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| PhantomX - 2014-01-01 12:11 PM Wow this thread went to hell in a handbasket lol... At the end of the day a lot of us like shit that goes fast, or making something that isn't faster. Me I'm speed junkie, that's why I owned a ZX14 for a few years. But I totally agree with Ronnie's post, even though we graduated to luxo barges we still have the need for speed on occassion, it's never going away neither is the useless and utterly pointless banter arguing what's faster on the internet. Because hey it's still fun regardless... LOL!  I guess that's why we come here, to argue and bitch but it's all fun! As for the speed junkie- guilty as charged; That's why I kept my Concours 14 as a stablemate for the Vision! /r Allen | |||
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| Arkainzeye - 2014-01-01 9:04 AM rdbudd - 2013-12-31 9:53 PM Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 6:23 PM im in my garage right now connecting the Lloyds NOS kit to my craftsman snow blower. The Neighbor next to me thinks his is faster than mine.. I dont care if its only meant to blow snow.. i will NOT have the neighbor with Brand X claim Superiority over my fragile male ego.. Cause what will the other neighbors think knowing that my snow blower is No longer the fastest on the block..?. I can't have this... Come spring, im going to dyno my snow blower to have Proof that mine is better than his! I'll show him !! =) lol You obviously don't "get it". It isn't about fragile male egos, nor about who has the best dyno chart for bragging rights. Neither mean anything. It would be about lining the two snow blowers up and seeing which one cleared a path to the end of the drive first --just for the hell of it. Then, we would have beer together and laugh about it. It's all about fun--not egos. The closer the race, the more fun it is. It doesn't matter who wins. Ronnie you do know i was JOKING about the ego thing right?? lol !! I know that you entered the discussion with the statement of "I'm sorry but I gotta say this--it's silly as hell when a touring motorcycle comparision begins with 1/4 mile numbers and who is faster, etc". Then you went on to compare them to minivans, and insinuated that racing a Vision and a Goldwing would be as silly as racing minivans, and would only be done due to egos. Then you try to compare a couple of guys racing their touring bikes as being equal to two neighbors with ego problems and snow blowers. I get the distinct impression that you think everything is about egos, and that anyone wanting to have fun with their machines has an ego problem. You obviously don't "get it", and probably have an ego problem, since you worry about it so much. To the point of the original question, I've ridden both the Vision and the CCT a fair bit. I also strongly considered getting a CCT for the larger storage capacity. I don't think you could go wrong with either bike, but at the end of the day, we like the Vision better for the wind managment and comfort. Both bikes are equal on power in the stock form. My cammed Vision outruns the stock CCT, especially after 90 - 100 MPH is reached. The CCT "feels quicker" at low speeds, but in side-by-side roll-on testing, really isn't. Having ridden all three (GW, CCT, and Vision), I would say that the CCT would be a close match for the GW in "most" riding situations. The stock rev-limiter of the Victory holds it back when flogging through the gears, forcing "short shifts", and the GW has an advantage because of that. A cammed Victory 106 with an increased rev-limit is more than a match for the GW, even though the GW has 101cc more displacement, 3 times as many cylinders, and 50% more valves. The GW is very, very smooth though, and a fine ride. If I were to ever get a CCT, it would get Lloydz cams and a rev-limit increase too. You never know, might want to pass a minivan. Ronnie | |||
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| rdbudd - 2014-01-02 9:30 AM Arkainzeye - 2014-01-01 9:04 AM rdbudd - 2013-12-31 9:53 PM Arkainzeye - 2013-12-31 6:23 PM im in my garage right now connecting the Lloyds NOS kit to my craftsman snow blower. The Neighbor next to me thinks his is faster than mine.. I dont care if its only meant to blow snow.. i will NOT have the neighbor with Brand X claim Superiority over my fragile male ego.. Cause what will the other neighbors think knowing that my snow blower is No longer the fastest on the block..?. I can't have this... Come spring, im going to dyno my snow blower to have Proof that mine is better than his! I'll show him !! =) lol You obviously don't "get it". It isn't about fragile male egos, nor about who has the best dyno chart for bragging rights. Neither mean anything. It would be about lining the two snow blowers up and seeing which one cleared a path to the end of the drive first --just for the hell of it. Then, we would have beer together and laugh about it. It's all about fun--not egos. The closer the race, the more fun it is. It doesn't matter who wins. Ronnie you do know i was JOKING about the ego thing right?? lol !! I know that you entered the discussion with the statement of "I'm sorry but I gotta say this--it's silly as hell when a touring motorcycle comparision begins with 1/4 mile numbers and who is faster, etc". Then you went on to compare them to minivans, and insinuated that racing a Vision and a Goldwing would be as silly as racing minivans, and would only be done due to egos. Then you try to compare a couple of guys racing their touring bikes as being equal to two neighbors with ego problems and snow blowers. I get the distinct impression that you think everything is about egos, and that anyone wanting to have fun with their machines has an ego problem. You obviously don't "get it", and probably have an ego problem, since you worry about it so much. To the point of the original question, I've ridden both the Vision and the CCT a fair bit. I also strongly considered getting a CCT for the larger storage capacity. I don't think you could go wrong with either bike, but at the end of the day, we like the Vision better for the wind managment and comfort. Both bikes are equal on power in the stock form. My cammed Vision outruns the stock CCT, especially after 90 - 100 MPH is reached. The CCT "feels quicker" at low speeds, but in side-by-side roll-on testing, really isn't. Having ridden all three (GW, CCT, and Vision), I would say that the CCT would be a close match for the GW in "most" riding situations. The stock rev-limiter of the Victory holds it back when flogging through the gears, forcing "short shifts", and the GW has an advantage because of that. A cammed Victory 106 with an increased rev-limit is more than a match for the GW, even though the GW has 101cc more displacement, 3 times as many cylinders, and 50% more valves. The GW is very, very smooth though, and a fine ride. If I were to ever get a CCT, it would get Lloydz cams and a rev-limit increase too. You never know, might want to pass a minivan. Ronnie I think truly the only way to get a feel and understanding is to either do a demo ride and compare the two side by side or take the CCT out for the day. I think with the CCT Victory was trying to appeal to a larger segment of the population that ride by toning down the styling a bit as well as a larger hard bags. I don't know what all of you guys take out on multiple day rides, but for me another pair of pants, couple pair of socks, three Tshirts and I'm good for the week so ample room in the Vision for storage. I like a frame-mounted front fairing and the fully adjustable windshield on the Vision. You can really lean her over and the Vision handles like a bike half the size. Either way, I think you will be happy with either bike. | |||
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