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ksievers
Posted 2013-09-12 8:29 AM (#144402 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 29
Norman, OK
does anyone know FOR SURE about the timing/heat question? mostly just curious.. as long as the bike runs well and is not knocking I'm good to go either way.. but I would like to know.
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-09-12 10:51 AM (#144405 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois

When you advance the timing it fires the spark sooner. (advance, get it?)

It will not affect pre-ignition knock since that is a result of combustion starting pre-ignition, before the spark. It is how a diesel engine works where compression of the fuel mix alone causes ignition and it can happen if your octane rating is so low that the mix ignites before it should, without benefit of a spark.

Timing will affect ping which results from firing the spark too early compared to the piston position. That is the threat of this timing wheel. It could cause the spark to happen too early in the cycle and give you a ping. Retarding timing, the way the EPA retards would have you do, can mean that the flame front has not finished before an exhaust valve opens.

Have a look at the glowing exhaust on a retarded timing engine to verify that things are still burning in the exhaust. No internal engine part should ever glow red, that happens right before the metal becomes so soft that it distorts. You may see steel glow red a bit at 1050 F and at 1100F it will start becoming soft and will glow a bright red. If you apply much pressure to the area at 1100F it will start to distort the metal.



Edited by Oldman47 2013-09-12 10:57 AM
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Turk
Posted 2013-09-12 12:42 PM (#144417 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
Why were my three recently made posts removed?

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okie vision
Posted 2013-09-12 1:45 PM (#144421 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 752
Broken Arrow, OK
David,
Your 3 posts are in the thread titled "auto volume control"
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Turk
Posted 2013-09-12 1:54 PM (#144422 - in reply to #144421)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
Thanks. Not sure how that happened. lol
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-09-12 2:40 PM (#144424 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
Where is that post? I don't see it here in the Q&A section OV.
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jazzbiker
Posted 2013-09-12 3:34 PM (#144427 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 5
Danny from Lloyds said if anthing will run cooler. Sounds like heat could be a problem if it's timing is way off either way. I plan on following the Oldman's advice and advancing 3 degrees.
Thanks for the feedback
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-09-12 7:12 PM (#144434 - in reply to #144417)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Visionary

Posts: 4278

Turk - 2013-09-12 12:42 PM Why were my three recently made posts removed?

TURK

It was good information Over there on the radio post 

 

 

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wseemann
Posted 2013-09-14 3:02 PM (#144485 - in reply to #144151)
Subject: Re: ATS benefits for Vision?


Cruiser

Posts: 215
Boydsville, AR United States
Had mine done in Sturgis, when I had them dial in the fuel controller on the dyno. Now putting out 117 HP, and it runs smooth as silk now. Thanks Kevin, Lloyd, and KMC! Low RPM throttle response is better, and low RMPs are wayyyyy smother.
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