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Lone Ranger
Posted 2009-08-10 10:38 PM (#41326)
Subject: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA

So my wife and I were taking the back roads from Atlanta to Marion, Alabama - about 200 miles - Saturday evening.  Between Clanton and Selma, I checked for a shorter way on the GPS.  Sure enough, there was a way to cut about 15 minutes off my travel time.  Cool beans!

Turned onto a county road and about a half mile later, it turned into a dirt road.  My lovely wife says, "It doesn't look too bad; lets take it."  I love her confidence in me. 

It really wasn't too bad; pretty solid, some rocks and a few washboard and ruts, but pretty navigable.  GPS said it was about three miles long before the next turn.  About a half mile or so (and it had just gotten good and dark) we came down a hill.  At the bottom it looked like a lot of sand had washed onto the road.  No sweat, just ride slower and carefullererer... until the sandy road caved under my back tire and it got pretty squirrelly.  Then PLOOF, the back tire slipped down into the sand and over we go.  I had time to call out about three times that we were going down before we tumped over on the right side.  Thank God for armored jackets and landing in sand.  My wife came out of her seat when we went down and I just rode the bike down.  I like anti-tipovers.

We were fine; I was upset and embarrassed, even though there wasn't a thing I could have done different at that particular time.  We got the bike righted and saw that there was about 30 more yards of sand trap as it began going back up the next hill.  Wife says I should ride it out of the sand and she would follow on foot.  Good idea; I can work better if there is only me to worry about.  About another 20 feet and PLOOF!  I tumped over on my left side when the sand gave way again (equal opportunity for both sets of anti-tipovers, don'tcha know).  No injury; no damage, but the sand was way deeper there and I could only get the bike about halfway up before my feet started sinking deeply in the sand and not allowing me to get a good lift.  Fortunately my wife came over to give some extra oomph and we got it back up.  I rode it out this time, but it was touch and go for a bit.

Hmm.   This ain't good.  I don't know how bad this road is going to be and I KNOW I don't want to turn around and ride through that mess again.  It's another two miles before I'm supposed to turn onto another road and I don't know how many more dirt roads it wants me to go down.  I check the GPS and it says there is another road about a tenth of a mile ahead, up the hill.  The road was pretty rutted here and it was getting hairier to ride, so we decided that I'd ride up to that turn while my wife walked up the hill.  When I got there, I wasn't real thrilled - the road had about a foot and a half of grass growing over it.  It may have been the shortest way out but I had no idea what the conditions were down it.  So when she got up to me, she got back on and we went on a little bit further to an intersection.  Navigation system wanted me to go left to God knows where, but if I turned to the right I could go about three more miles or so and get back to the paved road I had originally been on before I took the "short" cut.  And the road to the right looked more traveled, so we went right.  And I just wanted to get out of there.

Now, picture this - we were wearing leathers, armored coats, gloves, boots, and helmets, and we weren't about to take off our protective gear.  It was about 85 or 90 degrees, in the deep woods with no breeze, and about 95 percent humidity.  Every time my wife got back on the bike, we had to hook up the cord for the intercom.  It was hot and nasty and sweaty.  Her having to trudge up and down hills with a flashlight and my balancing the 900-pound bike on treacherous, rutty, rocky, sandy, steep and hilly terrain made me nervous as a long-tailed cat in a room full of rockers.  We did a lot of on-again, off-again over the next few miles.  It seemed like that dirt road went on forever.  By the time we FINALLY got out of that mess, I was pouring sweat and beginning to get dizzy from heat exhaustion. 

I have never been so happy to see pavement in my life.

We got back on the paved road and about a half mile later passed the county road again where our misadventure began.  Believe me, I didn't go back down it again!

That short cut that was going to save me 15 minutes ended up costing me nearly two hours, a lot of sweat, pride, and angst.  My wife and I decided that dirt roads at night are not the best things to try when the GPS says go there.

At the time it was not my finest moment, but now it is pretty funny in retrospect, so I composed a song about it to the tune of "Gilligan's Island".

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"Just sit right down and you'll hear a tale; a tale of a fateful trip,

Aboard a Vision Premium Tour that looked like a black starship.

The pilot was a mighty biking man; the passenger brave and sure;

They followed a GPS one night on a shortcut detour (a shortcut detour).

The road turned dirt and really rough; the passenger was tossed;

If not for the anti-tipover bars, the Vision would be lost (the Vision would be lost).

Up hills and down the road went on; it seemed like a country mile;

It was treacherous; it was sandy too;

They were holding on for dear life;

The night drew on; but pavement finally replaced the dirt;

When the shortcut grew long!"

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radioteacher
Posted 2009-08-11 2:45 AM (#41334 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I am glad it turned out well. I love the story and the song.

Ride Safe
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pollolittle
Posted 2009-08-11 7:31 AM (#41343 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Visionary

Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Love to hear a good story. One that includes dirt biking is also more fun. That is a story, that will start to sound like a fishing experience getting better with time. I constantly drive on a gravel sand driveway down to my shop. I intentionally riip the throttle a little to get the experience like I am on a dirt bike. Letting the rear end slide out and get squirrely really gets you used to what it would do. I have taken my bike into the ditch at a high rate of speed and brought it back out, still on two wheels. WHAT A RIDE! That sounds like something I would have rode down.
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VisionTex
Posted 2009-08-11 10:49 AM (#41359 - in reply to #41343)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Great story, I can relate to it a little. My wife an I were riding with a friend that has a small farm up in the piney woods of east Texas. A long lane to their farm house does at times have a sand trap. Well made it in ok, but coming out the Vision started this wallow and was sliding to the low side, so when it was almost down I put my foot down and cracked the throttle. The bike jumped up and over to the left tire track. Whew, wife patted me on the shoulder and said..."Good Job". I had to laugh, there was not thought, just reaction.
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trailbarge
Posted 2009-08-11 11:32 AM (#41370 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
I have the opposite story.

Normally, I use maps like any red-blooded American boy raised the right way. However, my bride and strife made me drive on recent trip to New Hampshire (from Eastern NC) to see her family. I was so enthusiastic about the in-laws that I did not plan a damn thing. I just put the address into the GPS and blindly followed...

..right up the friggin I-95 corridor.

I was treated to 9 states plus D.C. I paid $8 to drive in Delaware for about 20 minutes. I paid another $8 to cross the GW bridge in NYC. Total tolls for the trip exceeded $35. Traffic, traffic, traffic.... start and stop all the way Routed through some park in NYC, around the D.C. beltway, over the hills and through the woods in CT. About the only major metropolitan area the stoopid thing actually directed me AROUND was Boston... and we went through downtown Wocester to do it.

Google maps tells me its a 12 1/2 hour drive. We barely made it under 16. oy vey

You got adventurous and paid. I copped an attitude and paid. Guess how stoopid I felt?
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Cometman
Posted 2009-08-11 11:41 AM (#41373 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Tourer

Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA
Reminds me of the time I was riding the 'backway' to Kern River. I had my GPS on my Nomad, but no plug in, so it was running on battery. It led me to a dirt road, on top of a mountain... just then the GPS died. I continued on the dirt road for another 10 miles and it lead me to the pavement.... where the signs led me to our hotel, at sunset.... For now on I always carry maps with me

Tim
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excelboy10
Posted 2009-08-11 5:02 PM (#41384 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: RE: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Birmingham, AL 08 MC Tour Premium 2012 Bronze Mist
LR, I can sympathize with you. I did something similar on our last long trip.
Intentionally telling the GPS to always guide me on the shortest route was what brought it on. I swear it had us going through back yards.
I remember one that had a clothes line in it with all sorts of "personal items" hanging there. Dirt roads, parking lots and even crossing grassy areas between two paved roads to make the connection.
At least our adventure was in broad daylight. I applaud your wife for being so understanding. Either you keep her heavily sedated or she's one in a million.
Needless to say I changed the default setting to quickest and forgot shortest.
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Miles
Posted 2009-08-11 6:43 PM (#41392 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
I have been meaning to do an article about using the GPS... Maybe not in this case, but I know it was awhile, and several "interesting adventures" before I learned about features such as preferred route, vehicle type, avoid (or not) U-Turns, avoid dirt roads etc. etc.. Once that was mastered then using "detour" to let work out "adventures" became... well.. less "adventurous."



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Lone Ranger
Posted 2009-08-12 3:58 PM (#41466 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
Thanks for all the kind replies. The one thing I wish about the GPS is that it would identify dirt/unimproved roads. It just has major, medium, and minor roads in the avoidance setup. Minor could be paved country roads or overgrown dirt roads. You don't know if you don't look at 'em.

Excelboy10: Yep, she's a keeper. We've been married for over 30 years and I think she's one in a million (she's the one who told me to buy the bike). I also keep her sedated (well, actually it's the pain medication for her back problems - I do have to stop to let her stretch every 45-60 minutes or so). We loved your backyard story!

Cometman: That story was priceless! I'm also one who believes in paper maps - it's good to be able to get a good overview of the entire route, since the GPS doesn't necessarily take you the most efficient way if you're going more than 25 or 50 miles or so.

Trailbarge: I feel your pain. I went up through Jersey and Maryland a few years ago in a dually truck towing an RV camper. Those toll roads ate me up. I got charged more for the dually, cause it had 6 wheels, when actually the dually was placing less wear on the road per square inch and I felt it should have gotten me a price break!
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-12 4:21 PM (#41467 - in reply to #41326)
Subject: Re: GPS, shortcuts, and sand traps


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Glad it is all ok and I can relate.

I had a similar, but much smaller sand incident at Daytona this year. Pulled into this little dive bar to meet some of the VMC central FL guys. Parking lot appeared to by paved with a light coat of sand on it. As I was pulling in, the pavement stopped in the middle and I was welcomed by a sandpit. Tried to give it a little gas, but the bike just sank and fell over (less than 5 mph). Only the driver's ego was damaged. Not used to sand up here in Ohio and cringed at your story when I read it. I knew what was about to happen. I rode dirt bikes in the desert when I was younger, but these tanks just sink.

I would love for GPS companies to also include "bad areas / neighborhoods" to avoid. With all the changes happening to our roads, I doubt every county, state or construction company is updating a master database of sorts to help identify these roads and conditions for the GPS companies to use. We would also need to update the thing almost everyday.

I recently purchased a Ford Fusion Hybrid as my work car. It came with Sirius TravelLink (http://www.sirius.com/travellink). I think it is going to be these types of systems that offer realtime conditions over standard GPS systems today that we are looking for. I get gas prices, and weather maps over satellite with this thing. Very cool stuff.
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