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Brighton, TN | It is under the extended warranty. I have already trailered the bike down to the shop. The reason being because it wouldn't start when cold. Showed them and it wouldn't start when I had it on the trailer. Like you they kept in in their shop and every morning for over a week it would start. So, they told me to come get it. They tell me they will fix it, if they can get it to act up. Which I believe, but I don't know how long they would have to keep it before it would act up, again! So, maybe next winter I can go pick it up when it won't crank again, but it would have to be really cold in their shop. Who knows!
So, the deductible now is $50, the part is $70 for the IAC Valve. Then I would have to wait for the bike to continually act up. So, far I have gotten the Victory Carbon Deposit cleaner and ran that through with no luck. Now, I have read up a little more and seen how these little gizmos work. Went and bought a $5 can of carburetor cleaner and will clean out this valve and see what that holds for me. |
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| I may be way off base here guys because I have not looked at the wiring and fuel system diagrams BUT... It seems to me that if the plugs are carbon fouled and the bike has a close loop system, this bike would act much like the 1980 early emission car. So if the plugs are fouled so are the O2 sensors. Have any of you experiencing this problem had a look to see if this is the case? Just a thought. |
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Fargo, ND | I'm wondering is a 'Dash' of Seafoam in each tankful would cure the problem? |
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Brighton, TN | Teach, thanks for the idea. I'm looking at the IAC and will clean it and see what happens first. mY plugs were not all that fouled when I changed them. Changed them just cause it was the next cheapest thing, that could possibly affect it.
Flatsix, another good idea. But unfortunately, that would be the same as the carbon deposit cleaner that I ran through the tank. I did an 800 mile trip in one day and used an entire bottle of the Victory cleaner. No change, also, the Seafoam or the Victory laced Gold liquid does not go through the IAC, so it wouldn't clean it. So I have to pull a few small pieces only that I can see and clean it. Hopefully it is a small minute problem, which is easily fixed. |
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| Brian I hope it is something that simple. Keep us posted on what you find. |
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Brighton, TN | Okay! Here's the latest update!
Me and my five dollar can of Carburetor cleaner, a few tools, and a few minutes of free time, pulled up a chair to my lovely BSP. This free time only came after putting my horses back in the pasture after they wandered around the neighborhood for a few hours.
To get to the IAC valve, you have to pull the cheese wedge on the right hand side. Behind that is the bracket for the cheese wedge and sitting on the inside of the that bracket is the IAC. Remove the four bolts for the bracket, and then I couldn't figure out how to remove the vacuum lines with the bracket still bolted to the IAC. Now remove the IAC, two bolts with a lot of Loctite on them, very tough to turn. Once the bracket is free, now you have just the IAC hanging there with the air lines going to it. I was unable to pull the lines off. What I though was just a slip on tube is on good and tight.
Now, what to do! I decided to take out the IAC, remove the three screws and pull it out. Looking inside the IAC housing, it is pretty and clean. The housing is a piece of aluminum, the inside is shiny and smooth. They can make the inside of that piece almost chrome like, yet my wheels are cast. Sometimes you gotta wonder. Turn the key on and the IAC pulls the plunger in close to the motor. Then crank the engine and the plunger starts moving trying get the idle right. I can shut off more air to the IAC housing and the IAC will extend or retract as needed. It works! Seems like the mechanism is a little notchy in its travel, but not a lot. I go ahead and take the carburetor cleaner and clean the end of the plunger and the shaft that the plunger is riding on to see if it will help it. After spraying the plunger and shaft, it seems to travel a little smoother. But nothing dramatic to seem to make a difference.
While the IAC is out I go ahead and spray into the IAC housing and into the area of the air lines, but no gunk or black gooey-ness comes out. My fingers are clean at this point! When you turn the key off, after about 15 seconds, the IAC will cycle, by retracting fully and then extending. In warm weather, when you turn the key on, the IAC retracts over 3/4.
So to no avail, I put it all back together with a little bit of blue loctite and tightened it all down. Did a couple of test starts before I started working on the bike and of course the bike starts right up. Then after working on it, I started the bike and no issues. So unknown if this fixes it. It doesn't seem to idle any different. Still sounds the same.
Any other ideas? |
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| Brian have you had a chance to inspect the sensors yet? I think we are going to run out of cold weather before you get it sorted out my friend, lol. Make sure your dealers mechanic makes a memo that they are aware of the problem but unable to determine the cause due to climate change. Then you'll still be covered when it cools down in the fall and can get it in under warranty. |
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L.I., N.Y. | To update Victory has request the videos I made of my ride not starting in cold weather will keep you all informed of there findings. |
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Brighton, TN | I'm unsure how I made it back to this post, other than I was looking for Paint Codes. Go Figure!
So, since that timeframe of cleaning the IAC, (knock on wood) I haven't had any problems. Change the plugs every 15,000 and cranks up every time.
Haven't heard whether ole slowryder got his fixed or not! |
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Thanks for the update. I'm sure this will help others when they have the same issue. |
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New Bohemia, VA | doesn't look like slowryder has been back since Sept of 2010, at least here on the forum. |
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Fuel pump, ICV,Cold starts????
