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radioteacher
Posted 2011-04-28 4:55 PM (#85080)
Subject: Mentoring a New Rider


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
One of my dearest friends has been inquiring about riding to work for the last three years. Back in 2008 when gas prices climbed he looked into different scooters but then gas prices fell again.

Here we are in 2011 and gas is high again. I tried my best to get him to buy a small motorcycle like a Honda Rebel or Honda Spirit 750. But he really likes the price and efficiency of the scooters.

My friend, JMc is a bicycle rider but lives too far from work to ride his bike. It is too hot in the summer to ride to work anyway plus the roads are not bicycle friendly between his home and work.

He found a local 2006 Yamaha Morphous 250 with 6200 miles on it listed on Craigslist and I told him that I would test ride it for him.

Test Ride
Ergonomics: Seat is very low?24/25 inches. Has a nice floorboard and very comfortable feet forward position for my height.

Looks: If I did not ride a Vision I would say it looks weird.

Suspension: The front forks dive moderately on hard stops. The rear needs stiffer shocks for my weight. I can make the scooter bottom out on potholes.

Engine: Starts and runs like a Swiss watch.

Control: Like any scooter the power is lacking and delayed. You can use the rear brake and do Ride Like a Pro maneuvers on it. I could get it up to 62 mph and it was still accelerating. The 13 inch wheels were very stable at any speed.

Brakes: The front and rear disk brakes worked very well but I noticed that the DOT4 fluid was way too dark and required replacement.

Conclusion: The Morphous needs a full service completed on it with an oil change, fork fluid check and a replacement of the brake fluid. Other than that it is good to go unless the service people find something else.

I called and got a price from the Yamaha/Victory dealership (Kent Powersports) for the service and a Texas inspection sticker. I told JMc to add in the cost of a helmet, jacket, safety glasses, gloves and boots. Plus, he must take the MSF BRC and get a motorcycle license endorsement.

Then my friend had a decision to make. We talked quite a bit about riding and like I told him "It is up to you. I cannot make the decision for you. The bike will work for you if you want it."

Well he bought it and the service guy did not find any other issues. He bought an armored Tourmaster Mesh Jacket with a zip out liner for rain and another for cold. Then he got a good pair of gloves and borrowed a helmet from me.

Below is a picture taken before we left for lunch for the first time. Today was our second time for a lunch run (four bikes) and he is doing very well. He borrowed my copy of Ride Like a Pro and is practicing...and it shows.

Next week he will be off his bike for about six to eight weeks due to scheduled medical maintenance. After that he will take the BRC and get the "M" on his license.

Ride Safe!

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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-04-28 5:08 PM (#85081 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
A starter Vision
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SYNSTR
Posted 2011-04-28 6:19 PM (#85087 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
I worked with a guy a few years ago who rode a Bergman 650 scooter. On his vacation one year he rode it from Everett to visit his brother and sisters in San Diego, said he had zero issues and the thing just hauled on I-5 and had no issues keeping up with the Kahleefornians on the freeways.
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azllerbob
Posted 2011-04-28 8:17 PM (#85095 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: RE: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 102
Parkersburg WV
As far as scooters go I always liked the Morphus. I did feel really low to the ground on it though and wondered about visability to other cars. The lighting kinda reminds me of Cadillac. Its interesting to see it beside the Vision and see how simular the headlights look. I have also compared my Vision lighting to Cadillac. I know my Vision rides like a Cadillac !!!

Sounds like your taking good care of your buddy. He should be greatful.

Bob Scott
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azllerbob
Posted 2011-04-28 8:20 PM (#85096 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: RE: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 102
Parkersburg WV
After looking @ the pic again I see the rider height is about the same as the other 2 riders. Sure doesn't give me that impression when sitting on it.

Bob Scott
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-04-28 8:51 PM (#85099 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
...I never fully understood why some people compare the Vision to a scooter, now I understand. Also, the Harley guy wants to make sure he's off to himself...
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roundtwig
Posted 2011-04-28 9:17 PM (#85102 - in reply to #85081)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 233
flagstaff, AZ
Trekwolf164 - 2011-04-28 4:08 PM

A starter Vision


Thats about right. The scooter looks like a younger vision, not quite grown up. I like it!

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Boots
Posted 2011-04-28 9:41 PM (#85103 - in reply to #85099)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Tourer

Posts: 599
New Mexico
I don't like it, but to each his own...
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DrDecay
Posted 2011-04-28 10:48 PM (#85115 - in reply to #85095)
Subject: RE: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 277
Apopka, FL
Bob, you are WRONG! Our Visions ride like a Lincoln!
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BillyJoe
Posted 2011-04-29 6:31 AM (#85126 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 133
, AR United States
Sounds like a great first bike, I still have my Honda Helix.
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wilsondude
Posted 2011-04-29 10:05 AM (#85137 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 199
Salt Lake City
All three riders are smiling - what they happen to be sitting on is secondary.
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wroman
Posted 2011-04-29 10:52 AM (#85140 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Tourer

Posts: 432
Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium
A woman at work just got a Sportster Low and has been talking to me about her adventures riding. She talked about her husband having a softail and how he does absolutely no work on it himself. Needed a new battery and he couldn't figure out how to remove the seat. He has owned the bike 4 years. I think it is cute they both want to ride but to be honest this level of involvement I cannot understand. I am too old and been riding too long to wrap my mind around it.
Sorry for the rant. Hope your friend with the scooter enjoys himself. I am not ragging on owning a scooter, I think Vespa's are neat but I can't justify owning one where I live.
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-04-29 11:24 AM (#85143 - in reply to #85140)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
I can see moving up from the Mini Vision to the real deal but the reverse is impossible
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radioteacher
Posted 2011-04-29 1:13 PM (#85147 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
SYNSTR,

The Bergman 650 is a very serious ride. I rode with one a while back and it was always riding tight with the group.

azllerbob,

It is weird riding on it because the front of the bike is so low that the wind hits my belly. It has foot to waist wind protection but nothing else.

Boots and Trekwolf164,

I would not own one.

All,

He likes it so far. He rode it to work today. The Morphous owner recently replaced his own Brake Pads on his Toyoda car and can work on mechanical stuff.

Since he was buying it used, he and I both felt that the first service of the used scooter should be done by a professional mechanic.

I forgot to mention that on the Ride to lunch the other day, the guy on the Harley in the picture above and I split the cost of a Guardian Bell for JMc and his Morphous. That is the fourth bell we have bought in the last seven days for coworkers that ride.

http://www.guardianbell.com

The Legend of the Guardian Bell
http://www.helmetsetc.com/legend-bell.asp

Ride Safe!

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a99miata
Posted 2011-04-29 1:25 PM (#85148 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
feed and water it regular and it should grow to be a nice strong Vision someday.
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a99miata
Posted 2011-04-29 1:29 PM (#85149 - in reply to #85080)
Subject: Re: Mentoring a New Rider


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
on a serious note...one of the guys at church rides a burgman. It has close 40K on it and he has had no problems. Other than a tires and oil he is happy with it. He rides it to Ashville area 2x a year for family matters. He has sat radio, after market cruise control and different windshield.
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