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theogre1969
Posted 2012-10-04 1:10 PM (#124661)
Subject: uppers


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 35
Virginia Beach, VA
is there a way to make them tighter? mine seem to move way to easy.
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-10-04 1:16 PM (#124663 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Cruiser

Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
Mine too. I put the same thread but longer screws in them and that helped some but didn't cure the left one for some reason.
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ScoreBo
Posted 2012-10-04 2:17 PM (#124665 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
I just ordered two additional plastic washers for the top of them. I know it'll work as I cut out the bottom of a margarine bowl to make a thicker washer and it holds fine now. Part number for the washer is 5436790. They run about $2 a piece.
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opas ride
Posted 2012-10-04 4:24 PM (#124669 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Tourer

Posts: 500
Thanks also for the advise from ScoreBo....I will order some today as mine keep turning inward at highway speeds......2011 Vogue/Black Vision
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2012-10-04 6:25 PM (#124676 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Keep an eye on them. First they get loose then they fly off
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-10-04 11:44 PM (#124690 - in reply to #124665)
Subject: Re: uppers


Cruiser

Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
ScoreBo - 2012-10-04 2:17 PM

I just ordered two additional plastic washers for the top of them. I know it'll work as I cut out the bottom of a margarine bowl to make a thicker washer and it holds fine now. Part number for the washer is 5436790. They run about $2 a piece.


Where exactly did you put the washers?
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Kelvininin
Posted 2012-10-05 9:55 AM (#124709 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: RE: uppers


Cruiser

Posts: 188
I used electrical tape between the top retaining ring and the plastic slide washer, worked like a charm.

Use blue lock tight on all retaining hardware, that will keep them from taking flight.
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varyder
Posted 2012-10-05 5:21 PM (#124744 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Took mine off, don't even miss them.
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PhantomX
Posted 2012-10-05 7:55 PM (#124750 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Cruiser

Posts: 259
Land O Lakes, FL
I'm still a touch lost as to where you're doing this. is this when you take the lower bolts out and the wing comes off between that and the piece in side the fairing or do you have to do this in the fairing?
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ScoreBo
Posted 2012-10-05 8:27 PM (#124757 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
PhantomX, under the fairing / cowl. You will see a disc with two torx screws on them (the same size as the ones that actually hold the upper deflector to the bike). If you remove those screws, the disc on top will come off and you will see the washer in question. This whole assembly is incredibly simple. Not much to worry about there.

Mine were fine until I replaced the stock plastic with CycleOps metal ones. No biggie, I'll put an additional washer in each side and be good. Mine would only move at 75+ mph.
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ScoreBo
Posted 2012-10-05 8:30 PM (#124759 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: RE: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Part #8 is the washer in question
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2012-10-06 10:23 AM (#124780 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
As the owner of a Vision 8 Ball I have never had uppers. Just what advantage do they give you. What do your uppers do for you??

THANKS.

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Lone Ranger
Posted 2012-10-06 11:32 AM (#124783 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
"Uppers... is there a way to make them tighter? mine seem to move way too easy.

The first thought that came to my mind was Poligrip.
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varyder
Posted 2012-10-06 12:25 PM (#124786 - in reply to #124780)
Subject: Re: uppers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

MaddMAx2u - 2012-10-06 11:23 AM As the owner of a Vision 8 Ball I have never had uppers. Just what advantage do they give you. What do your uppers do for you?? THANKS.

Max, I'll just say having the uppers, and never the lowers, but have ridden a Vision with one, it makes the ride more sterile.  If you are not tolerent to the heat, then the uppers and lowers would do you well.  Also, you can move them to remove even more air flow around you, this is helpful in the cooler weather to create a warm pocket around you, ever so slight, but noticeable.

While I understand the heat issue, and it can get rather intense as you may be aware of, I do not have a problem with it.  I took off the uppers, and at worse, I might get a little wetter in the knees when it is raining.  I think it has actually helped the air flow to make more wind to go by taking the edge of high heat with it.  A bonus to all of this is that I like the looks better without the hangy thingys on such a beautifully styled bike.

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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2012-10-06 4:28 PM (#124800 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
Thanks Chris. If I am hearing you correctly the uppers really didn't make much difference in hot weather. BUt did make things a wee bit better in the cold. Thanks. I keep looking for some kind of louver to put on the bike to enhance lower air flow, as those OME wings look like crap. Again, thanks for the input. I'll save the $$ and add some more chrome or something! LOL
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gilbertma
Posted 2012-10-06 5:26 PM (#124801 - in reply to #124800)
Subject: Re: uppers


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 33
Max, I have an 8-ball too and I added uppers to block some of the air in the winter. I ride to work all year and they will reduce the air turbulence around your arms and body, - this can be nice when the temps are between 40-60 F. It is a pain to install the pivot parts that are in the fairing, the deflector itself just bolts into that from the bottom. A large diameter rubber cylinder gets compressed when the pivot is bolted in and this provides the friction.
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20 10 Vision
Posted 2012-10-10 9:47 AM (#125024 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Tourer

Posts: 430
Like Va - I took my uppers off and never really noticed a difference in application, but the VV sure looks better without them.
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Crawford
Posted 2012-10-10 9:53 AM (#125025 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Tourer

Posts: 340
Regina Saskatchewan Canada
I find that with the uppers turned just slightly out it creates an air swirl around the driver and helps the cooling effect.
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varyder
Posted 2012-10-11 4:25 AM (#125059 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I use to do the same thing and it would work, but without them I really don't give that much though because there is a good air flow. The advantage I see in the uppers is additional rain and wind protection, but not enough to warrant them, for me, that is.
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taz456
Posted 2012-10-11 8:49 AM (#125066 - in reply to #124661)
Subject: Re: uppers


Cruiser

Posts: 219
Pittsburgh, PA
I also ride for the better part of the year. This morning the temp in the burgh was 38 degrees. Those little wings block a lot of the air from below the knee all the way to your waist. When coupled with the lowers it really does keep the weather off of the rider. I can also tell you that the difference is noticable to me as my right upper does move all by itself into the open position (in line with the fairing) and I simply reach down and fix it. How difficult is it to get inside the fairing? I have never had mine apart.
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