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Iron Butt
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| Webhair - 2011-05-13 10:01 AM
On the front you can just slide the forks up into the triple trees a little. I think the max is about 3/4"
On the '11 and '12 you can barely get 1/4" before the cap nut hits the handlebars. Not worth the trouble.
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Visionary
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| I do recommended a short kick stand. You will find to many place the bike stands to straight up and down and will tip over on you.
Like I said I did the front and the rear and have not had any issue in corning going down the road. I have not bottomed out and have 30 psi in the shock when its just me and I'm 225. I do think the vision sits way to high in front and that makes for wiggling in my opinion. Of coarse the tire being at 40 psi doesn't help moving the bike around in the wind.
Here is a side note if you lower the bike and then go to a car tire get the 185 it will help keep you low.
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | marcparnes - 2011-08-16 12:21 PM
Webhair - 2011-05-13 10:01 AM
On the front you can just slide the forks up into the triple trees a little. I think the max is about 3/4"
On the '11 and '12 you can barely get 1/4" before the cap nut hits the handlebars. Not worth the trouble.
Marc
True - I did not realize the cheaper bars on the newer models where that much different until I lowered a friends 11' a couple of weeks ago.
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Cruiser
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Vancouver, B.C. & La Quinta, CA | Good AM! My experience with my my Vision was; lowered 2" front and back (give or take a smidge) and used the Arlen Ness lowering kit which takes a small amount of saddlebag space but leaves me with full suspension travel. I added a skid plate and keep the rear suspension at about 18 lbs. I weigh in at 230 lbs. The bike handles better than when high, but I must add, BIG speed bumps are to be taken with caution. The bike actually handles better with this set-up. I use stock Dunlaps for rubber and overall, am pleased with the mods. Inexpensive way to improve handling and overall looks of the Vision IMO. Cheers |
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Puddle Jumper
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East Tennessee | DAL - 2011-08-16 1:58 PM Good AM! My experience with my my Vision was; lowered 2" front and back (give or take a smidge) and used the Arlen Ness lowering kit which takes a small amount of saddlebag space but leaves me with full suspension travel. I added a skid plate and keep the rear suspension at about 18 lbs. I weigh in at 230 lbs. The bike handles better than when high, but I must add, BIG speed bumps are to be taken with caution. The bike actually handles better with this set-up. I use stock Dunlaps for rubber and overall, am pleased with the mods. Inexpensive way to improve handling and overall looks of the Vision IMO. Cheers What is included in the Ness lowering kit ? Where would you purchase the kit and at what cost ? Thanks |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | Any dealer can order them from Ness. Ness doesn't seem to want to sell them to the public. I have purchased them from Arizona Victory and Off-Road Express in Erie PA. I understand that HMD50 (on this site) is also carrying them. They are call Ness Bag Inserts. I believe they were around $170 or so.
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Cruiser
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| Guys be very careful doing this I had mine lowered by cycle dragon and when I hit a really bad under cut on a entrance to a bridge with my wife I put the top of my belt pulley and brake disc right through the bottom of my bags |
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Cruiser
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Vancouver, B.C. & La Quinta, CA | Yes, I would agree. Two up and fully loaded is not the ideal for any lowered bike. Best to stay stock if that is your thing. |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | bob5219 - 2011-08-17 9:58 AM
Guys be very careful doing this I had mine lowered by cycle dragon and when I hit a really bad under cut on a entrance to a bridge with my wife I put the top of my belt pulley and brake disc right through the bottom of my bags
Did they install the Ness bag inserts before this happened? How low did they lower it?
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | OK, I'll let my ignorance hang out. Why? I have read through the whole thread, the problems or lack of, the methods and results, but I didn't see anywhere the why. It doesn't handle worse, nor better. From 25 feet away you really can't perceive a difference in looks. The only thing I have read that added to the bike was the ability to bottom out.
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Cruiser
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SF Bay Area | smknal - 2011-05-12 12:43 PM
I am looking for input on a VV handling changes after installing the lowering clevis. Does lower help handling at low speed? Does it help stability at high speed? What is the downside, like getting in and out over entrances?
Looking for some input from folks who have put on some miles after lowering.
While I haven't lowered mine, I do have a little comment... I feel the bike handles fine at low and high speeds, what is your specific handling issue? Downside? If you ride like me, my problem with lowering the bike would be losing much needed ground clearance while cornering, The Vision has little latitude between when the floorboards drag and when the front tip-over drags... which will likely lift the front tire, causing the front end to push (read, crash). Of course, lowering the bike will also reduce the ground clearance, you may drag hard parts over speed bumps. One of the real negatives is that your side stand, unless modified, will stand your bike near verticle when parked, you will have to be more careful about selecting where you park.
I would do the mod if...
1) I was not a fast corner rider
2) I had to, in order to reach the ground with confidence.
3) It looked cool
4) High quality parts could be had (they can...)
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Visionary
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| <p><strong>Lower bike put more air in shock</strong> Handling is no different then before you still fly threw the twisty's you just might not lean over as far you did before but believe me me you still lean a lot. you go down the road the same and the wind doesn't seam to move you around as much. Parking lots are the same. You have lowered your center of gravity so you have be come more stable now.</p><p><strong>I have 30 psi in shock but after I first lowered it I had 40 psi. With two up and going on a trip maybe you will need 50 psi.</strong> You just have to play with it till you </p><p>find what you like. Yes keeping your eye open for pot holes really helps.<br /></p>
Edited by john frey 2011-08-18 1:33 PM
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Lowered vs handling
