oil problem.

Jim
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handyhiker
Posted 2012-03-09 4:08 PM (#109637 - in reply to #109636)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Cruiser

Posts: 258
Akron, Ohio
RhodeTrip - 2012-03-09 5:03 PM

Is this like an oil anonymous thread? My name is varyder and I have an oil problem.

Jim


ROFLMAO
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radioteacher
Posted 2012-03-09 4:41 PM (#109641 - in reply to #109636)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
RhodeTrip - 2012-03-09 4:03 PM

My name is varyder and I have an oil problem.

Jim


Hellooooo VARydeRRrr!
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-09 5:14 PM (#109645 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
yes, I need help, will you all be my friend? I took 'er for a spin, and the preception is that it is tighter. It was starting to feel a little 'rounded' on a take off and on a hard roll on at speed. The tach just didn't quit seem to match the movement in my mind. So, if the clutch is close to the end of its life I was hoping the dino of the Vic oil would make it stickier. It seems to be so. But you know what they say "Perception is 9/10th of it all" or something like that...

Edited by varyder 2012-03-09 5:15 PM
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kris1956
Posted 2012-03-10 5:52 AM (#109681 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Iron Butt

Posts: 1109
I wish I could help, I've only replaced one clutch and that was a 100k plus wing. It left no doubt that it had to be replaced.
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rainryder
Posted 2012-03-12 4:22 PM (#109883 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I dropped 20 pounds-clutch miraculously healed!
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donetracey
Posted 2012-03-12 6:07 PM (#109889 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

OH BOY! YOWIE! Thanks, Chris - I needed this. My Dealer puts something in my VV - I know this because I pay for it - a lot. Whatever it is, I like it, the bike likes it, the dealer likes it. So I see no reason to change whatever it is. Just my $ .02

.... and you 'had me' with the thread title: Inappropriate behavior

 



Edited by donetracey 2012-03-12 6:10 PM
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Gray rider
Posted 2012-03-12 6:20 PM (#109891 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: RE: Inappropriate behavior


Tourer

Posts: 394
Tucson, AZ
Do not if this is could be another option or not, but I had a problem with my clutch slipping with only 25k miles on the bike. It was so bad I had to have it towed to a dealer. Come to find out that grit had built up around the clutch lever not allowing the lever to release all the way out. After a good cleaning, good as new. After 23 years of riding I had never had anything like that happen before. Just a thought.
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-12 8:16 PM (#109906 - in reply to #109889)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
donetracey - 2012-03-12 7:07 PM

OH BOY! YOWIE! Thanks, Chris - I needed this. My Dealer puts something in my VV - I know this because I pay for it - a lot. Whatever it is, I like it, the bike likes it, the dealer likes it. So I see no reason to change whatever it is. Just my $ .02

.... and you 'had me' with the thread title: Inappropriate behavior

 

I'm with you Don, so far I'm happy with the mother oil and hope it can extend the life of the clutch.  I can't say the dealer is happy because I change my own oil.

 



Edited by varyder 2012-03-12 8:17 PM
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pollolittle
Posted 2012-03-12 8:27 PM (#109910 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Just think how many more miles you could have gotten if you had stuck with the homogeneous, diametrically opposing force of the GREAT OIL
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-12 8:32 PM (#109911 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm inclined to think that the slippage is precieved more than it is actual. If it is slipping, it is at the very edge of begining to slip. I won't go as far as to say that having used the homegeneous elixar that it would have made a major difference. I'm banking on the stickiness of the dino oil to give me another mile. The moment I know she's really going I'm placing my order.
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Vinner1
Posted 2012-03-12 8:32 PM (#109912 - in reply to #109910)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
pollolittle - 2012-03-12 7:27 PM

Just think how many more miles you could have gotten if you had stuck with the homogeneous, diametrically opposing force of the GREAT OIL



AND THEN THE FIGHT BROKE OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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BBQWIZ
Posted 2012-03-13 6:41 AM (#109926 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Cruiser

Posts: 104
ROCHESTER,NY
Ok everyone excuse me for my ignorance,but I thought that after using FULL SYNTHETIC OIL, Going back to REGULAR OIL was a no-no??????? I believe, I was told that the combination of the two would create a nasty,sludge. I have seen this in a Dump Truck, tranny. I saw this very thick sludge, that was in the tranny,and was told it was a result of REG. OIL being used, with FULL SYN. OIL.
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-13 10:09 AM (#109936 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Hmm, so what makes semi-synthetic, a blend of Dino and synthetic any different?
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glighto11
Posted 2012-03-13 10:18 AM (#109937 - in reply to #109911)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York

varyder - 2012-03-12 9:32 PM I'm inclined to think that the slippage is precieved more than it is actual. If it is slipping, it is at the very edge of begining to slip. I won't go as far as to say that having used the homegeneous elixar that it would have made a major difference. I'm banking on the stickiness of the dino oil to give me another mile. The moment I know she's really going I'm placing my order.

I feel like a dude that has his two favorite teams in the Super Bowl. On one hand I am?rutting for more miles on your Vision. On the other hand, I love my blue jug!?

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jimtom
Posted 2012-03-13 10:21 AM (#109938 - in reply to #109936)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
over 125,000 miles on the 99 using only victory oil. Clutch still good.
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varyder
Posted 2012-03-13 10:49 AM (#109943 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
JT - I learn from application, if I was able to go back, I can't say I would have done it differently, but there are things I would have done different. I guess the real test will begin, you have only used Vic juice, and I have gone around the block with Vic, AMSOIL and Rotella. I'm not sure how many parades you have done, but I've been in a couple. That alone makes it very painful on the clutch, so it makes me question what is the real cause of the ever so slight precieved slippage. I know it bugs the snot out of some people, but for others it helps paint a picture. City verses highway riding plays on the clutch life as well as rider habits. Other than some spells of very slow moving traffic, a few parades, a rider's safety course, most of my riding has been wide-open. How has your riding been?
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radioteacher
Posted 2012-03-13 2:01 PM (#109957 - in reply to #109624)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Speaking of inappropriate behavior.......

My father was much harder on drive trains than I will ever be. His most famous string of failures was when he courted my mother. In the late 1940's he went through three transmission failures in a little over two weeks. His future mother-in-law had a brother that owned a transmission shop. On the third repair his future uncle-in-law made dad do the repair work himself.

From December to June of 1979 I drove a 1960 fiberglass body dune buggy kit made from two wrecked VW bugs. Then my dad got me (the youngest and most spoiled) a new car at 16 years old. My older siblings were pissed. Yea, I got a four cylinder, 1980 Chevy Citation hatchback with a manual four speed transmission.

Dad made it clear to me that I would have to put the car on blocks for a month if I burned the clutch up in the first 10,000 miles. I am not sure where he thought I was going to get that kind power from. Years later at 65,000 miles it needed a new clutch. I had to ask Dad, "Do I have to put it on blocks?" He just shook his head and said "no" and we put it on a trailer to get it to the repair shop. At least he did not make me fix it.

Ride Safe

Edited by radioteacher 2012-03-13 2:02 PM
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Moose381
Posted 2012-03-13 6:45 PM (#109976 - in reply to #109937)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 49
Lillian, Alabama
glighto11 - 2012-03-13 10:18 AM

On one hand I am?rutting for more miles on your Vision.



Ummmmmmmm, do you have video of that?
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jimtom
Posted 2012-03-14 5:32 AM (#110020 - in reply to #109943)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate behavior


Visionary

Posts: 1308
Sand Rock, AL United States
varyder - 2012-03-13 9:49 AM

JT - I learn from application, if I was able to go back, I can't say I would have done it differently, but there are things I would have done different. I guess the real test will begin, you have only used Vic juice, and I have gone around the block with Vic, AMSOIL and Rotella. I'm not sure how many parades you have done, but I've been in a couple. That alone makes it very painful on the clutch, so it makes me question what is the real cause of the ever so slight precieved slippage. I know it bugs the snot out of some people, but for others it helps paint a picture. City verses highway riding plays on the clutch life as well as rider habits. Other than some spells of very slow moving traffic, a few parades, a rider's safety course, most of my riding has been wide-open. How has your riding been?


Most of mine are easy miles. By that, I mean freeway commute miles. 55 miles a day round trip at at about 80mph. I don't normally go through the gears hard at her mileage. I did occasionally when she was younger . My recreational miles are mostly interstate miles when it's destination Daytona (which I am leaving tomorrow for) or Sturgis. Throw in some casual mountain riding two up and pulling a trailer for a Helen Georgia trip or two up on the dragon. I try to avoid the congestion of downtown Sturgis. It makes me nervous for her to sit still running very long and feeling the heat build. I will cruise mainstreet Daytona a couple times. I won't put her in a parade at this stage of mileage ( I have never been in a parade on this bike). I have a mileage goal of 200,000+ so I'm trying to be cautious to get there with no real mechanical issues. I have made a covenant with myself that if I can reach my goal, I will treat myself to a new Vision. I don't know if I can wait that long but I have to wait for now anyway because the finances are not in line with my dreams.
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