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8-ball
Posted 2012-09-10 10:40 PM (#123410 - in reply to #123374)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Tourer

Posts: 457
Green Bay, WI United States
varyder - 2012-09-10 11:21 AM

As long as I like to sit in the saddle, that would not be a bad idea, if they came out with "in-ride refueling".
Just showed your Military background - God Bless, Thank You for your service and go for it Bother!!!!! I would love to be re-fueled at low altitude flight on my Vision (95-100 mph across NM) can you see the tail dropping down and waiting to connect to the gas tank (really bad angle of the dangle to pull this off with the current gas tank design). Me and Rollin could break new records if we had an aerial re-fuel station and a Piss sucker at the same time ;-) LOL VARYDER you are the best, Ride on..... and God Bless our Military.....known and un known

God Bless the USA and as always,,,,,,,



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robsxct
Posted 2012-09-11 12:33 AM (#123414 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 65
Halifax, NS
Sorry for taking up space on this site!!!!!!! seems some are short sited...

I was doing a google search when I came accross this Victory review post on a Harley web site.
I know most Harley riders are not happy with Victorys growing market share. And I found it very interesting to read about what they thought of Victory.
Thought I would share and get your impression of the post on the Harley site.
Its not about bashing any brands.
I really like the look of the Harleys. As a classic cruiser no one can touch the style.
I bought a Vic because I wanted an American made bike and I couldnt get the forward styling of the XCT out of my mind. Also I wanted reliability in my ride.

I did a lot of searching and it seems that reliability is not the factor with Harley. I believe Harley knows the cost of ownership and relies on the service revenue as a part of there business. They could resolve the issues with the twin cam but they would loose massive service opertunities....

Its no secret that a lot of jobs have left our shores. If we dont buy our own products and support MFG done at home then who will be working!!!!!

I drive a 2012 Ford Ranger - loaded FX4 off road pkg. This is my 4th Ranger and all of them have been reliable trucks. I have never spent any money on these besides oil and brakes.

Every ride on my XCT I have Harley riders waveing at me. Strange since this didnt happen when I was on my Japanese bike. For the most part at least in this area it seems if you ride a Victory you are a cut above the Japanese rider. Strange but true.....


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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 12:46 AM (#123415 - in reply to #123414)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

robsxct - 2012-09-10 10:33 PM Sorry for taking up space on this site!!!!!!! seems some are short sited... IIts no secret that a lot of jobs have left our shores. If we dont buy our own products and support MFG done at home then who will be working!!!!! I drive a 2012 Ford Ranger - loaded FX4 off road pkg. This is my 4th Ranger and all of them have been reliable trucks. I have never spent any money on these besides oil and brakes. Every ride on my XCT I have Harley riders waveing at me. Strange since this didnt happen when I was on my Japanese bike. For the most part at least in this area it seems if you ride a Victory you are a cut above the Japanese rider. Strange but true.....

Although you are Canadian - your words were 'Spoken like a true AMERICAN', Rob.

But BUY CANADIAN - I say !!!  Get a CAN-AM ... it's almost CANADIAN.

 Geeze - KNOCK OFF THE 'BUILT IN THE blah-blah-blah' - we all live in this ONE world.

 And buy what works the best.  VICTORY

 

 

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robsxct
Posted 2012-09-11 1:07 AM (#123416 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 65
Halifax, NS
Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler

Canada builds very little
We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does...........
Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way
You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA

We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way...

Canadians build / make very little

So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN...
I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing

Rob
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SYNSTR
Posted 2012-09-11 10:50 AM (#123427 - in reply to #123416)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM

Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler

Canada builds very little
We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does...........
Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way
You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA

We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way...

Canadians build / make very little

So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN...
I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing

Rob


You sell C eh N eh D eh short my friend. Except for school busses and a few small manufacturers of goofy looking 15 seat city transit busses, most large transit sytem busses are built in Canada, as are 90+% of the big highway coaches (Greyhound, etc.) are built in the GWN. I about fell off my chair when a huge manufactured stink was made over the coaches purchased by the Secret Service for the POTUS, particularly by one befuddled old geezer Senator from the land of sunshine concerning 'foreign made busses', Wait! didn't HE vote for NAFTA? and his campaign bus was built by the vey same Canadian coach manufacturer (oh, nevermind). BOMBARDIER is the worlds largest manufacturer of peope movers from busses to rail cars and train locomotives used around the world, and the majority of U.S. vans and pickups bear a label stating 'Hecho en CANADA' made in factories in Ontario and Windsor.
The SPIDER took some getting used to just like VISIONS did, my immediate thoughts when seeing my first one was 'clever way to sell basically a sled in another wrapper' and wondered if a kit would be offered to change one from bike to snow machine as the weather changed.

And, as I understand it, y'all are pretty clever marketers, we build the Keystone, you pump the liquid sandpaper (and the leaks in the pipeline) to us, we refine it, you already have it sold elsewhere in the world, and we get stuck with the cleanup and disposal of the left over wastes-THAT'S MARKETING!

Edited by SYNSTR 2012-09-11 10:56 AM
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BrandonM7
Posted 2012-09-11 10:51 AM (#123428 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 178
LaGrange, GA
The only bit that annoys me (and makes me laugh) is this -- "Plus, with the price that some of these Victorys get up to, why not go with a Big Dog, or a good Harley?" -- I love that attitude. They all have it, even my old man (although he tries not to.) He said it to me once, though -- "...but if you're gonna spend that much, why not go ahead and get the Harley?" They just instinctively think everything else is settling for something. Doesn't even enter their mind that you might have wanted it, even if it's a whole different class of bike that HD doesn't make. It's awesome.
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SYNSTR
Posted 2012-09-11 10:59 AM (#123429 - in reply to #123428)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
BrandonM7 - 2012-09-11 8:51 AM

The only bit that annoys me (and makes me laugh) is this -- "Plus, with the price that some of these Victorys get up to, why not go with a Big Dog, or a good Harley?" -- I love that attitude. They all have it, even my old man (although he tries not to.) He said it to me once, though -- "...but if you're gonna spend that much, why not go ahead and get the Harley?" They just instinctively think everything else is settling for something. Doesn't even enter their mind that you might have wanted it, even if it's a whole different class of bike that HD doesn't make. It's awesome.


BIG DOG rolled over about 5 +years ago, I knew a guy who hauled them from Wicthita to showrooms all over, took him a while to find another secure hauling contract. And they were 30 minute bikes, ride one for 30 minutes and get your friends to help you get off it.
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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 11:33 AM (#123432 - in reply to #123416)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler Canada builds very little We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does........... Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way... Canadians build / make very little So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN... I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing Rob

I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA.

Sorry   

 

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Kelvininin
Posted 2012-09-11 12:11 PM (#123434 - in reply to #123414)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 188
robsxct - 2012-09-10 10:33 PM


I really like the look of the Harleys. As a classic cruiser no one can touch the style.




No one has too. If I wanted a classic bike, I would buy a real classic.
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Kelvininin
Posted 2012-09-11 12:21 PM (#123435 - in reply to #123432)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 188
donetracey - 2012-09-11 9:33 AM

robsxct - 2012-09-10 11:07 PM Can-Am doesnt build a 2 wheeler Canada builds very little We sell our resources to the USA they build the products that we buy. If they dont build them CHINA does........... Dont forget the Keystone pipe line to Texas - they can refine the oil and we WILL BUY IT BACK !!!!! Its the Canadian way You should know this first hand since most of the trees from BC end up in the USA We (Nova Scotia) sell gypsun to Main then by back the SHEET ROCK... Its the Canadian way... Canadians build / make very little So yes I suport the USA our biggest trading partner. I am proud to say my BIKE and my TRUCK are AMERICAN... I DO NOT believe dollar for dollar that Victory is better than some of the Japanese bikes. Victory is young and still learing/growing Rob

I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA.

Sorry???

?



The Ranger for US consumption was built in the Ford's St. Paul assembly plant, and maintained the rather high domestic index of better than 60% beating the average of all import makers fleet average domestic index for vehicles sold in the US.

Most Rangers built for global consumption where built closer to their local markets.

What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs.


So what where you saying? it doesn't matter what you buy or where its from? I beg to differ.


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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 12:37 PM (#123437 - in reply to #123435)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
Kelvininin - 2012-09-11 10:21 AM donetracey - 2012-09-11 9:33 AM

I hate to tell you this Rob, but about your 2012 Ford Ranger: The 2012 Ranger will be made in three different plants around the world: Argentina, South Africa and Thailand. But NOT in the USA.

The Ranger for US consumption was built in the Ford's St. Paul assembly plant, and maintained the rather high domestic index of better than 60% beating the average of all import makers fleet average domestic index for vehicles sold in the US. I beg to differ.

The last Ranger built was 2011 in the US.

See this article: http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/1050522_all-new-2012-ford-ranger-not-coming-to-the-u-s-heres-why

 

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Kelvininin
Posted 2012-09-11 12:50 PM (#123438 - in reply to #123437)
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Cruiser

Posts: 188
Again, the Ranger build for US Consumption was built in the US. The last Ranger built and sold in the US was a 2011. For 2012, the Ranger is no longer offered in the US.

Where is the confusion?
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jeffmack
Posted 2012-09-11 12:54 PM (#123439 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride.

Ride safe
Jmack out for good
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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 1:01 PM (#123440 - in reply to #123438)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

Kelvininin - 2012-09-11 10:50 AM Again, the Ranger build for US Consumption was built in the US. The last Ranger built and sold in the US was a 2011. For 2012, the Ranger is no longer offered in the US. Where is the confusion?

No confusion with me. It's just our Canuck pal Rob who is confused - believing that he is 'Buying U.S.' with his 2012 Ranger.

And forgets that many U.S. cars and trucks on the road in America were made in Ontario, Canada. And many of the parts on our Victory came from outside the U.S.A.

I believe in a 'World Economy' - and 'Buy The Best (you can afford)'. My bike is mostly American, my car is mostly Japanese, my Japanese wife's car is mostly German. So what ...

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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 1:05 PM (#123441 - in reply to #123439)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride. Ride safe Jmack out for good

aaawwwww, 'sniff'

 

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varyder
Posted 2012-09-11 1:19 PM (#123442 - in reply to #123441)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
donetracey - 2012-09-11 2:05 PM

jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride. Ride safe Jmack out for good

aaawwwww, 'sniff'

Don's been here for a long time, why are you having a problem with him now....?

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Cometman
Posted 2012-09-11 2:11 PM (#123445 - in reply to #123439)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Tourer

Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA
jeffmack - 2012-09-11 10:54 AM

Man this forum is really starting to blow. In the past filled with good info and help. Now their is more BS and assholes to sift through than watching a episode of "the view", I don't watch that show and won't be back on here. Gonna go get on my classic Norton and ride.

Ride safe
Jmack out for good


Imagine what this forum will be like when it starts snowing!
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robsxct
Posted 2012-09-11 10:01 PM (#123461 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 65
Halifax, NS
Damn I screwed up
My Ranger is a 2011 With a BIG STICKER that says made in Detroit.....

Thanks for the info Kelvininin
What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs.

It is hard to believe how many people dont understand what drives the economy and the spin offs it provides

I found this forum a little slow. I thought a good Harley thread would wake some people up. It seems it did but in a bad way.

Only ask questions about Victory must be the rule here

Ooooooooooooops

40 years on two wheels
Many Bikes over 20
Current Rides
06 Suzuki 400 Eiger 4 wheeler
2012 Yamaha WR250R
2013 XCT
2011 Ford Ranger FX4
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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-11 11:09 PM (#123466 - in reply to #123461)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

robsxct - 2012-09-11 8:01 PM Damn I screwed up My Ranger is a 2011 With a BIG STICKER that says made in Detroit..... Thanks for the info Kelvininin What you drive does drive the economy. Here in the US. The domestic are responsible for more than 9 million direct and indirect jobs, where all import makers combined are responsible for less than a million direct jobs. It is hard to believe how many people dont understand what drives the economy and the spin offs it provides I found this forum a little slow. I thought a good Harley thread would wake some people up. It seems it did but in a bad way. Only ask questions about Victory must be the rule here Ooooooooooooops 40 years on two wheels Many Bikes over 20 Current Rides 06 Suzuki 400 Eiger 4 wheeler 2012 Yamaha WR250R 2013 XCT 2011 Ford Ranger FX4

Rob, Rob, Rob

I HATE to have to be the one to tell you this - but HALIFAX, NS is in CANADA.

NOT "Here in the US"

Please appologize to you school teachers and return to grade 2 immediately.

Thanks - from all Canadians.

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robsxct
Posted 2012-09-13 7:47 PM (#123573 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 65
Halifax, NS
<p>Don What you dont know is that when the US economy TANKS so does ours...........Thats what happends when the USA is your BIGGEST trading partner.. Thats why our Priminister is looking for other trading partners... All my life the US economy would hickup and the Canadian econmy would shit the bed. This time - for the FIRST time our economy is doing fairly good compared to the USA. Our teachers do a fair job teaching wold economics its yours that need to look beyond your Province !!!!!!!! </p>

Edited by robsxct 2012-09-13 7:49 PM
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walmarty
Posted 2012-09-14 4:06 PM (#123613 - in reply to #123331)
Subject: RE: From a Harley Forum


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
coweta ok
Engine looks like a metric bike? Works for me, riding kawasaki nomads for 11 years if this Vision is as good a motorcycle (which it is indicating it is and then some,)as my kawasaki, GREAT, best bike I've ever owned (including h-d) Vision handles way better and power is flawless, as indicated last week as my Vision ran easily to 110 in 5th not even full throttle going past the ultra-toad classic. I think my vision is gonna be a keeper :-) I also like my plastic, no chance of rust!
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loren2
Posted 2012-09-28 10:22 PM (#124422 - in reply to #123396)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Cruiser

Posts: 166
Bullhead City, AZ
If I wanted something my grandfather rode I could buy a HD.
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donetracey
Posted 2012-09-29 1:09 AM (#124427 - in reply to #123573)
Subject: Re: From a Harley Forum


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
robsxct - 2012-09-13 5:47 PM

Don What you dont know is that when the US economy TANKS so does ours...........Thats what happends when the USA is your BIGGEST trading partner.. Thats why our Priminister is looking for other trading partners... All my life the US economy would hickup and the Canadian econmy would shit the bed. This time - for the FIRST time our economy is doing fairly good compared to the USA. Our teachers do a fair job teaching wold economics its yours that need to look beyond your Province !!!!!!!!

Rob - you have NO idea what I 'know' - I am a consultant who still works (couple of days a week for $4,000) - but collects pension from both Canada and USA.

My firm that I consult for was just bought out by the Chinese - and they plan to quadruple our sales within 3 years. They 'purchased' our knowledge - not our assets. Grow up - this is a new world - bigger than Canada and USA.

And I never owned and American bike until 2008. I ALWAYS laughed at HD's for the OLD pieces of shit that they STILL are. But VICTORY changed that - because they are functional, fast, comfortable and GREAT to look at - first bike from ANYONE that looked like it was made for the 21st Century. And I don't care WHERE it it made - because I am a Human from The Planet Earth.

As are all of you ...

 

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