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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-04-05 7:17 AM (#83213)
Subject: easy off the kick


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
I got an aerial view of my bike when I came out this morning. Wind came through and blow my bike all the way over past the TOP. Fortunately no visible damage and it had to be on it's side all night since it was dry underneath and we had some strong storms. Rode to work this morning despite the tornado watch.
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pollolittle
Posted 2011-04-05 9:32 AM (#83229 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
ouch!!! Glad to hear in one piece.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-04-05 10:19 AM (#83237 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Crazy thing is I just laughed and shook my head. I started to say, "fine, just lay there all day, I'll drive the jeep" but I finally had a heart and put 'er back on the kick.

I had the cover on 'er but the front blew off the top portion, the side of course was caught under the saddle bag and mirror. I expected 'er to bellow smoke and cough a few times, but surprisingly she never let on that anything happened at all.
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Lone Ranger
Posted 2011-04-05 11:07 AM (#83243 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
Check the fairing behind your mirror.

I went past the TOP once while turning around (got lazy when I came to an embankment in my yard - tried to keep going across the side of it instead of stopping and backing up, lost my nerve and dropped it on its left side). One of the plastic holders inside broke and the back of the fairing behind the mirror wasn't quite as secure anymore - just a little loose.

My wrench at the dealership in Birmingham, AL, used some kind of plastic weld to fix it.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-04-05 11:28 AM (#83244 - in reply to #83243)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Lone Ranger - 2011-04-05 11:07 AM

Check the fairing behind your mirror.

I went past the TOP once while turning around (got lazy when I came to an embankment in my yard - tried to keep going across the side of it instead of stopping and backing up, lost my nerve and dropped it on its left side). One of the plastic holders inside broke and the back of the fairing behind the mirror wasn't quite as secure anymore - just a little loose.

My wrench at the dealership in Birmingham, AL, used some kind of plastic weld to fix it.


Thanks for that tip LR, I'll check it when I get home tonight. Everything seemed fine at the moment and the mirror didn't shake any more than usual. This is actually the second time it's been on the right side, the other time was when I replacing the exhaust on the left side and I had it sitting nearly upright. A nice push up wrenching made it go over rather quick. I had a blanket down, and again, not a scratch and I know that didn't break anything because I looked. This time, I wasn't there to hold it back any so I'm sure it went down quicker. But, what's a guy to do but ride out the frustration and laugh it off.
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glighto11
Posted 2011-04-05 12:02 PM (#83251 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
Just wondering if you have the tour pak on? I have a 'street' and have had it down a couple times onto the TOP's. It seems awful solid at that point and I can't imagine enough force to carry it over past that point. Just wondering to myself if the tour pak adds enough top-side weight to throw it over farther than the TOP.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-04-05 12:15 PM (#83254 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 4278
Down south was hit with some bad storms. I do feel the kick stand on the vision makes the bike sit to straight up. Wish it leaned over a little more then I don't thing you would have a surprise when you eyes are not quite open.
Of coarse if it leaned more then some one would wine it takes more effort to get it up right. Dam if you do Dam if you don't
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rainryder
Posted 2011-04-05 12:56 PM (#83259 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
Makes todays rainstorm seem a little benign by comparison. Maybe a bunker to keep it in is in order...
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2011-04-05 5:33 PM (#83291 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
We had some 60+ mph winds this morning when the front came through Northeast Florida but my Vis stood steady through it all. I should mention that she stands straight up, as I have the center stand made by KingBagger and use it almost every time I park on the concrete pad next to my toy-hauler.

Edited by CoolHandLuke 2011-04-05 5:36 PM
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DannyB
Posted 2011-04-05 6:33 PM (#83295 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 554
2 mi from Jim Beam n KY
I'm glad she's not hurt!!
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Blue Sky Guy
Posted 2011-04-05 7:50 PM (#83299 - in reply to #83251)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Tourer

Posts: 329
scotts valley, California
glighto11,  I DO have the tour pak and have gone over the TOP, but was on a rather steep cross slope and she went down on the low side.  It was just one of those stupid things; I came to a stop on this cross slope and put my foot down, but the ground wasn't there... duh.  It chipped the corner by the left mirror and scratched up the left bag.  I am pretty sure that she would have done the same thing had the tour pak been off.
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SYNSTR
Posted 2011-04-05 8:25 PM (#83305 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
Someone really does need to come up with a longer stand so the bike will lean a bit more towards being stable, the existing stand does keep the bike way too upright. Coupled with the fact that the teeny little heel knob is way too small and out of the way, a 'finger' would be much more positive for engaging the kick and about 5 degrees more of lean would keep it where you put it.

Will @ CYCLE-OPS, you listening buddy?
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-04-05 9:01 PM (#83306 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
I park in a gravel driveway and cover with a full cover. I still have a serious lean but there is a small board to keep the kick from sinking into the gravel. I believe that cover acted as a sail that caused the wind to grab enough to lay it over.
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Travelin Man
Posted 2011-04-05 9:02 PM (#83307 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 721
Actually from my experience now having owned or ridden four different brands of touring motorcycles (Honda Goldwing, Yamaha Venture Royale, Harley-Davidson Ultra Classic, and of course my Vision) I find that the Vision has more lean when on the sidestand than all others, especially the GL1500 and GL1800 Goldwings. I ride with my shock set to 60 psi so perhaps that has added to the lean angle but I have also had it as low as 35 psi and the lean angle didn't seem to change much. Oh, Bill, the stand would have to be shorter to make it lean more, not longer.

BTW, our own HMD520 sells two different shorter sidestands for the Vision at: http://www.hmd520.com/shop/
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Travelin Man
Posted 2011-04-05 9:07 PM (#83308 - in reply to #83306)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 721

Cap'n Nemo - 2011-04-05 9:01 PM I park in a gravel driveway and cover with a full cover. I still have a serious lean but there is a small board to keep the kick from sinking into the gravel. I believe that cover acted as a sail that caused the wind to grab enough to lay it over.

That exact thing has happened to countless touring riders who cover their bikes when on trips.  What I have found helps is to secure the cover under the bike using the grommets they install for a cable lock.

 

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aaronrkelly
Posted 2011-04-06 7:44 AM (#83317 - in reply to #83306)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-04-05 9:01 PM

I park in a gravel driveway and cover with a full cover. I still have a serious lean but there is a small board to keep the kick from sinking into the gravel. I believe that cover acted as a sail that caused the wind to grab enough to lay it over.


Ive seen this same thing with a Kawasaki Ninja......watched the wind catch the cover and drag the bike halfway across the parking lot on its side.

.......one of the reasons I dont put a cover on my bike.

........the other is its made to get wet.
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Fastfred
Posted 2011-04-06 8:37 AM (#83318 - in reply to #83305)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Cruiser

Posts: 284
mansfield, MA United States
SYNSTR - 2011-04-05 8:25 PM

Someone really does need to come up with a longer stand so the bike will lean a bit more towards being stable, the existing stand does keep the bike way too upright. Coupled with the fact that the teeny little heel knob is way too small and out of the way, a 'finger' would be much more positive for engaging the kick and about 5 degrees more of lean would keep it where you put it.

Will @ CYCLE-OPS, you listening buddy?

I had a problem with my old vision. My kick stand was a little bent and the bike leaned over to far. The problem was the oil pump would not build pressure and the bike would make some really bad sounds. It would rap bad. They changed the kick stand and the sound went away. Yesterday we had high winds here in Ma. I just laid the bike on the tipovers and left it there. I figured better me laying it down soft then the wind doing it hard!
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SYNSTR
Posted 2011-04-06 9:51 AM (#83322 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
Travelin' Man,
It must be the attach angle of mounting then, because I look @ the canoe paddle with a big pad that comes out from under a HONDA 1800 or a STAR and it's @ a lower angle and puts just a skosh more tilt into those bikes and the 1800 is every bit as heavy (or bulky) as a VV
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aaronrkelly
Posted 2011-04-06 6:05 PM (#83368 - in reply to #83318)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Tourer

Posts: 395
Moravia, IA
Fastfred - 2011-04-06 8:37 AM

Yesterday we had high winds here in Ma. I just laid the bike on the tipovers and left it there. I figured better me laying it down soft then the wind doing it hard!


Thats a damn good idea.....I would have never thought of that, thanks.

With it already over on the tipovers its going to be lower to the ground, heavier and unbalanced - Im sure nothing short of a tornado would flip it on over.

Edited by aaronrkelly 2011-04-06 6:06 PM
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-04-06 11:56 PM (#83399 - in reply to #83213)
Subject: Re: easy off the kick


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Great idea. I have left mine parked in the wind on occasion, worried that I'd come back and find it on its side. No need to worry if it's already there.
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